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Many Brand new aircraft on order
Exorbitant executives pay rises
Several outstanding EBAs
Lease companys who demand cash
Old aircraft turning away pax
share price going thru the floor
An old adage about when a man's down you kick him
Hold a moment I'm getting ma boots on
Exorbitant executives pay rises
Several outstanding EBAs
Lease companys who demand cash
Old aircraft turning away pax
share price going thru the floor
An old adage about when a man's down you kick him
Hold a moment I'm getting ma boots on
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Classic dropped into ADL this afternoon with a cracked J class window.....
How would they explain that one?
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From memory, outsourced 747-300's
EBW was first
EBV second
EBY just released
Cabin window inspections are part of the D check routine I believe.
Happy to be corrected.
V (below) So yet another problem directly related to outsourcing maintenance to Asian MRO's.
EBW was first
EBV second
EBY just released
Cabin window inspections are part of the D check routine I believe.
Happy to be corrected.
V (below) So yet another problem directly related to outsourcing maintenance to Asian MRO's.
Last edited by Short_Circuit; 30th Mar 2008 at 10:22.
It is very obvious to me that QF was once a great place to work and in days gone by a great airline on which to travel. I have one family member who was an international FA and after 10 years was happy to go, and said the airline she joined was not the same one she left. I still have another family member who is still working for QF.
I am a LAME who lives in Oz but travels to work overseas where I work for an airline there. All my travel is on QF, the only player on this route and I am increasingly being more apprehensive every time I get on board.
There was one occasion where the crew had to do a reboot three times to enable us to depart, a dark cabin puts the wind up the punters, and the captain sounded VERY frustrated as he said the same thing had to be done on the previous sector too.
I had a chat to the CSM and he said the MELs were measured in volumes, not pages. The frustration was evident in the whole crew from the captain down, but everybody did their best to make it a pleasant flight after a 2 hour delay.
A lot of the passengers looked at each other with worried expressions too.
Lately, please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that more than 60% of the QF flights I have travelled on have had some mechanical delay which I attribute to the culture flowing from the management as I know the wonderful people at the coal face are working their guts out because they are total professionals.
I sincerely hope there is not the big one with a huge loss of life as the odds are I could be on it, but it seems with the current management that this is the only thing which will really shake them up. With all the incidents now happening now on a weekly basis we all can only hope and pray.
Please also do not tell me the maintenance done overseas on the QF aircraft is as higher standard as would be done by the Australian LAME's. We call some hangars 'healing centres' because if you park an aircraft there long enough and then wash it, after a flurry of paperwork it is miraculously serviceable again.
There I have now got it off my chest and now the thread can get back on topic.
Prop.
I am a LAME who lives in Oz but travels to work overseas where I work for an airline there. All my travel is on QF, the only player on this route and I am increasingly being more apprehensive every time I get on board.
There was one occasion where the crew had to do a reboot three times to enable us to depart, a dark cabin puts the wind up the punters, and the captain sounded VERY frustrated as he said the same thing had to be done on the previous sector too.
I had a chat to the CSM and he said the MELs were measured in volumes, not pages. The frustration was evident in the whole crew from the captain down, but everybody did their best to make it a pleasant flight after a 2 hour delay.
A lot of the passengers looked at each other with worried expressions too.
Lately, please correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that more than 60% of the QF flights I have travelled on have had some mechanical delay which I attribute to the culture flowing from the management as I know the wonderful people at the coal face are working their guts out because they are total professionals.
I sincerely hope there is not the big one with a huge loss of life as the odds are I could be on it, but it seems with the current management that this is the only thing which will really shake them up. With all the incidents now happening now on a weekly basis we all can only hope and pray.
Please also do not tell me the maintenance done overseas on the QF aircraft is as higher standard as would be done by the Australian LAME's. We call some hangars 'healing centres' because if you park an aircraft there long enough and then wash it, after a flurry of paperwork it is miraculously serviceable again.
There I have now got it off my chest and now the thread can get back on topic.
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You have every right to voice you concerns & complaints but may I
suggest you put it in writing and post it to QF at the Coward St offices, Mascot.
If all the paying pax were to voice their concerns in writing,
then they may have to listen a bit harder and "The Board" may act
to protect the bottom line (and safety)
You have every right to voice you concerns & complaints but may I
suggest you put it in writing and post it to QF at the Coward St offices, Mascot.
If all the paying pax were to voice their concerns in writing,
then they may have to listen a bit harder and "The Board" may act
to protect the bottom line (and safety)
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Had a visitor to the backwoods on last week, I hadn't met him before but the boys said he was from the Lean Team and he looked purdy but he said some crazy things to us in AVV.
Quote " The EBA's not signed off but we can wait no longer time is running out so the SYD Precinct is on track, MEL merger on the cards once the Int. guys agree to new roster, BNE roster change but there will be no extra training in the immediate future or hiring of personnel " Unquote
I almost p!ssed myself "You'll never service the aircraft you don't have enough men especially if you don't train or hire"
Quote " No you're right we don't but we have the no man transit" he smiled and walked off leaving us all in a daze. I asked the boys if they knew what he was talkin bout they shrugged their shoulders and went back to work Im still at a loss
WTF IS THE SYD PRECINCT ? ? ? ? AND WTF IS THE NO MAN TRANSIT ? ? ? ? ? ?
Quote " The EBA's not signed off but we can wait no longer time is running out so the SYD Precinct is on track, MEL merger on the cards once the Int. guys agree to new roster, BNE roster change but there will be no extra training in the immediate future or hiring of personnel " Unquote
I almost p!ssed myself "You'll never service the aircraft you don't have enough men especially if you don't train or hire"
Quote " No you're right we don't but we have the no man transit" he smiled and walked off leaving us all in a daze. I asked the boys if they knew what he was talkin bout they shrugged their shoulders and went back to work Im still at a loss
WTF IS THE SYD PRECINCT ? ? ? ? AND WTF IS THE NO MAN TRANSIT ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Typical egg-head manager, failing to communicate on an understandable level to an audience. Did he ask you to "cross the Bridge of Trust" or tell you to "enter the Intelligent Space"? Did he mention the Four Pillars? 
WTF IS THE SYD PRECINCT ? ? ? ?
The Precinct is the plan to centralise planning of all labour and maintenance in Syd. SIT A330 licenced LAMEs will find themselves working in Base on A330s & A380s, Domestic B737 licences will find themselves doing turnarounds at SIT and Base may do some turnarounds/maintenance at SIT. It's to supposedly better utilise the manpower we have. Good idea in theory. Pity about the cultural differences and geographical separation between the three workplaces. We'll all be tearing our hair out at seeing the way the other half work. "F**KING DOMESTIC C**TS!" say the Base guys, "F**KING BASE C**TS" say the SIT guys, F**KING SIT C**TS!" say the Domestic guys.
We used to plan and do the necessary maintenance well for decades. Then things got changed and it all turned into a **** burrito. So now we're going to refold the tortilla and make it a **** enchilada? I don't get it!
AND WTF IS THE NO MAN TRANSIT ? ? ? ? ? ?
LAMEs no longer do preflight inspections. It's allowable IAW the manufacturer on the Next Gen aircraft (A330 & B738). Not sure how the company gets around the manufacturers recommendation for preflight checks on the ageing classic fleet (B734, B747, B767). Would YOU fly on a 20-year old aircraft without an engineer doing a preflight check? This is gonna be manna from heaven for the union and it's sympathisers in the media. A new and interesting way to panic the bums on seats. Not to mention hastening the advent of a red tail sticking out of the ground somewhere.
WTF IS THE SYD PRECINCT ? ? ? ?
The Precinct is the plan to centralise planning of all labour and maintenance in Syd. SIT A330 licenced LAMEs will find themselves working in Base on A330s & A380s, Domestic B737 licences will find themselves doing turnarounds at SIT and Base may do some turnarounds/maintenance at SIT. It's to supposedly better utilise the manpower we have. Good idea in theory. Pity about the cultural differences and geographical separation between the three workplaces. We'll all be tearing our hair out at seeing the way the other half work. "F**KING DOMESTIC C**TS!" say the Base guys, "F**KING BASE C**TS" say the SIT guys, F**KING SIT C**TS!" say the Domestic guys.
We used to plan and do the necessary maintenance well for decades. Then things got changed and it all turned into a **** burrito. So now we're going to refold the tortilla and make it a **** enchilada? I don't get it!
AND WTF IS THE NO MAN TRANSIT ? ? ? ? ? ?
LAMEs no longer do preflight inspections. It's allowable IAW the manufacturer on the Next Gen aircraft (A330 & B738). Not sure how the company gets around the manufacturers recommendation for preflight checks on the ageing classic fleet (B734, B747, B767). Would YOU fly on a 20-year old aircraft without an engineer doing a preflight check? This is gonna be manna from heaven for the union and it's sympathisers in the media. A new and interesting way to panic the bums on seats. Not to mention hastening the advent of a red tail sticking out of the ground somewhere.
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APRIL FOOLS - A very Bad Omen
I thought it was an April fools joke, but looks like it is not.
After all this time we are back to square one
The offer is a good one and we wont get anymore, there will be pain for all concerned, this is unbelivable, mortages going up, strikes, lockouts will happen , i am very very pis#ed off
What will happen? i can guarantee all that of our jobs will go offshore,
After all this time we are back to square one
The offer is a good one and we wont get anymore, there will be pain for all concerned, this is unbelivable, mortages going up, strikes, lockouts will happen , i am very very pis#ed off
What will happen? i can guarantee all that of our jobs will go offshore,
Not very good trolling Wingers. As a general rule, when there is trouble in financial markets, as there is right now, smart businesses minimise their exposure to overseas markets, or as the saying goes, "keep their money close to home."
It would be an extremely brave (some might even say foolhardy) management who went and outsourced stuff in the middle of a financial meltdown. Home is best. No one knows where the Yuan or the Singapore dollar is going to go next.
It would be an extremely brave (some might even say foolhardy) management who went and outsourced stuff in the middle of a financial meltdown. Home is best. No one knows where the Yuan or the Singapore dollar is going to go next.
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NO to OT bans.
NO to Higher duties ban.
Withdraw form extended rosters is the way to go!!
Bring on the 8 hour rosters!!
NO to Higher duties ban.
Withdraw form extended rosters is the way to go!!
Bring on the 8 hour rosters!!
This post and the one from sickofqf although supportive for a drive on a fairer wage outcome will do the casue harm.
Please understand that the ALAEA is co-ordinating and seeking support from members along a structured path that has been designed by Senior Industrial people so that it does not fail.
To support your wage push, please do not encourage members to vote no in favour of another plan that some members think will work better. I understand that 8 hour rosters would hurt them in fact it may be enough. We need the IA ballot also supported so we have the other options as well.
Two days before we start PIA they offer half a point and a free pair of workboots.
If we only go to 8 hour rosters, the laws will allow them to bring scabs in on 457 visas legally. We already hve Govt. support that they will not allow it if we take PIA. Please do not jeopardise that or tell members that other options are better when this is not true.
I am a full-on supporter of fighting QF, let's just use our best weapon right now!
cheers