JAR PPL to EASA PPL Conversion.

[Dragonlight]

Hi all,

Apologies if I'm covering old ground. I have a JAR PPL with a valid SEP and the license is required to be "re-issued not later than 10/12/12".

Im trying to find out what I need to do to get the license re-issued and at the same time converted to an EASA PPL, as I have had a few conflicting reports. I've also had no joy from the CAA.

I have a Form SRG 1157 (Skills Test) and a Form SRG 1107 (SEP Rating) from my last SEP renewal filled out and ready to send. As far as I can tell I attatch the Form SRG 1102 (Licence renewal) and Form SRG 1104 (EASA Conversion) to my test paperwork and send it off with £73, can anyone let me know if this is correct? Also do I need to apply for the FTROL separately or is this sent out at the same time as part of the conversion?

Also just to clarify do I need to have a specific aerobatics tick on my licence now or is my prior experience sufficient? I also want to make sure I don't need to do anything special to retain my VP Prop and Retractable Undercarriage difference training.

Many thanks for any help.
Kind regards.

[wb9999]

SRG1102 is not required, as that is for UK CAA licences only - not JAA.
I made that mistake. It's not a problem if you do send that in, but it just saves you the time of filling it out. SRG1104 is needed to convert to EASA.

I'm not sure about FRTOL, as I was in a different position when I converted to EASA.

Make sure you have level 6 English proficiency, otherwise your application will be delayed until you obtain it.

[MrAverage]

Not true, a valid 4 or 5 is also acceptable.

[wb9999]

It's very unlikely that the original poster will have a valid level 4 or 5. I would expect the OP to have a level 6 already or an expired level 4.

[Dragonlight]

Sorry to claim ignorance about the English Level requirement.

I'm a UK national and my first language is English, is the tick in the box on the SRG 1157 sufficient or is there more supporting documentation I need to attach?

Thanks for the kind replies.

[wb9999]

Did your skills test examiner tick the box to say you are level 6 for English proficiency? If so, then you are all good. If not, then it's best to get the examiner to tick the box.

You can't tick the box - it has to be an examiner. Although the new SRG1157 doesn't make it difficult for an applicant to do this. On the previous version of the form, the examiner had to sign separately in the language proficiency section.

Also, it's worth a phone call to the CAA to see if you are already level 6. It appears from another forum that some people have a level 6 without knowing it.

[Dragonlight]

Thanks WB,

I'll continue to try and call them, not getting through the last day or so. The instructor has ticked the box though thankfully. I'm thinking of sending the original copies of my SEP Rating and Medical, as my examiner is a long drive from where I live unfortunately, is this a reasonable safe thing to do?

Regards.

[wb9999]

The ticked box by the examiner (not instructor) will be sufficient. I sent the originals of my forms and medical by recorded delivery, and all was good.

The CAA are very busy with EASA conversions at the moment, so you may be looking at a wait of a couple of months for the licence. They are apparently processing applications from September at the moment. As you're in Hampshire, your best bet may be to spend a day visiting Gatwick and you pick up a new EASA licence within a few hours. There is no extra cost, and you save £6 on the courier charge.

[Dragonlight]

WB,

Thanks for the info, very much appreciated. I'm not to fussed about the turn around time if I'm honest, I'm due to deploy to a hot and sandy paradise with the military for a few months, so hopefully it will be waiting when I get back.

As an aside, it seems I qualify for an Aerobatic rating based on elementary flying training with the military, a rare EASA win!

Thanks again for the kind advice.

Regards.

[PompeyPaul]

Confused

I have just completed SRG 1104 for conversion of my PPL to EASA. My PPL expired 9/9/2012. I am confused by the "English proficiency requirement"?

I thought I simply filled out SRG 1104 and sent in my original license and I was done? How does SRG 1157 come into play?

[wb9999]

SRG 1157 is for a skills test or LPC. It's only needed to renew or revalidate a rating. If your rating is still valid then you don't need 1157 when converting a licence.

For language proficiency, has an examiner signed previously to say you are level 6?

[PompeyPaul]

For language proficiency, has an examiner signed previously to say you are level 6?

I don't believe so. I did my IMC rating last April but don't remember it appearing on any of that paper work. So presumably it isn't a simple trip up to Aviation house with the SRG1104 / Log book (I have night rating so need it for section 7) / and current license?

I need to find somebody to sign me off as level 6?

[claudia]

Hello folks
Have just completed form srg 1104 for conversion of my JAR FCL ppl to EASA. together with certified copies of my medical and ratings revalidation page as per guidance note 3. but now thinking that I need a certified copy of my ID enclosed ie passport. Can anyone advise. Help would be much appreciated.

[Justiciar]

Can anyone confirm what documents are needed with form SRG 1104? An examiner attached to my club revalidated my class rating recently. I don't have a training organisation to certify copies. Can I send the original paperwork, i.e. the revalidation page and medical?

[Whopity]

what documents are needed with form SRG 1104?

This is an 8 page form and all the requirements are clearly listed in Guidance Note 3 on the 8th page marked i of i

GUIDANCE NOTE 1 (above) tells you who can certify documents, if you do not follow that requirement you will either have to send them the original or take it in yourself. I suggest the latter or you will not be able to legally fly until you get it back.

You need the HT of any FTO/ATO, look one up and go see them, there is one on most airfields.