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What are the job prospects for new CPLs? (MERGED)

Old 7th Jul 2014, 22:26
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Originally Posted by xtremalsound
Bravo73, I read very well and carefully what you wrote and I know you used the word "might", but anyway with this word you are suggesting or giving false ideas. So please be respect with the companies in other countries.

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(again).

May I remind you that it was your compatriot who originally said:
Originally Posted by palacio802
But as far as I know, if you have a contract to work in Spain, you can live and work here with no problems at all.
I suggest that you take it up with him.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 00:28
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Calm down, guys. I know sponsoring is necessary in every country. But of course, if you apply for a job position in the US, the company hiring you would be willing to sponsor you. The contrary is nonsense. "I want to hire your services BUT as you are from abroad I don't want to sponsor you".

I "talked" to somebody from US and my overall impression was that there's no chance to obtain an US work permit to fly helicopters even with sponsorship. Which is quite different from what happens in Spain, where you can work 100% provided you are sponsored by a company.

If I'm wrong please somebody tell me.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 00:45
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Spanish speaker (non-native English learner) missing out on some subtleties of English syntax and logical reasoning. Makes up for interesting 'cabeza caliente' situation.

C'mon, he didn't mean big company hiring illegals. Plenty of those mano negra Latinos and Africanos in Spain anyway. Spanish nationality and permanent residence laws and regulations make it way too easy to get shoe in, not even considering proper company sponsored work visa for skilled individuals.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 02:41
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Question

How hated would I get if I said will work for room and board? Low time pilot, can work ass off, will relocate anywhere worldwide.
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 03:33
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Thumbs down Working for free is just stupid

Zuluhc by do so you drag the industry down, don't prostitute yours, place a real value on your skills, work for the right money
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Old 8th Jul 2014, 03:35
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@xtremalsound - thanks for the intel re Inaer, and the suggestions re Bristow, CHC and Caverton. I have applications in at the first two already, and will work on Caverton tomorrow.

Bummer about Inaer, however can't afford the JAA conversion for the foreseeable future - need to find work with what I have for now.

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Old 8th Jul 2014, 07:58
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Martinch,

I think you are totally stupid.

I think you really don't know what you are talking about.
Of course there is plenty of imigrants in Spain... But not less than uk, france or another country in europe. In france there is plenty of imigrants from Morroco and anothers African countries, even more than in Spain because they speak the same language.. uk is full up of Nigerian and another nacionalities... So the imigration is the same for almost of the european countries...

So please don't be asshole and think before to write.

Anyway this is a helicopter forum, so don't waist more time in stupid sentences..

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Old 8th Jul 2014, 08:07
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Palacio802,

The immigrations laws in the unites state are totally different, there is very unusual that a company sponsors you but that's the way it is..
In Europe, not only Spain was a quite easy to be sponsored, but now let me tell you that almost of the companies are looking also for legal resident.
It was before when it was a shortage of pilots when the companies did that. It happened also in north sea, not only in Spain but for now. They prefer to hire legal residents unless a special needs like happen with Russian kamov ka-32 engineers in Inaer...

@rbaron pm with your total time and time in model, I will ask some guys if they have open vacancies right now...
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Old 9th Jul 2014, 23:14
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That's what I thought. Thanks for the finger wag. Will continue the job hunt, for pay.
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 19:04
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Job as a Heli Pilot

Hi All

Just started my PPL (H) and as you know Im about to spend a ton of money doing my private license and hopefully my CPL (H) etc.

Before I do this, can anyone give me an honest idea of what to expect once Ive wualified, how to build up my hours, and what kind of industries and job availability there is in the South East of England?

I want to do this for a career and need to make sure my expectations are realistic.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 19:13
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Did you read the sticky above about training and employment prospects ?
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 20:28
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I would recommend to spent 1K of your 100K on professional advice.
You could post an advert in the thread Rotor jobs (not for posting CV's).
There are plenty of proffesional pilots who are willing to spent one day to talk some sense into you. if you are in doubt after that you can spend another X time 500 on a second, third, fourth, etc. opinion.

I could give free advice but I do not want to ruin the market.

Cheers SLB
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 20:39
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No but will do now!
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 21:48
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Read the sticky, one could easily be discouraged by some of the comments on there. Not this guy though.
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Old 3rd Oct 2016, 22:23
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Follow your dreams.....
thats the best way for live
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 22:14
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Chrispike7,

I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on 25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 23:11
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Originally Posted by Camp Freddie
Chrispike7,

I would like to offer you some realistic advice
1) a CPL-H on its own is not going to work unless you are v.lucky
2) a FI(H) or an IR(H) will be required as an add on as a minimum
3) you ain't gunna get rich with the FI but you will get hours - bargain on 25k max p.a if you are busy
4) it's the worst time in the world to do the IR(H) right now due low oil price but next year or the year after who knows - if the offshore boys pick you up
5) bottom line is yes follow your dream but please have a plan B if it doesn't work.
Hope this is helpful
The more I look into it the more my dream gets crushed to bits. You get one shot at this life and to spend 85k on a job where you might end up on 25k is just bloody awful. Im better off flying as a qualified PPL pilot as a hobby and enjoying flying whilst earning a nice salary as a salesman. This is the reality. Sad but true?! Someone please convince me otherwise.
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Old 4th Oct 2016, 23:45
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Plan B
Go fly a drone.
Being a tad selective there Buddy as a student PPL.
From a hard working Expat Brit that got hours flying in the remotest places in the world. Living in ****hole remote camps at +40/-40 eaten alive by every bug known to man in summer. Freezing my nads off in winter. Everyday different, fires,floods,longline,hydro etc. etc. Would I change it....no way Sir. So off ya pop get a CPL and go fly a 22 in SE Blighty. Live your dream, Good Luck.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 00:30
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Originally Posted by chrispike7
The more I look into it the more my dream gets crushed to bits. You get one shot at this life and to spend 85k on a job where you might end up on 25k is just bloody awful. Im better off flying as a qualified PPL pilot as a hobby and enjoying flying whilst earning a nice salary as a salesman. This is the reality. Sad but true?! Someone please convince me otherwise.
Well, I'd like to but I can't. Times are hard in helicopter business at the moment. It's always been the price of oil & other natural resources that has been effecting this industry, worldwide speaking. There might be markets that are still doing ok but you don't get anywhere there without experience and right qualifications. And those markets might be in places where you are less than willing to move...

I'd go for CPL/ATPL(A) if i'd be 20 years younger, no question. After following this aviation-thing for more than 25 years there's much steadier (and usually better) income available there. Yeah it might be more boring but I'd say it still beats the salesman job any day.
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Old 5th Oct 2016, 03:27
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...sounds to me like an expensive hobby, if that's only as far as you wish to take it. To make a career of flying I would re-direct all of that helicopter hobby spending to something more purposeful, like CPL-A training with IR and ATPL subjects completed. That is infinitely more likely to find you a job at the end of the training pipeline than a basic helicopter license will. And it will probably be cheaper for you to get to that point than the helicopter option.
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