BA Pilot's sex discrimination case. (Update: Now includes Tribunal's judgement)
This person is doing a huge injustice to many professional female pilots I have meet, and flown with.
Having passed BA's tricky verbal reasoning tests, did she not understand the contract she signed?
Did she not know or research the sort of rosters a pilot flies?
And, did she know how far LHR is from Dorset?
If the huge desire [which of course is totally natural] to be with her child is so great, why not ask/negotiate for a couple of years unpaid leave to be totally devoted to the bonding process?
It seems to me that she's milking the system big time.... Well you're really doing nothing for your flying sisters honey.
Having passed BA's tricky verbal reasoning tests, did she not understand the contract she signed?
Did she not know or research the sort of rosters a pilot flies?
And, did she know how far LHR is from Dorset?
If the huge desire [which of course is totally natural] to be with her child is so great, why not ask/negotiate for a couple of years unpaid leave to be totally devoted to the bonding process?
It seems to me that she's milking the system big time.... Well you're really doing nothing for your flying sisters honey.
I hope and trust that BALPA will put as much effort into fighting the case of ALL my Companys pilots who have just rejected a pay offer due to the perceived attempt of said Company to erode our terms and conditions.
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As I alluded to in a previous post, this woman was always destined to win this case. As indeed was 'Stella' who successfully sued McDonalds for providing coffee that was too hot that burnt her when she spilt it down herself. Then there was the chap who stole the car from a family's driveway in the States, drove like a maniac during the subsequent police chase, before being injured after he lost control when the brakes failed. Needless to say he successfully sued the family who 'provided' the car because it was unsafe to drive!
This 'victory' is the same deal. There are new suckers born every day - and most of them seem to have worked their way into our judicial system. I was so near to rejoining BALPA and have now decided firmly against it after I discovered that they paid for the case. This woman, who is I understand pregnant again, is a rip-off merchant. There are so many quality women out there who would just love to have her job - the difference is they would actually do it. This is almost a better deal than being on the dole - you get paid a fortune for staying at home having babies.
Sadly, by way of a contrast, the brave young men and women from both the United States and the UK who have come home from Iraq with hands, feet, legs etc missing and their hopes and dreams destroyed will not be quite so fortunate. A 'grateful' nation will hand out a few platitudes and possibly even a few bucks a week. Now had they somehow managed to get pregnant, that would have course been a completely different matter - it would only have been proper to ensure that none of their rights were voilated in any way!
BALPA have managed to argue that black is white and won - well they won't be doing it in the future with my money.
This 'victory' is the same deal. There are new suckers born every day - and most of them seem to have worked their way into our judicial system. I was so near to rejoining BALPA and have now decided firmly against it after I discovered that they paid for the case. This woman, who is I understand pregnant again, is a rip-off merchant. There are so many quality women out there who would just love to have her job - the difference is they would actually do it. This is almost a better deal than being on the dole - you get paid a fortune for staying at home having babies.
Sadly, by way of a contrast, the brave young men and women from both the United States and the UK who have come home from Iraq with hands, feet, legs etc missing and their hopes and dreams destroyed will not be quite so fortunate. A 'grateful' nation will hand out a few platitudes and possibly even a few bucks a week. Now had they somehow managed to get pregnant, that would have course been a completely different matter - it would only have been proper to ensure that none of their rights were voilated in any way!
BALPA have managed to argue that black is white and won - well they won't be doing it in the future with my money.
NSF, I respectfully suggest you check the "urban legends" page before you post about McDonalds and suchlike.
The McDonalds suit was not frivolous, they supplied coffee at 170 degrees, despite at least 150 previous incidents and the lady concerned had to have extensive skin grafts.
As for the car theft story, I suspect that is an urban legend as well.
The McDonalds suit was not frivolous, they supplied coffee at 170 degrees, despite at least 150 previous incidents and the lady concerned had to have extensive skin grafts.
As for the car theft story, I suspect that is an urban legend as well.
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This was presumably a contractual matter.(sorry folks, I've not read all the posts.) If B.A. rules state an hours restriction, before part time working is allowed'then surely no case? The fact that this involves a "lady" pilot is surely irrelevent
The fact that this case has (so far) worked to the pilot's advantage,due to the sex discrimination card,can only make life harder for the already few women who can put up with the mostly military based B******T that runs through this business.
At the moment,though,as regards contracts of employment,Civil aviation is about as equal opportunity as it gets.
How much longer will that last if the Ladies take advantage?
And why the hell should I take up the financial and rostering slack?
Dear old BALPA may well have done themselves a disservice in supporting this.
The fact that this case has (so far) worked to the pilot's advantage,due to the sex discrimination card,can only make life harder for the already few women who can put up with the mostly military based B******T that runs through this business.
At the moment,though,as regards contracts of employment,Civil aviation is about as equal opportunity as it gets.
How much longer will that last if the Ladies take advantage?
And why the hell should I take up the financial and rostering slack?
Dear old BALPA may well have done themselves a disservice in supporting this.
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Well said most of you! 
Unfortunatly when I posted my views on this topic on a well known airline union's forum I was the subject of a lot of abuse by people who seem to think that "her" suing BA was in some way a good thing...
I'm looking forward to news of my application to do 50% on the grounds that my cat has had kittens.
Unfortunatly when I posted my views on this topic on a well known airline union's forum I was the subject of a lot of abuse by people who seem to think that "her" suing BA was in some way a good thing...
I'm looking forward to news of my application to do 50% on the grounds that my cat has had kittens.
Well don't get all serious on me.
My Uncle's brother's son's neighbour once knew somone who had a friend/in law who's hamster had twins....... And Shyte, I'm worried about them, so think I'm entitled to have a year off on double pay! So there!!
Answers on a post card please.
PS. I'm considering if it's worth paying BALPA subs. [serious]
PPS. Why is this forum open to all and sundry? I thought it was a professional pilots forum not a site open to hacks from 2 bit tabloids that can't make up their own wild stories. [not so serious].
My Uncle's brother's son's neighbour once knew somone who had a friend/in law who's hamster had twins....... And Shyte, I'm worried about them, so think I'm entitled to have a year off on double pay! So there!!
Answers on a post card please.
PS. I'm considering if it's worth paying BALPA subs. [serious]
PPS. Why is this forum open to all and sundry? I thought it was a professional pilots forum not a site open to hacks from 2 bit tabloids that can't make up their own wild stories. [not so serious].
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As a wannabee looking to join the hallowed ranks etc. I am now less likely to join BALPA than I was yesterday.
I think it is telling that the (sadly very few) female responses there have been here have mainly been to air concerns about how much damage this case has done to their future employment prospects.
I think it is telling that the (sadly very few) female responses there have been here have mainly been to air concerns about how much damage this case has done to their future employment prospects.
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Jessica,
As far as I am concerned, wishing to spend time with your daughter and see her growing up is perfectably understandable. Indeed, with society today producing so many affluent, emotionless 'mothers' who are more than happy to devolve their duty of care and love to some child-minder, in order to chase the green stuff and the next promotion, I think your determination to see Beth should be applauded.
I would like my opinion above to hold true in all situations, but sadly, Jessica, with your one I cannot. This is because whenever I am paying a lot of money to fly on a BA Airbus that you are operating, I expect you to have acquired the minimum amount of experience that those people, whose field of expertise is FLIGHT SAFETY, have decided is reasonable for safe operation. It is no different to BA insisting their F.O.s gain a large number of take-off and landings via the Short-Haul fleet prior to being accepted onto Long-Haul. When you were at Oxford, how many times were you told "YOU CAN'T BUY EXPERIENCE" ? - that is the crux of the matter.
Airlines have never wanted female pilots, purely because of the inevitability of childbirth and its associated costs, and created polices deliberately to discourage females choosing flying as a career. Thankfully discrimination laws are slowly but surely allowing women to have a career in the cockpit and raise children too, and rightly so. However, if women seek equality in the cockpit then they must accept equality in the cockpit - i.e. whatever the criteria for part-time working for a man, the same is to be accepted by a woman, no more, no less. I do feel sorry for your situation. Like most on this forum, I do not know the ins and outs of your case, only yourself and BA do, but if BA have raised the minimum hours after you applied, as much as this infuriated you, perhaps you should have personally decided to accept their ruling, knowing that whilst it may mean spending less time with Beth, it is better than being in a position where your captain is incapacitated and your lack of experience is proving to be your last regret. Of course, BA should have made this clear and unequivocal, it reflects very badly on them if they didn't.
One good thing to come out of all this exposure is that you have really brought the dilemma of female pilots and family firmly to the fore, where it can now be properly debated and rules and regulations drawn up. The effect of which will be that females will be informed way before entering flying of the practicalities and timescales involved and can, therefore, plan as best they can to ensure minimum encroachment on their private life. There can't be that many permutations possible, here are some obvious ones and are based on the assumption that a career break is a guaranteed right:
1. Younger female wants a baby, but doesn't have the required number of hours to go part-time......she either accepts the situation, as she was aware of it well in advance, or takes a career break (how this affects seniority is for others more informed than me to decide).
2. Older female wants a baby (time not on her side), but doesn't have the required number of hours to go part-time.......she takes a risk on delaying or takes a career break.
3. Female pilot not having the required hours becomes pregnant.......a career break is her only choice.
I'm sure there are other permutations which the airlines will have to cater for.
I imagine there can't be a greater stressor than wanting a family and being told you can't. I hope I haven't come across as an Orwellian activist, because I am a big believer in equal rights and family values, but by choosing to become a professional pilot you are expected to put the safety of your passengers before all other factors.
In the long run I have no doubt that raising this action will aid women, for they will be more informed and able to plan (as best they can), but I can't help feeling that, in the short run, you have done a great disservice to female wannabees, as you have given the cost-conscious airlines more reason not to take on your kind, and that you may not be very popular among your peers, which is irony personified. For sure, there will be much drinking to your health by the male wannabee community, I know I'm going to.
This was all about safety, not discrimination.
Congratulations on your good news! I'm sure that with Beth and her sibling running about soon, you'll realise flying an Airbus can't compare with raising a family, neither in stress or pleasure. With your determination for this to happen I'm sure you'll be a wonderful mother to both of them.
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As far as I am concerned, wishing to spend time with your daughter and see her growing up is perfectably understandable. Indeed, with society today producing so many affluent, emotionless 'mothers' who are more than happy to devolve their duty of care and love to some child-minder, in order to chase the green stuff and the next promotion, I think your determination to see Beth should be applauded.
I would like my opinion above to hold true in all situations, but sadly, Jessica, with your one I cannot. This is because whenever I am paying a lot of money to fly on a BA Airbus that you are operating, I expect you to have acquired the minimum amount of experience that those people, whose field of expertise is FLIGHT SAFETY, have decided is reasonable for safe operation. It is no different to BA insisting their F.O.s gain a large number of take-off and landings via the Short-Haul fleet prior to being accepted onto Long-Haul. When you were at Oxford, how many times were you told "YOU CAN'T BUY EXPERIENCE" ? - that is the crux of the matter.
Airlines have never wanted female pilots, purely because of the inevitability of childbirth and its associated costs, and created polices deliberately to discourage females choosing flying as a career. Thankfully discrimination laws are slowly but surely allowing women to have a career in the cockpit and raise children too, and rightly so. However, if women seek equality in the cockpit then they must accept equality in the cockpit - i.e. whatever the criteria for part-time working for a man, the same is to be accepted by a woman, no more, no less. I do feel sorry for your situation. Like most on this forum, I do not know the ins and outs of your case, only yourself and BA do, but if BA have raised the minimum hours after you applied, as much as this infuriated you, perhaps you should have personally decided to accept their ruling, knowing that whilst it may mean spending less time with Beth, it is better than being in a position where your captain is incapacitated and your lack of experience is proving to be your last regret. Of course, BA should have made this clear and unequivocal, it reflects very badly on them if they didn't.
One good thing to come out of all this exposure is that you have really brought the dilemma of female pilots and family firmly to the fore, where it can now be properly debated and rules and regulations drawn up. The effect of which will be that females will be informed way before entering flying of the practicalities and timescales involved and can, therefore, plan as best they can to ensure minimum encroachment on their private life. There can't be that many permutations possible, here are some obvious ones and are based on the assumption that a career break is a guaranteed right:
1. Younger female wants a baby, but doesn't have the required number of hours to go part-time......she either accepts the situation, as she was aware of it well in advance, or takes a career break (how this affects seniority is for others more informed than me to decide).
2. Older female wants a baby (time not on her side), but doesn't have the required number of hours to go part-time.......she takes a risk on delaying or takes a career break.
3. Female pilot not having the required hours becomes pregnant.......a career break is her only choice.
I'm sure there are other permutations which the airlines will have to cater for.
I imagine there can't be a greater stressor than wanting a family and being told you can't. I hope I haven't come across as an Orwellian activist, because I am a big believer in equal rights and family values, but by choosing to become a professional pilot you are expected to put the safety of your passengers before all other factors.
In the long run I have no doubt that raising this action will aid women, for they will be more informed and able to plan (as best they can), but I can't help feeling that, in the short run, you have done a great disservice to female wannabees, as you have given the cost-conscious airlines more reason not to take on your kind, and that you may not be very popular among your peers, which is irony personified. For sure, there will be much drinking to your health by the male wannabee community, I know I'm going to.
This was all about safety, not discrimination.
Congratulations on your good news! I'm sure that with Beth and her sibling running about soon, you'll realise flying an Airbus can't compare with raising a family, neither in stress or pleasure. With your determination for this to happen I'm sure you'll be a wonderful mother to both of them.
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Cobblers. A rip off, just means that our female contemporaries will find it harder to gain employment anywhere reasonable. It's sooo easy to fail people on application early in the process with no possible recourse to 'discrimination' legislation. Boo to the rip off girl I say.
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The hour vs safety issue is a complete red herring. Even as a part time First Officer with BA Jessica will probably fly more hours and sectors than a contemporary flying a B757 with DHL. Most of us take holidays and do not fly for a week or two. Half an hour in the books going through recall drills and profiles is enough to refresh your mind the night before flying.
Of all professions airline flying is the easiest one in which to accommodate part time working. Southwest have an arrangement, I believe, where you can structure the amount of work and pay according to personal requirements.
The issue we really should be worried about is not pilots who return to work feeling rested after a break but those who are worked to the maximum legal limit.
The BA A320 fleet at Heathrow is well known for being a tough call. Maximum possible flying hours, roster changes, long duty days, aircraft swaps, congested airspace, the Heathrow hassle factor and a demanding commute to work.
It's a highly stressful job. But companies like BA will always say that pilots work within the limits set by the CAA and, therefore, their working practices are safe.
They cannot now claim that the CAA's rules on currency are unsafe.
The real, and very well hidden, safety issue is cumulative pilot fatigue. I bet that is an issue Captain Douglas won't address.
Of all professions airline flying is the easiest one in which to accommodate part time working. Southwest have an arrangement, I believe, where you can structure the amount of work and pay according to personal requirements.
The issue we really should be worried about is not pilots who return to work feeling rested after a break but those who are worked to the maximum legal limit.
The BA A320 fleet at Heathrow is well known for being a tough call. Maximum possible flying hours, roster changes, long duty days, aircraft swaps, congested airspace, the Heathrow hassle factor and a demanding commute to work.
It's a highly stressful job. But companies like BA will always say that pilots work within the limits set by the CAA and, therefore, their working practices are safe.
They cannot now claim that the CAA's rules on currency are unsafe.
The real, and very well hidden, safety issue is cumulative pilot fatigue. I bet that is an issue Captain Douglas won't address.
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VC10Rib22 in his post has expressed the situation succintly and without any rancour.
When my wife saw the news item on the TV News she was extremely exasperated at yet another fellow female getting her priorities wrong. Surely, when she married, she should have realised that marriedl life usually produced a child either by design or accident.
Where are your priorities lady? Your child (children) will grow up to be better people if you provide them with love and attention when they need it. What next? It is a smokscreen to claim "discrimination" and any other fatuous reason. Will your husband be requesting time off as well so that he can be with the children when you are away earning yet more money.
This decision by the Court has provoked a lot more discussion than is appearing in these columns - not a lot of it in your favour Jessica.
When my wife saw the news item on the TV News she was extremely exasperated at yet another fellow female getting her priorities wrong. Surely, when she married, she should have realised that marriedl life usually produced a child either by design or accident.
Where are your priorities lady? Your child (children) will grow up to be better people if you provide them with love and attention when they need it. What next? It is a smokscreen to claim "discrimination" and any other fatuous reason. Will your husband be requesting time off as well so that he can be with the children when you are away earning yet more money.
This decision by the Court has provoked a lot more discussion than is appearing in these columns - not a lot of it in your favour Jessica.
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There appear to be quite a few neanderthals alive and well on this site....Is it unreasonable for a working mother to want to be continue in a job as well as raise children? Also, statements that women wont be recruited by big companies is also a fallacy. Large companies have massive Personnel/People/Human Resources departments stuffed with the politically correct do gooders that love to populate their companies with minorities/women. Small businesses probably will file the next female application in the circular file, but big companies can't get away with doing that.
Also, management pilots , some of whom are spectacularly good (and some are spectacularly bad) are exposed to the operation when not flying, unlike a part timer who probably has other things on their mind when they drive to work. Rewriting manuals and the other stuff that they fill their busy 1030-1530 days refreshes the pilot skills that we all use. Lets face it, nowadays, actual hands on flying is a small part of the job, and it is the SOP side of things and the feeling of being thrown in the deep end that the 50% part timer will struggle with.
In short , I believe this case has done the part timers case the world of good, especially with the new legislation coming into effect next year, where BA anticipate loads of 50 something pilots will want the opportunity to wind down for the last few yrs of their extended career. Hopefully, this will make it easier for them to achieve this.
We all received a letter from POD the other day saying how BA is going to struggle more than their competitors with the impending age legislation because other companies already retire their pilots later, or have a different way of paying their pilots.IMHO, absolute rubbish. Compared with the AF, IB, LH, US carriers we have been underpaid for years, who, with the exception of the Yanks, seem to be coping well with paying their pilots these "extra costs". What POD means, I suspect, is with the bloated cost base that is BA, they will find it difficult to find the extra money. If it forces BA mgmt to cut out the excesses that we see in other departments,in order to comply with its legal obligations, then perhaps JH's ruling may do us all a big favour in the long run. ( Even though I think she is taking the piss)
Also, management pilots , some of whom are spectacularly good (and some are spectacularly bad) are exposed to the operation when not flying, unlike a part timer who probably has other things on their mind when they drive to work. Rewriting manuals and the other stuff that they fill their busy 1030-1530 days refreshes the pilot skills that we all use. Lets face it, nowadays, actual hands on flying is a small part of the job, and it is the SOP side of things and the feeling of being thrown in the deep end that the 50% part timer will struggle with.
In short , I believe this case has done the part timers case the world of good, especially with the new legislation coming into effect next year, where BA anticipate loads of 50 something pilots will want the opportunity to wind down for the last few yrs of their extended career. Hopefully, this will make it easier for them to achieve this.
We all received a letter from POD the other day saying how BA is going to struggle more than their competitors with the impending age legislation because other companies already retire their pilots later, or have a different way of paying their pilots.IMHO, absolute rubbish. Compared with the AF, IB, LH, US carriers we have been underpaid for years, who, with the exception of the Yanks, seem to be coping well with paying their pilots these "extra costs". What POD means, I suspect, is with the bloated cost base that is BA, they will find it difficult to find the extra money. If it forces BA mgmt to cut out the excesses that we see in other departments,in order to comply with its legal obligations, then perhaps JH's ruling may do us all a big favour in the long run. ( Even though I think she is taking the piss)
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Forget not being able to find/afford a nanny.
Look at the whole issue from a different angle fro a moment.
When I went through Hamble (in the 60's) we were all male and apart from the odd medical problem gave BOAC/BEA/BA thirty five years service. A reasonable return on the training costs I would suggest.
Now there is the option if you are not successful in getting sponsorship with BA to pay for your own training. The figure would seem to be in the region of £80.000., without a guarantee of a job at the end.
That would not seem to be the end of the matter even if you succeed in finding a job there is most certainly the type rating to be paid for (B737 roughly £15000)
I wonder if Jessica would have been asking for 75%, let alone 50% working if she had that sort of debt to clear. Mind you she is married to a Captain, the odd £80,000 would help.
Perhaps BA will just ask future applicants to pay for their own training. Perhaps the like of Jessica will not make it through the first interview in future.
Look at the whole issue from a different angle fro a moment.
When I went through Hamble (in the 60's) we were all male and apart from the odd medical problem gave BOAC/BEA/BA thirty five years service. A reasonable return on the training costs I would suggest.
Now there is the option if you are not successful in getting sponsorship with BA to pay for your own training. The figure would seem to be in the region of £80.000., without a guarantee of a job at the end.
That would not seem to be the end of the matter even if you succeed in finding a job there is most certainly the type rating to be paid for (B737 roughly £15000)
I wonder if Jessica would have been asking for 75%, let alone 50% working if she had that sort of debt to clear. Mind you she is married to a Captain, the odd £80,000 would help.
Perhaps BA will just ask future applicants to pay for their own training. Perhaps the like of Jessica will not make it through the first interview in future.
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Being a mother is a career in itself - the hours are long, the pay is lousy, there's hardly any vacation time and the job is high-pressure and demanding. Although I understand that the perks can be pretty good too.
My point is that, while I have a demanding career of my own in a job I thoroughly enjoy, there are other jobs - astronaut, pilot, air traffic controller - which I'd also love to do.
But there's no way I could commit to two such jobs at the same time. Like anyone, I have to make a choice. If I want to be an astronaut, it would be ridiculous of me to believe I could remain committed to my current job. The two are simply incompatible owing to the resources and effort that each requires. Therefore I have to stop kidding myself and make a choice - one or the other - and live with my decision.
People seem to think that parenthood is somehow "different" and exempt from this rule. It's not - and all the saccharine PR comments
about how cute your daughter is, Ms Starmer, and how much she loves her mummy don't change a damn thing.
Parenthood is, in reality, just another form of high-pressure career - and not something which people ought to have some God-given right to pursue without sacrifice.
Any woman wanting to follow a demanding career has my full backing. But you have no 'right' to be both parent and pilot any more than I have a 'right' to be both astronaut and air traffic controller.
Like a lot of choices in life it comes down to deciding what you want more, and living with the fact that you can't have it all.
My point is that, while I have a demanding career of my own in a job I thoroughly enjoy, there are other jobs - astronaut, pilot, air traffic controller - which I'd also love to do.
But there's no way I could commit to two such jobs at the same time. Like anyone, I have to make a choice. If I want to be an astronaut, it would be ridiculous of me to believe I could remain committed to my current job. The two are simply incompatible owing to the resources and effort that each requires. Therefore I have to stop kidding myself and make a choice - one or the other - and live with my decision.
People seem to think that parenthood is somehow "different" and exempt from this rule. It's not - and all the saccharine PR comments
about how cute your daughter is, Ms Starmer, and how much she loves her mummy don't change a damn thing.Parenthood is, in reality, just another form of high-pressure career - and not something which people ought to have some God-given right to pursue without sacrifice.
Any woman wanting to follow a demanding career has my full backing. But you have no 'right' to be both parent and pilot any more than I have a 'right' to be both astronaut and air traffic controller.
Like a lot of choices in life it comes down to deciding what you want more, and living with the fact that you can't have it all.
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If BALPA intend to defend this con-artist at the appeal, then I for one will cancel my subscription.
Even BALPA seems to have been infiltrated by female practitioners of idiotic political correctness.
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Even BALPA seems to have been infiltrated by female practitioners of idiotic political correctness.
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I couldn't agree more with Konkordski on this subject.
Life is all about choices, and why do so many people believe it's their "right" to make demands like this from their employer. I myself brought up 2 children and in doing so made the conscious decision to leave my job with an airline. It was my choice; I didn't have to start a family and nor did Ms Starmer.
And personally I would be very concerned flying with any pilot with such little experience who was only working 50% of their time.
Life is all about choices, and why do so many people believe it's their "right" to make demands like this from their employer. I myself brought up 2 children and in doing so made the conscious decision to leave my job with an airline. It was my choice; I didn't have to start a family and nor did Ms Starmer.
And personally I would be very concerned flying with any pilot with such little experience who was only working 50% of their time.
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When said female applied for the BA job and during the selection and acceptance stages, she was, without any doubt, informed that the terms included full time employment. At no time would part time working be stated to be a right.
After securing the position with BA, having acknowledged the terms of employment, she then demands a change to those conditions!
Even more unbelievable is that judgement falls in her favour!
The ruling is ridiculous.
Good job for her she doesn't work for some of the organisations I've been involved with........her next simulator ride could signal the end of her employment.
After securing the position with BA, having acknowledged the terms of employment, she then demands a change to those conditions!
Even more unbelievable is that judgement falls in her favour!
The ruling is ridiculous.
Good job for her she doesn't work for some of the organisations I've been involved with........her next simulator ride could signal the end of her employment.