Large scale Multi party action against CASA.

[Up-into-the-air]

CASA and the Senate

I have just had the opportunity to read the submissions [ Parliament of Australia: Senate: Committees: Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport: Inquiry into the Administration of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and related matters ] to the Senate inquiry in mid 2008, which makes for interesting reading. The report is found at: http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committ...ort/report.pdf

The terms of reference were:
Inquiry into the Administration of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) and related matters - Terms of Reference On 29 May 2008, the Senate Standing Committee on Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport resolved, under Standing Order 25(2)(b), to conduct a formal inquiry into the administration of the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and related matters. The proposed reporting date is 9 July 2008.
Noting the Government's announced intention to release a National Aviation Policy Green Paper in the latter half of 2008 and the importance of maintaining Australia's strong aviation safety record, the committee will conduct an inquiry into the administration of CASA and related matters:

• to assess the effectiveness of administrative reforms undertaken by CASA's management since 2003;
• to examine the effectiveness of CASA's governance structure; and
• to consider ways to strengthen CASA's relations with industry and ensure CASA meets community expectations of a firm safety regulator.

The report does not delve as deeply as it should into CASA

[Bell_Flyer]

We all love to kick CASA

I have been ambivalent about CASA (and CAA before that) all my PPL flying life. Then of course, last month, their IT Systems went down (something about ARNs not being attached to medical applications) and my medical has been delayed. So I try to talk to someone senior but get the usual "Telstra" type junior reply - we'll look into it - your call is important to us etc then, "I will call you back - what is your number?"; no one calls, of course. All this, and I pay $75 to them for no joy. Dysfunctional.

Then I buy a new aircraft, mis-fill one character in one of their haplessly designed form and I wait 2 weeks for them to snail mail me instead of using my phone numbers or email addresses on their very own forms which I provided to query me for something very simple. So my aircraft gets delayed in getting registered.

Try calling at 4pm - most of their senior people in CLARC would have gone home. That's my experience. They're a broken down organisation; or at least the 2 parts that I deal with are broken.

[Up-into-the-air]

CASA and Aircraft Registration

My experience goes back some 15 years, where it took some 7 years and three sets of lost papers to transfer registration on my first aircraft correctly.

The later experience was better [2005], but by 2009, the situation turned to the proverbial and it took nearly 6 months to get a new registration transfer correct.

Simply, if CASA can't get one of their prime purposes correct, how can they get anything correct.

[CASAweary]

Friends I know I have already voiced the below concerns, but I need to let Frank know this information in light of the work he is doing on behalf of those abused by CASA.Perhaps the issues are not so much with the airlines but with the regulator ?My sources tell me that CASA staff are bailing in droves. Not the pilots or engineers but the safety system people. One high level melbourne safety system person has gone to jetstar melbourne, one low level melbourne safety system person has also gone to jetstar melbourne. Another brisbane based program leader who was working on the CASA 787 program has also bailed and started with jetstar melbourne as their 787 implementation leader.One low level brisbane safety system person has gone to virgin blue brisbane, one high level safety system peron in sydney has been removed from doing work with virgin blue due to a conflict of interest and replaced with a high level brisbane safety system person who is in negotiation with virgin blue. My question is why all the safety system inspectors ? I hear they earn around $140 000 to $160 000 per year so are the airlines paying them that much or more ? I also heard that a stack of junior staff are bailing as well due to ongoing HR harrassment and have launched civil proceedings against CASA.Seems that there are major issues at the regulator losing all that safety system capacity, a worrying trend and a sign of internal management and HR issues. My concern is with the loss of so many safety sensitive inspectors that safety standards will tumble. The airlines do not want the old inspectors from engineering or flying operations but are pinching the relatively new saftey (past 5 years) inspectors suddenly ? I also hear that senior management have lost the plot and are destroying projects and blowing millions in the process and mismanaging entire departments to the point that staff are leaving or suing. This is not a good look at all and it seems that Albanese is failing the travelling public. My sources who have spent years being mistreated by CASA tell me that the problem execs are in canberra, namely TF, JA and GH and that single handedly they are tearing the organization apart. Staff are organising a vote of no confidence, legal action and union action against TF and GH. What does that tell you all ?

[Frank Arouet]

What does that tell you all ?

It tells me someone has got wind of "NEMESIS".

Being "non-accountable" to The Australian Federal Public Service Commission, may indicate admission of cavalier misuse of process when it is tested against victims claims. Nobody in CASA need fear if there is no blood on their hands.

The others don't have much time left.

[Kharon]

Tick tock

Tick, tock, indeed.

Time to grab the super while you can.

Time to return to industry. Hello boys.

Time to ring CEO' s of legitimate operations at 1 AM, drunk and threatening.

Time to look in the skeleton cupboard.

Tick tock.

[Up-into-the-air]

Just Browsing in the CASA web site

I found the following - refreshing reading!!
Who we are !!!

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) was established on 6 July 1995 as an independent statutory authority. Under section 8 of the Civil Aviation Act 1988, CASA is a body corporate separate from the Commonwealth.
.........

Our Conduct [CASA!!] The community has a right to expect high standards of service based on sound ethical values.
The CASA Code of Conduct states that CASA staff must:

• act honestly and fairly;
• be courteous and helpful;
• comply with all lawful and reasonable instructions given to them by a person entitled to do so; and
• so far as priorities and resources permit, apply the highest possible standards of professionalism in everything they do.

And from the ICC [Independent Industry Commissioner]:

Criminal activity Complaints involving suspected or alleged criminal conduct on the part of a CASA officer should be directed to the Australian Federal Police.

[bankrunner]

CASAweary, the same TF who was allegedly involved in the harassment of a certain operator in WA, went to court, lost, and got promoted?

[33 Disengage]

Up into the Air - from my experience they are not getting any better.

[aroa]

promotions

Like with (Mis) Manager of Compliance and Enforcement or whatever it was called at the time. Didnt get bugger all right, shoot as guiltyfirst, then make up an "investigation" later....so that's worthy of a promotion.???

Now got a fancy new moniker... and no doubt a fancy new pay scale to go with it.

What a sick joke the whole rotten place is.

[Stikybeke]

If you want to read just how bad things are in the rest of the world, go to the Rumours and News forum and check out the post.."IndiGo with more fake pilots."

Simply unbelievable. And you reckon we've got it bad...

Now here's a country with some problems!!!!!

Stiky

[Cactusjack]

Any traction on this?

[Frank Arouet]

Any traction on this?

The concept of a group action was lost to legal demands of cash up front and no central theme to attack. Such is the borderline narcissism and apathy situation the industry faces when you put a mob of "alpha males" into one room. (and females I guess).

CASA have been exploiting this for years and have infiltrated just about every "representative" body established. Indeed they appear to have a "CASA/ PPRune Defense Team" to frustrate things here.

From the group of several hundred responses a Cadre or core of individuals under no organizational structure would appear to have made very successful inroads into The Senate Estimates" hearings. You can see examples on a daily basis of regulatory acts of interference, bastardry, rule changing or misinterpretation, deceit and outright refusal to co-operate, taking questions on notice, stalling, loosing evidence and general deck chair shuffling.

I believe this Cadre of individuals under no structural mantle has achieved more than every "representative organization" has or indeed attempted.

There was a brief time when one of our posters on PPRune actively read and commented on every NPRM put forth and under his stewardship of one "representative organization" did achieve much. He still acts in a private capacity doing the same. Unfortunately he was ridiculed at most every step by pisants who to this day actively try to frustrate his efforts.

In answer to your question, the "movement" evolved into that Cadre and from the hundreds that responded, (including many drones), narrowed things to a task group prepared to do research and write documents for government presentation.

*No Lawyers were hurt in this process. indeed, no Lawyers, including tame ones, made any money out of people already on the verge of CASA induced bankruptcy. (CIB).