View Poll Results: Type rating?
Bought Type rating - got the job
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66.67%
Bought Type rating - told "need time on type"
1
16.67%
You were told buy the type and get the job - but did not get a job offer anyway
1
16.67%
Voters: 6. This poll is closed
Type Rating - which type, where, why pay etc?
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
It depends:-
What aircraft type are you doing it on?
Do you have any line training as part of the rating?
How much is it costing?
Has anyone said they will give you a job when you're done?
Are you seriously wasting your time and money? If you're "going to be doing" it anyway, then let's hope not!
Good luck.
What aircraft type are you doing it on?
Do you have any line training as part of the rating?
How much is it costing?
Has anyone said they will give you a job when you're done?
Are you seriously wasting your time and money? If you're "going to be doing" it anyway, then let's hope not!
Good luck.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Don't do it!Get a turboprop job instead for 2-3 years, go to a jet operator who does not require gullible pilots,et voila-on jets without £25000 dent in wallet
A320 Rider Didn't you do a type rating post oxford and not get anywhere from it?
A320 Rider Didn't you do a type rating post oxford and not get anywhere from it?
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
I would hope that anybody posting on this subject doesn't preach one thing and do another !!!
Enough has been said on this subject in the last few weeks alone, maybe best to ignore these posts, i opt not to repeat my feelings on this subject because i know somebody who spends a lot of time with good looking girls in red uniforms is watching
Enough has been said on this subject in the last few weeks alone, maybe best to ignore these posts, i opt not to repeat my feelings on this subject because i know somebody who spends a lot of time with good looking girls in red uniforms is watching
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Originally Posted by A320rider,
pay a company to work?
pay a company to work?
needless not say i gave him an ear bashing 
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
OK
Im considering it too and got this offer
737 CL + NG 22.000 Euros including basecheck and 100 hrs linetraining with a well know airline in Europe all JAA of course.
What do you think ??
Jannik
Im considering it too and got this offer
737 CL + NG 22.000 Euros including basecheck and 100 hrs linetraining with a well know airline in Europe all JAA of course.
What do you think ??
Jannik
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
If you want to drive one of Mr Branson's swanky new Pendolino trains, he will shell out the entire training cost for you and will also pay you a considerable sum of money to drive it. Why therefore should you pay yourself to learn to fly the aeronautical equivalent, having already expensively obtained the basic qualification, in the hope that somebody will then invite you (and hopefully pay you) to fly it for them.
Occasionally, you read about pilots in your position who gambled £25000 away and won - i.e. they were offered a job on the basis of their new type rating. They were very lucky. What you never hear about is the many people who have gambled similarly and lost. They are so much in debt that they can't even afford a computer to post on the internet!
Because people will do this, employers will take advantage of it - their job is to make as much money for themselves and their shareholders after all. Take the advice offered - get a gas turbine job where training will be offered, hopefully with fair bonding conditions (I don't think Mr Branson will bond you for training to drive his Pendolinos) and then move on at the appropriate time when your experience will make you attractive to a jet operator even without the rating.
P.P.
Occasionally, you read about pilots in your position who gambled £25000 away and won - i.e. they were offered a job on the basis of their new type rating. They were very lucky. What you never hear about is the many people who have gambled similarly and lost. They are so much in debt that they can't even afford a computer to post on the internet!
Because people will do this, employers will take advantage of it - their job is to make as much money for themselves and their shareholders after all. Take the advice offered - get a gas turbine job where training will be offered, hopefully with fair bonding conditions (I don't think Mr Branson will bond you for training to drive his Pendolinos) and then move on at the appropriate time when your experience will make you attractive to a jet operator even without the rating.
P.P.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Strange how so many people responded to this post, similar posts have not been entertained recently, perhaps it had something to do with the name of the person posting it .
Agree with Scroggs, don't be lazy, use the search function.
.Agree with Scroggs, don't be lazy, use the search function.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
How's this for irony. I knew a flying instructor who had about 1500 hours and had paid for a 737 type rating. He had returned to work as a flying instructor as he wasn't having much joy with his job-hunting. After about a year he finally got offered a job flying a bizjet and guess what? He had to pay for his type rating! Sods Law I suppose.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
noooo!!!
the companies, like that pilots pay for a type rating! they are happy!
But we pay for ATPL, CPL, IR and MCC...is it not enought ??
pay for TR =
the companies, like that pilots pay for a type rating! they are happy!
But we pay for ATPL, CPL, IR and MCC...is it not enought ??
pay for TR =
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Markflyer has the right answer, do a turboprop, get some experience and let the airline pay for your rating. As has been said many times on here before, a type rating does not a vacancy make. It will however put you in some nice debt. NO DONT DOIT
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Originally Posted by CAT3C AUTOLAND
Agree with Scroggs, don't be lazy, use the search function.
One of the problems with this subject is that it generates little advice and a great deal of polemics. The same people reiterate their entrenched political positions with out any significant exchange of viewpoints. It always reminds me of the Monty Python argument sketch:
"M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
(short pause)
A: No it isn't
etc
(short pause)
A: No it isn't
etc
Scroggs
for those who are too young to remember Python, or who'd like a reminder of the full sketch, see here.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
OK Boys & Girls,
I don't normally get involved in this hot air and Scroggs is correct in all he has said, however, I shall state my informed opinion which does result in getting a good jet job.
Nobody goes into this game to fly a turbo prop or other such junk! and those jobs aint easy to come by anyway. As for being an instructor, forget it unless you want to live in a bed sit eating beaked beans on toast for the next 3 years.
My advice is to by-pass the whole lot, including all the airline HR dept selection `lottery` crap. Budget about 40,000 pounds. It might not cost you that much but be ready to pay for type rating, base check, and line training. 100hrs is the minimum, but 300 plus is better. Within 6-8 months you will be established in the job you set out for, have a decent pay packet and able to sleep at night.
I can assure you that you will not be looked down upon within the industry for doing this, and even if you were, who cares?
You must do whatever is required to get unfrozen with jet hrs. Any other route is a waste of time, effort and earning potential.
I don't normally get involved in this hot air and Scroggs is correct in all he has said, however, I shall state my informed opinion which does result in getting a good jet job.
Nobody goes into this game to fly a turbo prop or other such junk! and those jobs aint easy to come by anyway. As for being an instructor, forget it unless you want to live in a bed sit eating beaked beans on toast for the next 3 years.
My advice is to by-pass the whole lot, including all the airline HR dept selection `lottery` crap. Budget about 40,000 pounds. It might not cost you that much but be ready to pay for type rating, base check, and line training. 100hrs is the minimum, but 300 plus is better. Within 6-8 months you will be established in the job you set out for, have a decent pay packet and able to sleep at night.
I can assure you that you will not be looked down upon within the industry for doing this, and even if you were, who cares?
You must do whatever is required to get unfrozen with jet hrs. Any other route is a waste of time, effort and earning potential.
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Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
Well said Reality Check
Buying type ratings is not new in our industry, and will continue to increasingly be the norm. People who preach otherwise are just too proud to admit they've run out of loot, or they would be doing it themselves.
This is a unique industry, and one that cannot be possibly be compared to any other - so if you think you are better off driving a train because your training is paid for, go ahead, and stop squawking.
And to those who say 'don't do it unless you are guaranteed a job' are clearly not all the ticket. Who can guarantee anything? Or even believe them even if they did?
The truth is SexyChic that if you've got the money - you are doing the right thing. You know they say 'the harder you practise, the luckier you'll get'. In aviation i'm afraid it is 'the more you spend, the luckier you'll get'.
Good luck next week scroggs.
Buying type ratings is not new in our industry, and will continue to increasingly be the norm. People who preach otherwise are just too proud to admit they've run out of loot, or they would be doing it themselves.
This is a unique industry, and one that cannot be possibly be compared to any other - so if you think you are better off driving a train because your training is paid for, go ahead, and stop squawking.
And to those who say 'don't do it unless you are guaranteed a job' are clearly not all the ticket. Who can guarantee anything? Or even believe them even if they did?
The truth is SexyChic that if you've got the money - you are doing the right thing. You know they say 'the harder you practise, the luckier you'll get'. In aviation i'm afraid it is 'the more you spend, the luckier you'll get'.
Good luck next week scroggs.