What are the job prospects for new CPLs? (MERGED)
(again).May I remind you that it was your compatriot who originally said:
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Calm down, guys. I know sponsoring is necessary in every country. But of course, if you apply for a job position in the US, the company hiring you would be willing to sponsor you. The contrary is nonsense. "I want to hire your services BUT as you are from abroad I don't want to sponsor you".
I "talked" to somebody from US and my overall impression was that there's no chance to obtain an US work permit to fly helicopters even with sponsorship. Which is quite different from what happens in Spain, where you can work 100% provided you are sponsored by a company.
If I'm wrong please somebody tell me.
I "talked" to somebody from US and my overall impression was that there's no chance to obtain an US work permit to fly helicopters even with sponsorship. Which is quite different from what happens in Spain, where you can work 100% provided you are sponsored by a company.
If I'm wrong please somebody tell me.
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Spanish speaker (non-native English learner) missing out on some subtleties of English syntax and logical reasoning. Makes up for interesting 'cabeza caliente' situation.
C'mon, he didn't mean big company hiring illegals. Plenty of those mano negra Latinos and Africanos in Spain anyway. Spanish nationality and permanent residence laws and regulations make it way too easy to get shoe in, not even considering proper company sponsored work visa for skilled individuals.
C'mon, he didn't mean big company hiring illegals. Plenty of those mano negra Latinos and Africanos in Spain anyway. Spanish nationality and permanent residence laws and regulations make it way too easy to get shoe in, not even considering proper company sponsored work visa for skilled individuals.
Working for free is just stupid
Zuluhc by do so you drag the industry down, don't prostitute yours, place a real value on your skills, work for the right money 
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@xtremalsound - thanks for the intel re Inaer, and the suggestions re Bristow, CHC and Caverton. I have applications in at the first two already, and will work on Caverton tomorrow.
Bummer about Inaer, however can't afford the JAA conversion for the foreseeable future - need to find work with what I have for now.
Best Regards,
rbaron
Bummer about Inaer, however can't afford the JAA conversion for the foreseeable future - need to find work with what I have for now.
Best Regards,
rbaron
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Martinch,
I think you are totally stupid.
I think you really don't know what you are talking about.
Of course there is plenty of imigrants in Spain... But not less than uk, france or another country in europe. In france there is plenty of imigrants from Morroco and anothers African countries, even more than in Spain because they speak the same language.. uk is full up of Nigerian and another nacionalities... So the imigration is the same for almost of the european countries...
So please don't be asshole and think before to write.
Anyway this is a helicopter forum, so don't waist more time in stupid sentences..
I think you are totally stupid.
I think you really don't know what you are talking about.
Of course there is plenty of imigrants in Spain... But not less than uk, france or another country in europe. In france there is plenty of imigrants from Morroco and anothers African countries, even more than in Spain because they speak the same language.. uk is full up of Nigerian and another nacionalities... So the imigration is the same for almost of the european countries...
So please don't be asshole and think before to write.
Anyway this is a helicopter forum, so don't waist more time in stupid sentences..
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Palacio802,
The immigrations laws in the unites state are totally different, there is very unusual that a company sponsors you but that's the way it is..
In Europe, not only Spain was a quite easy to be sponsored, but now let me tell you that almost of the companies are looking also for legal resident.
It was before when it was a shortage of pilots when the companies did that. It happened also in north sea, not only in Spain but for now. They prefer to hire legal residents unless a special needs like happen with Russian kamov ka-32 engineers in Inaer...
@rbaron pm with your total time and time in model, I will ask some guys if they have open vacancies right now...
The immigrations laws in the unites state are totally different, there is very unusual that a company sponsors you but that's the way it is..
In Europe, not only Spain was a quite easy to be sponsored, but now let me tell you that almost of the companies are looking also for legal resident.
It was before when it was a shortage of pilots when the companies did that. It happened also in north sea, not only in Spain but for now. They prefer to hire legal residents unless a special needs like happen with Russian kamov ka-32 engineers in Inaer...
@rbaron pm with your total time and time in model, I will ask some guys if they have open vacancies right now...
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Job as a Heli Pilot
Hi All
Just started my PPL (H) and as you know Im about to spend a ton of money doing my private license and hopefully my CPL (H) etc.
Before I do this, can anyone give me an honest idea of what to expect once Ive wualified, how to build up my hours, and what kind of industries and job availability there is in the South East of England?
I want to do this for a career and need to make sure my expectations are realistic.
Thanks in advance.
Just started my PPL (H) and as you know Im about to spend a ton of money doing my private license and hopefully my CPL (H) etc.
Before I do this, can anyone give me an honest idea of what to expect once Ive wualified, how to build up my hours, and what kind of industries and job availability there is in the South East of England?
I want to do this for a career and need to make sure my expectations are realistic.
Thanks in advance.
I would recommend to spent 1K of your 100K on professional advice.
You could post an advert in the thread Rotor jobs (not for posting CV's).
There are plenty of proffesional pilots who are willing to spent one day to talk some sense into you. if you are in doubt after that you can spend another X time 500 on a second, third, fourth, etc. opinion.
I could give free advice but I do not want to ruin the market.
Cheers SLB
You could post an advert in the thread Rotor jobs (not for posting CV's).
There are plenty of proffesional pilots who are willing to spent one day to talk some sense into you. if you are in doubt after that you can spend another X time 500 on a second, third, fourth, etc. opinion.
I could give free advice but I do not want to ruin the market.
Cheers SLB
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Chrispike7,
I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on £25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on £25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
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Chrispike7,
I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on £25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on £25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
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Plan B
Go fly a drone.
Being a tad selective there Buddy as a student PPL.
From a hard working Expat Brit that got hours flying in the remotest places in the world. Living in ****hole remote camps at +40/-40 eaten alive by every bug known to man in summer. Freezing my nads off in winter. Everyday different, fires,floods,longline,hydro etc. etc. Would I change it....no way Sir. So off ya pop get a CPL and go fly a 22 in SE Blighty. Live your dream, Good Luck.
Go fly a drone.
Being a tad selective there Buddy as a student PPL.
From a hard working Expat Brit that got hours flying in the remotest places in the world. Living in ****hole remote camps at +40/-40 eaten alive by every bug known to man in summer. Freezing my nads off in winter. Everyday different, fires,floods,longline,hydro etc. etc. Would I change it....no way Sir. So off ya pop get a CPL and go fly a 22 in SE Blighty. Live your dream, Good Luck.
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The more I look into it the more my dream gets crushed to bits. You get one shot at this life and to spend £85k on a job where you might end up on £25k is just bloody awful. Im better off flying as a qualified PPL pilot as a hobby and enjoying flying whilst earning a nice salary as a salesman. This is the reality. Sad but true?! Someone please convince me otherwise.
I'd go for CPL/ATPL(A) if i'd be 20 years younger, no question. After following this aviation-thing for more than 25 years there's much steadier (and usually better) income available there. Yeah it might be more boring but I'd say it still beats the salesman job any day.
...sounds to me like an expensive hobby, if that's only as far as you wish to take it. To make a career of flying I would re-direct all of that helicopter hobby spending to something more purposeful, like CPL-A training with IR and ATPL subjects completed. That is infinitely more likely to find you a job at the end of the training pipeline than a basic helicopter license will. And it will probably be cheaper for you to get to that point than the helicopter option.