Hours building: Questions, Ideas, Advice, Countries etc
Re: hour building - any ideas?
TC,
Weather in the UK is pretty tame compared to some of ours...ever seen what a real thunderstorm looks like? Tornadoes...Hail the size of tennis balls...Blizzards...mechanical turbulence in the mountains...winter in the Northwest.... winter fog in the Gulf of Mexico area....summer haze on the east coast...dust storms in the desert areas and West Texas?
The North Sea flying had some interesting times...but overall the UK weather is not as bumpy or violent as some of ours can be.
Just like real estate..."location...location...location" is the key.
Some areas in the country the weather is very mild, pretty usually, and quite easy to fly in. Other parts are challenging to the max.
Weather in the UK is pretty tame compared to some of ours...ever seen what a real thunderstorm looks like? Tornadoes...Hail the size of tennis balls...Blizzards...mechanical turbulence in the mountains...winter in the Northwest.... winter fog in the Gulf of Mexico area....summer haze on the east coast...dust storms in the desert areas and West Texas?
The North Sea flying had some interesting times...but overall the UK weather is not as bumpy or violent as some of ours can be.
Just like real estate..."location...location...location" is the key.
Some areas in the country the weather is very mild, pretty usually, and quite easy to fly in. Other parts are challenging to the max.
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Re: hour building - any ideas?
If you are thinking of Hours Building in the USA I would strongly recommend LA Helicopters in Long Beach California.
I have been there twice last year and going back in March
Take advantage of the exchange rate and fly around Sunny California!!!!!
$170 per hour solo R22 with a discount for block hours
Good ships and very good team of staff
No Visa required for hours building
Convert your JAR licence before you go and then just a school checkout required with the CFI a frenchman called Guill.(a top bloke)
If you would like any other info please PM me
Chester
I have been there twice last year and going back in March
Take advantage of the exchange rate and fly around Sunny California!!!!!
$170 per hour solo R22 with a discount for block hours
Good ships and very good team of staff
No Visa required for hours building
Convert your JAR licence before you go and then just a school checkout required with the CFI a frenchman called Guill.(a top bloke)
If you would like any other info please PM me
Chester
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Re: hour building - any ideas?
1.fill out one form from the FAA website
2. fax it to Oklahoma city
3. fill out one form from the UK CAA
4.send it to Gatwick with £16
5, go to USA requested FSDO EG, Long Beach CA get given FAA PPL issued on the back of JAR licence
2. fax it to Oklahoma city
3. fill out one form from the UK CAA
4.send it to Gatwick with £16
5, go to USA requested FSDO EG, Long Beach CA get given FAA PPL issued on the back of JAR licence
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Re: Hour building - any ideas?
Hi,
If I was you and wanted to go to the US for some hour building, I should go for FAA PPL and then FAA Instrument Rating. I think its well spent money to go for some training even if you have your JAA PPL already, ie. training emergencies(you can never do too much of that!) and some confined areas and stuff like that you can use later when going for your JAA CPL. Also if you do your FAA Instrument Rating its training that you can be credited for when doing your JAA IR....(saving alot of £)
I was training with Vortex Helicopters in MS some years ago and was very happy with the training. The airspace is not to busy and Joe (the owner) is a very nice guy that will help you out.
When you go for your training, remember to go for QUALITY training, because that are the basic fundamental skills and attitudes you are going to use the rest of you career
Good Luck
If I was you and wanted to go to the US for some hour building, I should go for FAA PPL and then FAA Instrument Rating. I think its well spent money to go for some training even if you have your JAA PPL already, ie. training emergencies(you can never do too much of that!) and some confined areas and stuff like that you can use later when going for your JAA CPL. Also if you do your FAA Instrument Rating its training that you can be credited for when doing your JAA IR....(saving alot of £)
I was training with Vortex Helicopters in MS some years ago and was very happy with the training. The airspace is not to busy and Joe (the owner) is a very nice guy that will help you out.
When you go for your training, remember to go for QUALITY training, because that are the basic fundamental skills and attitudes you are going to use the rest of you career
Good Luck
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Re: Hour building - any ideas?
do you think it would be better to do the commercial pilots licence with the faa and then convert to jaa or to just carry on with hour building in the states and do your jaa cpl back in the uk? It seems a much cheaper option to do as many qualifications as you can in america and convert them in the uk than the other way around.....
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Re: Hour building - any ideas?
SASless
I am just going to go into my pantry to find some pie (humble flavoured) to eat. Yum Yum!
I will rephrase: the weather here is very changeable.
I am just going to go into my pantry to find some pie (humble flavoured) to eat. Yum Yum!
I will rephrase: the weather here is very changeable.
R44 ENG Hours?
Anyone got any info on low cost handling time in an R44? There has been a fair bit of info about Bell & Astar leads via ENG operations on the West Coast, but with the switch to the R44 by a groiwing number of operators, anyone know if some hour building opportunities have come about with this trend?
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Hours building (merged)
I have my PPL H and ATPL exams and I m trying to find the most cost effective way to hour build preferably in the UK. I have been advised that a part share in a R22 is the way to go.
What are the benefits/risks of a part share.
Are there any better routes?
I have had a look in FAQ and search and it didnt help
GLS
What are the benefits/risks of a part share.
Are there any better routes?
I have had a look in FAQ and search and it didnt help
GLS
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The risks are:
1. Unscheduled maintenance
2. Accidents / Dings
If you do the number crunching, you will probably find even without 1 or 2 above you will struggle to make the numbers add up because of the number of hours you will do compared to a school. If you are determined, lease back can help clock up the hours and so reduce the fixed costs.
If you choose a different type of helicopter with more favourable component times, you may get lucky and have a run where nothing goes wrong and have some very cheap flying. Or you may end up with some very large bills if the previous person had that good run
Negotiate a very good deal with a school so you can toss them the keys at the end of the day and let them worry about insurance, maintenance, hangarage and so on. This also allows diversity in your hour building, both in location and type.
1. Unscheduled maintenance
2. Accidents / Dings
If you do the number crunching, you will probably find even without 1 or 2 above you will struggle to make the numbers add up because of the number of hours you will do compared to a school. If you are determined, lease back can help clock up the hours and so reduce the fixed costs.
If you choose a different type of helicopter with more favourable component times, you may get lucky and have a run where nothing goes wrong and have some very cheap flying. Or you may end up with some very large bills if the previous person had that good run
Negotiate a very good deal with a school so you can toss them the keys at the end of the day and let them worry about insurance, maintenance, hangarage and so on. This also allows diversity in your hour building, both in location and type.
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If anyone is hour building for CPL/FI purposes, I would also suggest making sure that you get experience on a good spread of common types (R22, R44 and H269).
Limiting yourself to purely the R22 isn't ideal, but neither is a lot of time on a machine very few people operate unless you are confident you will be more employable to those few operators.
Limiting yourself to purely the R22 isn't ideal, but neither is a lot of time on a machine very few people operate unless you are confident you will be more employable to those few operators.