Training, hours building and first job prospects in America
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If you complete the HAI JAA CPL(H) course you will receive a JAA licence that is identical to the licence you would receive if you did all your training at a UK based school like Oxford or Cabair. It will make no reference to the country where your training took place.
After you complete your JAA CPL(H) you will then complete the FAA Commercial pilot certificate. The two qualifications are completely independent of each other. The only connection is that you are maximizing your training to use the flight hours toward both qualifications to the extent alloed by FAA and JAA ratings.
The other licence you mentioned is for pilots whose JAA qualification is issued on the basis of a foreign certificate.
Enjoy your training!
Ts&Ps
After you complete your JAA CPL(H) you will then complete the FAA Commercial pilot certificate. The two qualifications are completely independent of each other. The only connection is that you are maximizing your training to use the flight hours toward both qualifications to the extent alloed by FAA and JAA ratings.
The other licence you mentioned is for pilots whose JAA qualification is issued on the basis of a foreign certificate.
Enjoy your training!
Ts&Ps
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The certificate might not tell where you did the course but your logbook will reveal this. It's not popular among other JAA states that JAA training is done outside of Europe.
I know of a case where France refused to recognize a full JAR issued certificate. This was due to the fact that the practical test was shorter than the prescribed time (0.2 hours too short I think).
If your intention is to use the certificate in a country like France I recommend you to contact the appropriate authority before commencing your training.
I know of a case where France refused to recognize a full JAR issued certificate. This was due to the fact that the practical test was shorter than the prescribed time (0.2 hours too short I think).
If your intention is to use the certificate in a country like France I recommend you to contact the appropriate authority before commencing your training.
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Vortex Helicopters is a great school, they have well trained instructors and a thorough curriculum. The fleet consists of R22’s and is immaculately maintained by an on-site maintenance department. Currently studying for my commercial license... The school is located in Long Beach, Mississippi.
Rhody
Welcome to the forum Rhody.
Interesting first post.
Heliport
Rhody
Welcome to the forum Rhody.
Interesting first post.
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Have met some great pilots who came through that place who speak very highly of it, and speak very highly of the way the owners and the locals look after you while you are there!
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I too am looking into flight schools and Vortex seems to offer a good deal. They also say that the accomodation is included in the Professional pilot course.
Would like to know more opinions
Would like to know more opinions
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Just checked the logbook and it was mid 2000 when I last flew with Vortex.
A neat operation set up by a couple of Vietnam vets by cutting a hole in the 'ouisiana forest and making 3M59 heliport. Back then it was best described as Southern Professional, which means that it looks like everyone is laid back and slow but nobody misses a thing, and the moment anything needs fixing they are onto it in Spades.
Really enjoyed my time with them, good instruction and good atmosphere. They had some Japanese contracts back then which added a multicultural interest. Much Birru consumed.
Gulfport-Biloxi is economical to live (they had very reasonable and OK accomodation for students) and the redneck riviera is right there if you need the night-life.
That was year 2000. With the attitude they had back then, I would suspect it has only got better, but I don't know.
FWIW
A neat operation set up by a couple of Vietnam vets by cutting a hole in the 'ouisiana forest and making 3M59 heliport. Back then it was best described as Southern Professional, which means that it looks like everyone is laid back and slow but nobody misses a thing, and the moment anything needs fixing they are onto it in Spades.
Really enjoyed my time with them, good instruction and good atmosphere. They had some Japanese contracts back then which added a multicultural interest. Much Birru consumed.
Gulfport-Biloxi is economical to live (they had very reasonable and OK accomodation for students) and the redneck riviera is right there if you need the night-life.
That was year 2000. With the attitude they had back then, I would suspect it has only got better, but I don't know.
FWIW
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No need to trash it - genuine recommendations are very useful.
It's people plugging their own school - often dressed up as independent 'recommendations' - often just registered and/or never posting on any other topic - who are a pain in the butt.
Heliport
It's people plugging their own school - often dressed up as independent 'recommendations' - often just registered and/or never posting on any other topic - who are a pain in the butt.
Heliport
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Civic was NOT taken over by SS...repeat NOT. I am still with them now. We
Edited.
As I was saying earlier........
Heliport
BTW, knocking rival schools doesn't help your credibilty.
Edited.
As I was saying earlier........
Heliport
BTW, knocking rival schools doesn't help your credibilty.
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Ooops, sorry dcdawn,
but I'm pretty damn sure that I read something like that a couple of months ago.
Anyhow, I hereby withdraw what I just said before and argue the converse...
Sorry
but I'm pretty damn sure that I read something like that a couple of months ago.
Anyhow, I hereby withdraw what I just said before and argue the converse...
Sorry
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I thought the training I recieved at Civic was great, good ground school with my instructor, and flight time was never a problem as long as you scheduled out a little bit.
got though from 0 to CFI in about 10 months.
I 've heard that they're getting pretty busy, so you might want to givem a call if you only have a short amount of time to do your training... so as to make sure you can get on the schedule.
good luck
J.
got though from 0 to CFI in about 10 months.
I 've heard that they're getting pretty busy, so you might want to givem a call if you only have a short amount of time to do your training... so as to make sure you can get on the schedule.
good luck
J.
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I highly recommend them...I did both my Private and Commercial training with them and I have nothing but good things to say about Civic.
Whether you prefer Robbies or Schweizers, they have them.
Feel free to ask any specific questions about Civic.
FYI, "dcdawn" is correct, they were NOT acquired by SilverState.
Good luck with your training!
Whether you prefer Robbies or Schweizers, they have them.
Feel free to ask any specific questions about Civic.
FYI, "dcdawn" is correct, they were NOT acquired by SilverState.
Good luck with your training!
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Southern Califoria is beautiful, virtually all the coastal towns are very pleasant and Carlsbad is no exception - although I'd say very pleasant rather than spectacular.
Easy access to good beaches in the area, and even better just to the South.
Also to the North, but they are on the other side of Camp Pendleton (an enormous Marine Corps base) and San Onofre (nuclear power plant) so it's a longer journey.
It's a very easy drive (about 30 mins, depending on time of day) to San Diego - which is spectacular and stunningly beautiful.
Here's a map of the area. Carlsbad isn't shown, but look for Oceanside. Carlsbad/Palomar airport is <10 miles SSE.
Best all year round climate in North America, and probably the world, IMHO. Hot in the summer (but rarely humid) and mild in the winter. Very little rain.
Tudor Owen
Easy access to good beaches in the area, and even better just to the South.
Also to the North, but they are on the other side of Camp Pendleton (an enormous Marine Corps base) and San Onofre (nuclear power plant) so it's a longer journey.
It's a very easy drive (about 30 mins, depending on time of day) to San Diego - which is spectacular and stunningly beautiful.
Here's a map of the area. Carlsbad isn't shown, but look for Oceanside. Carlsbad/Palomar airport is <10 miles SSE.
Best all year round climate in North America, and probably the world, IMHO. Hot in the summer (but rarely humid) and mild in the winter. Very little rain.
Tudor Owen
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You're right. 
I had an extremely tempting offer from a law firm in Los Angeles almost 20 years ago. I was very tempted, but turned it down for reasons which seemed important at the time.
One of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life!
Would I have stayed in LA and be living in Malibu overlooking the Pacific as an attorney friend of mine does?
Or moved to a firm in San Diego and be living in a house overlooking the Pacific in La Jolla, a very pretty town just to the North, as some other friends do?
More likely the latter, but I'll never know.
Oh well, must stop dreaming and get on with some work.
(Memo to self: Start buying Lottery tickets.)
I had an extremely tempting offer from a law firm in Los Angeles almost 20 years ago. I was very tempted, but turned it down for reasons which seemed important at the time.
One of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life!
Would I have stayed in LA and be living in Malibu overlooking the Pacific as an attorney friend of mine does?
Or moved to a firm in San Diego and be living in a house overlooking the Pacific in La Jolla, a very pretty town just to the North, as some other friends do?
More likely the latter, but I'll never know.
Oh well, must stop dreaming and get on with some work.
(Memo to self: Start buying Lottery tickets.)
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Flying Lawyer: Very little rain???!!!!! Normally, but not this year!!
We have had about 50 inches of the stuff so far on my little hill top. In fact it's raining again now............
The area is very nice, great beaches, great girls in bikinis and lots to see and do in San Diego (zoo, Balboa Park, great airplane museum etc.)
Traffic as with LA is dreadful though.
We have had about 50 inches of the stuff so far on my little hill top. In fact it's raining again now............
The area is very nice, great beaches, great girls in bikinis and lots to see and do in San Diego (zoo, Balboa Park, great airplane museum etc.)
Traffic as with LA is dreadful though.
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Training at HAI
Hi,
Is anybody currently training at HAI in Florida that could give me some advice about these guys?
I have heard they are an exceptional school to do my FAA and JAA ratings with but i have heard a rumour that the students are not getting enough air time due to the lack of Instructors and Heli's?
Any help help woud be great!
Popa.
Is anybody currently training at HAI in Florida that could give me some advice about these guys?
I have heard they are an exceptional school to do my FAA and JAA ratings with but i have heard a rumour that the students are not getting enough air time due to the lack of Instructors and Heli's?
Any help help woud be great!
Popa.