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Old 27th Sep 2018, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Chris Martyr View Post
@MaxR : Oddly enough Max , You've hit the nail right on the head there mate ! Here is the aviation version of any reality TV star you wish to name . I have asked quite a few of the professional guys in the airline I work , and most of them haven't a clue who this person is . Go to a busy place and poll a few members of the gen. pub. and I can almost guarantee that none of them will have heard of the person who is subject of this post . The only place that this person is famous , is in her head . Unless you factor in some of the bumbling , geriatric oafs in her little bubble who shuffle up to her at the various meetings in their blazers and cravats and tell her what a great message she is sending out to the lesser privileged .

The big regret though is , some of the bumbling , geriatric oafs who have been taken in by her total and utter garbage , just happen to be fairly influential in an organisation which is quite close to my heart . This is what really inflames many . Some people tried to stop this rather undesirable tumour spreading a couple of years back and until very recently were under the impression that they had succeeded . They hadn't !
To the relief of many , this thread died a death on September 7th . Guess whose self publicity seeking instincts caused this thread to re-open ? Apparently , the person in question is trying to promote a film . Not a great classic blockbuster or anything , but have a guess who the star is ?
It is worth recalling what one of New Zealands major display pilots revealed a few years ago on another Prune thread.
As with most BS'ers the is always a grain of truth on which to build the illusion of greatness.TCT's wiki page is a gross imbelishment of the facts.I know for a fact,that she once held both an NZ CPL and C Cat Instructor rating but that was more than 19 years ago and they are certainly not current.She was,briefly,an instructor for a flying school at Ardmore.She never flew commercially in any other sense.She never ever displayed any aircraft of any type in NZ.Vitually all of her flying was in light aircraft with the exception of a rating in a NA Harvard and probably less than 25 hrs total in that type.The bulk of her bio on wiki and her website is smoke and mirrors. Trust me....I know.
He knows because he is the Taylor in Curtis Taylor.Her ex husband and famous NZ display pilot.

Great guy..check him out here.


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Old 27th Sep 2018, 22:15
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Ms. TC-T was (probably still is) a Freeman of HCAP. I found that strange when this all first blew up (I checked her status at the time) because if she was a commercial pilot it was more correct for her to be an Upper Freeman. I cannot confirm this because my access to the HCAP website was barred very shortly after I resigned.
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Old 27th Sep 2018, 23:12
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I know this is off topic but the aforementioned Sea Fury has just gone on the block today,here is the link. https://www.avbuyer.com › Single Piston › Hawker Aircraft Co. › Sea Fury › .I'd be more than happy to fly it for the next lucky owner.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 01:48
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1. a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer.
2. a group of sycophants.

Love it.

The pity of it all is is that the video/movie of her African flight was so well received for its quality photography. All to be spoilt by the lies told.

If she were a competent pilot why was she not solo? Ewald could have ridden, or even flown, the accompanying aircraft. The attempt to white wash Ewald out of the picture and make it all about her is what infuriates, the departure from the UK to France subterfuge highlights the problem.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 03:12
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Pitts picture and caption deleted because of a privacy issue that I hadn’t thought about.

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 07:21
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Aaahhhh, but it's not an OPEN cockpit, so doesn't count.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 07:44
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Originally Posted by Jay Sata View Post
because he is the Taylor in Curtis Taylor.Her ex husband and famous NZ display pilot.

Great guy..check him out here.
Well done for unearthing that little snippet , J-S . Watching that was an interesting and well spent 25mins .
What a thoroughly pleasant , knowledgeable , modest , soft-spoken and absolutely genuine gentleman he looks to be .

Tracey really needs to spend more time with folk of that ilk.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 08:49
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Originally Posted by Chris Martyr View Post
What a thoroughly pleasant , knowledgeable , modest , soft-spoken and absolutely genuine gentleman he looks to be .

Tracey really needs to spend more time with folk of that ilk.


Exactly.



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Old 28th Sep 2018, 09:24
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As a retired professional pilot and LAA member I have followed this thread with great interest. Patently there was some sort of falling out between Sam and the T C-T team regarding logistics support HOWEVER this have never been the real issue! Ewald goes to great length to obfuscate while still avoiding the real issue.
T C-T is undoubtably an entertaining speaker but one whose whole approach seems to be directed only at people who know nothing about aviation. Hence her "bigging up" and boasting about her "derring do". Quite frankly, having seen and viewed many of her addresses they are toe curlingly embarrassing to hear from an aviator. They are very much along the line of those seen with "real life" docudramas which portray aviation in a very dramatic fashion. T C-T's self aggrandising has echoes of that from a former peer of the realm who spent time in jail for perjury!
One small point that bothers me still is the Wilmslow crash. Being familiar with Wilmslow I can't help but wonder why, with the partial power loss at only 50ft., was the aircraft not put down again on the remaining runway? Could instead this have been a take-off action flyby, done for dramatic effect, gone wrong?

Similarily, Ewald's assertion that he was not needed for navigational assistance sounds a bit hollow when one realises that there was a chase/support aircraft in close proximity the whole time!

I urge other LAA members to vote accordingly at the AGM to save the LAA from it's own embarrassment.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 10:45
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Meikleour, questions I have been asking for a while too. There is more to what happened that day other than it simply focusing attention on the "other pilot".

So it is not lost in the melee of posts I repeat here Sam's very simple question directed at Ewald.

Tracey has stated publicly that you never touched the controls at any stage during the three trips. Is this true?

Yes (true) or No (untrue), please.

Answer please, not avoidance.


Only one of the options above please Ewald, it cannot get any clearer than that.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 13:40
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Meikleour, questions I have been asking for a while too. There is more to what happened that day other than it simply focusing attention on the "other pilot".

So it is not lost in the melee of posts I repeat here Sam's very simple question directed at Ewald.

Tracey has stated publicly that you never touched the controls at any stage during the three trips. Is this true?

Yes (true) or No (untrue), please.

Answer please, not avoidance.


Only one of the options above please Ewald, it cannot get any clearer than that.
Dont know how good the trim is in that Stearman but itís unrealistic to expect her to do the whole thing without even a short break. I know on my trans continental flights in the Maule (solo 😀 ) you need to take your hands of the wheel to scratch your arse or light a fag at a minimum, and with no autopilot it would have been damned handy to have a flying buddy.
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scratch your arse or light a fag
Is that how you strike the match?
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 14:30
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I urge other LAA members to vote accordingly at the AGM to save the LAA from it's own embarrassment.
But this is the sad part about it all , Meikleour , whichever way this vote goes , it is going to end up as an embarrassment for the LAA . Certain people from within the organisation have allowed the LAA to be backed into a lose/lose situation .
Let's say that the vote on Oct21st goes against her and she doesn't get her own way . Will she just accept it with grace and dignity ? Of course not ! she didn't last time and will definitely not do so this time either. I have been informed very reliably that 'her people' have not left the LAA alone ever since Oct 2016 .

Let's say that the vote on Oct21st goes in her favour then . Will things just revert back to same-old , same-old for the LAA ? With view to the fact that a tiny minority of people in privileged places have just succeeded in mightily pis***ng off a lot of members , I would say probably not .
And what will Tracey get out of this ? Her good name and reputation restored ? They were in tatters even before she stuck her tentacles into the LAA in the first place !
Will it give her forthcoming docu-soap any sort of kudos ? Considering that most viewers will be 'non-av' types , none whatsoever I'd say .


She is a disgrace to a very worthwhile organisation ! Nothing whatsoever will be gained by anybody after this AGM , regardless of how the voting goes , so why not just back off , show a little respect to the genuine LAA'ers who will be in attendance [that includes Colin Hales too by the way] , plus also a very fine speaker who I hope doesn't find the attendance of her gang too humiliating .
I am very proud of my LAA membership . It has allowed me to build a delightful little traditional-style aeroplane and maintain and operate it for over 14yrs . LAA , I salute you for this !

But allowing this train crash to happen is odious beyond words .
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 15:05
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If Curtis-Taylor manages to get the vote rescinded and thus re-receives the award, that is going to make mainstream news in much the same way as the removal did.
Her team is playing a high-risk game because a wider media interest will undoubtedly open the gates for the evidence shown on this thread to be published and this time, I'm pretty sure it will all come out in the open.
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 15:35
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If Curtis-Taylor manages to get the vote rescinded and thus re-receives the award, .
This is the daft part about it all Clare . Colin Hales is the Bill Woodhams Trophy's current custodian and he will be handing the award to its new recipient , and that new recipient is most definitely NOT Tracey Curtis-Taylor !
I am convinced the TC-T's people believe that she was awarded that trophy for life and not on an annually rolling basis . She will be receiving nothing , other than having her honour and dignity restored.

If I wasn't such a tactful diplomatic person , I would suggest that the LAA should offer a trophy named 'The Ernest Saunders Trophy' , as I'm sure that most of the educated and intelligent people on here [ i.e. Those who Tracey's people describe as internet trolls] would appreciate that .

Oh,,,and Tracey/Ewald ,,,when you see Colin Hales ? Make sure he doesn't use that 'S' word , coz I know damn well that he wasn't. [and so does Fredy-Pig]

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Her team is playing a high-risk game because a wider media interest
I know almost nothing about PR and the games that are played in it's name. But isn't wider media interest exactly what they are after? Do they really care why people watch their film as long as we all watch it and they make enough money from it? And who on here will be able to resist watching it, if not quite in the spirit it was intended? Once the film has reached the audience, do they really care what happens to TCT? Sometimes I wonder if she is just a gullible puppet in all of this as they feed on her selfish ambitions to be recognised as an aviatrix. She got herself into this and now the only way out is to come clean and hope to pick up some useful pieces. Perhaps the LAA could offer her some kind of award for coming clean and exposing the whole charade.
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Recording of the NTSB Winslow findings regarding the alleged fuel contamination has now been excised from her Wiki site :

(Removed due to questionable origin: The first NTSB report confirms contaminated fuel found but not where it came from, the second report does not go into any detail and leaves it open.)
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Old 28th Sep 2018, 18:25
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Recording of the NTSB Winslow findings regarding the alleged fuel contamination has now been excised from her Wiki site :

(Removed due to questionable origin: The first NTSB report confirms contaminated fuel found but not where it came from, the second report does not go into any detail and leaves it open.)
This is getting ridiculous. What will they accept as a good source if not the NTSB?
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY View Post
This is getting ridiculous. What will they accept as a good source if not the NTSB?

I'm no expert on Wiki but reading the talk section on that page is an eye opener.

Back when TCT's claque (love that word) first began altering the truth there they refused to accept the FAA or AAIB as credible sources. Even better than that, they argue that direct quotes from TCT herself (from interviews and the Herne Bay video) were unacceptable as (get this), in the video TCT claims to have flown solo but in the interview she contradicted herself (the "sole pilot" defence). They refused to accept TCT's own words! You couldn't make it up.

Latterly I've been watching Wiki ping pong where TCT's side had written that the cause of the Winslow crash was undetermined. Then someone inserted TCT's statement that it had been due to fuel contamination with a comment that the NTSB hadn't found this to be so. They didn't like that and it disappeared and reappeared a few times. Now it seems that as TCT's side can't live with the NTSB's report they've removed her original claim about contamination along with the other editors. They really, really don't want anyone putting out anything other than their fanciful version of things. That PR company must be earning their money.

Watching them wriggle and tie themselves in knots makes for entertaining reading too.

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