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I've seen a Chieftain attempt to take off with full flap one day....
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Crown Range road, above the Crown Terrace, probably still on the hairpins... if you'd gone just a little further you would have got the same shot from directly on the NZQN centreline!
And that tourist route would be between NZQN and NZWF... well past the Arrowtown turn-off
And that tourist route would be between NZQN and NZWF... well past the Arrowtown turn-off
I've seen a Chieftain attempt to take off with full flap one day....
Trust me! A full flap take off in a C402B is no big deal (as long as both fans keep turning), but man does that sucker get off the ground in a hurry!
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Bevan 666:
The long lens makes it look short (and it was minimum landing length) in the Falcon 20 and Falcon 10.
Spectacular scenery and a beautiful spot to visit.
Tmb
The long lens makes it look short (and it was minimum landing length) in the Falcon 20 and Falcon 10.
Spectacular scenery and a beautiful spot to visit.
Tmb
Was it successful?
Was it Birdsville?
Was it me?
Was it Birdsville?
Was it me?
It was successful, but it had the potential to be very bad had a pilot sitting at the holding point watching, not pointed this out to the pilot in question over the radio when it became obvious he had no idea why he was barely climbing and almost continuing back down towards the runway after the gear retraction!
It was at a rather large and well known town approx 800km's North of Birdsville.
morno
Well I can tell you from experience, a Chieftain will get out of Birdsville off the dirt runway with full flap. It won't accelerate much once airborne and it won't climb much until you bleed the flaps up...carefully, but it will do it.
Amazing what last minute distractions can do to you. I'm actually surprised that no-one commented at the time given there was a long line of us leaving after the races.
Amazing what last minute distractions can do to you. I'm actually surprised that no-one commented at the time given there was a long line of us leaving after the races.
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So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular. You must be a great pilot getting these aircraft to perform under extreme conditions????
Grandpa Aerotart
Bevan that is something I pondered doing with mine when the restoration is complete. Sarge was pondering doing the same in reverse in his 185 but then it occurred to us we could just leave our respective aeroplanes where they are and fly each others aircraft when the mood takes. A C185 being the perfect NZ aircraft and the Bonanza being the perfect Aus aircraft.
Would be a fun trip though...care to give us the full run down on your trip?
Would be a fun trip though...care to give us the full run down on your trip?
Here are the notes I made at the time. More pikkies at New Zealand March 2005
24/02/2005 - Departed Moorabbin to Port Macquarie at 4pm. Arrived just after dark and refuelled, ready for tomorrows trip...
25/02/2005 - A beautiful day for flying. Light winds and scattered clouds are forecast all the way to Norfolk. Hopefully the weather will continue on to New Zealand. Had 10 knots of headwinds all the way to Norfolk. A few bumps in the circuit at Lord Howe but no other turbulence to speak of. Lord Howe is beatiful. Glad we are staying two days on the return leg.
26/02/2005 - Another lovely day. We were airborne at 9am for the 3.5 hour leg to Whangarie. The aero club were out to meet us on arrival (along with the friendly customs and MAF staff). Customs searched the plane quite thoroughly after going through Rochelle's passport (and seeing stamps for Jordan, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Liberia etc). Had a lovely flight down the coast to Ardmore (NZ's busiest aerodrome) which is just south of Auckland.
2/03/2005 - Flew Rochelle and Bill around Auckland. Saw where 'The Piano' was filmed.
3/03/2005 - Flew down from Ardmore to Hamilton to visit CTC aviation. Lovely VFR flying weather.
4/03/2005 - Arrived in Masterton via Wanganiu. Filed and flew IFR from Ardmore, due to low cloud and drizzle around Auckland. Cruised down the coast over broken cloud. Wanganiu weather was broken at 4000 ft when we arrived. Windy in Wanganui, but had smooth flying over the Tararua's to Masterton.
5/03/2005 - Staying in a small cottage in Martinborough. Lots of people in the small town for the annual country market.
6/03/2005 - Took Rochelle's Grandmother to see the plane at Masterton Aerodrome and saw Peter Jackson out with his antique WW1 fighter planes out flying. Had our own little airshow!
7/03/2005 - Lots of wind overnight. I must have tied the plane down well as it was still where I left it come Monday morning! phew. Weather will improve tomorrow so we will head down to Christchurch.
8/03/2005 - Arrived at Jackie and James' in Christchurch. Very windy today and there were many bumps flying down from Masterton. Winds were very strong over the Cook Strait, and encountered some interesting mountain waves. Smooth flying, but only could maintain altitude at full power and best rate of climb speed.
10/03/2005 - We are currently in Christchurch. Leave for Wanaka and Queenstown tomorrow. Good weather is predicted so we should get some great views of the mountains.
11/03/2005 - Had a lovely flight over the mountains down to Wanaka and Queenstown on Friday. Had smooth clear conditions, and flew past Mt Cook.
12/03/2005 - Flew around to Milford but was covered in cloud. Flew over the site of my rescue in '99. Flew to Dunedin for lunch and after struggles getting fuel, was back in Queenstown at 6pm.
13/03/2005 - Stayed on the ground! Spent the day driving around Arrowtown, Glenorchy and Queenstown.
14/03/2005 - Another lovely day. Flew from Queenstown to Milford (beat most of the tourist flights out there) and then tracked coastal to Nelson on the north of the South Island. After stopping for fuel and lunch we headed over the Cook Strait to head up the west coast of the North Island back to Ardmore. Need to schedule an oil change for tomorrow then to Lord Howe on Wednesday.
15/03/2005 - Oil change completed this morning by Aero-Tech at Ardmore. Took the plane for a test flight over Auckland on another lovely sunny day.
16/03/2005 - Lovely flying day again. Flew from Auckland up to Whangarei (7:30am departure) at 1500ft coastal. Lovely smooth flying conditions. Customs fellows were there to meet us and we were airborne for Norfolk at 9am. Saw some fishing boats north of Cape Rianga and then nothing until Norfolk Island. We had a about an hour on the ground there (inclusing a nice sandwich from across the road from the terminal) and was soon airborne for Lord Howe. Again nothing was sighted until we reached the island. Senior Sargeant Buckley did your customs and quarrantine clearance and we were soon at the place we were staying. We have bikes!
17/03/2005 - Spent the day cycling and swimming and sleeping and eating on Lord Howe Island.
18/03/2005 - Nice weather at Lord Howe and Melbourne. Shame what was in the middle. A large trough coming down from a tropical cyclone up north spewed a lot of very bumpy wet clouds in our way. We spent 2 hours in cloud off the coast of australia, and then popped in the clear near Sydney. We landed at Wollongong for fuel and lunch (food in the terminal - yay!) and then neaded off on the last leg to Melbourne. We were on top of solid cloud at 10000ft. Did not see much of the Australian alps at all (we flew past mount cook on Monday). A VFR arrival into Moorabbin and we were home again...
24/02/2005 - Departed Moorabbin to Port Macquarie at 4pm. Arrived just after dark and refuelled, ready for tomorrows trip...
25/02/2005 - A beautiful day for flying. Light winds and scattered clouds are forecast all the way to Norfolk. Hopefully the weather will continue on to New Zealand. Had 10 knots of headwinds all the way to Norfolk. A few bumps in the circuit at Lord Howe but no other turbulence to speak of. Lord Howe is beatiful. Glad we are staying two days on the return leg.
26/02/2005 - Another lovely day. We were airborne at 9am for the 3.5 hour leg to Whangarie. The aero club were out to meet us on arrival (along with the friendly customs and MAF staff). Customs searched the plane quite thoroughly after going through Rochelle's passport (and seeing stamps for Jordan, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Liberia etc). Had a lovely flight down the coast to Ardmore (NZ's busiest aerodrome) which is just south of Auckland.
2/03/2005 - Flew Rochelle and Bill around Auckland. Saw where 'The Piano' was filmed.
3/03/2005 - Flew down from Ardmore to Hamilton to visit CTC aviation. Lovely VFR flying weather.
4/03/2005 - Arrived in Masterton via Wanganiu. Filed and flew IFR from Ardmore, due to low cloud and drizzle around Auckland. Cruised down the coast over broken cloud. Wanganiu weather was broken at 4000 ft when we arrived. Windy in Wanganui, but had smooth flying over the Tararua's to Masterton.
5/03/2005 - Staying in a small cottage in Martinborough. Lots of people in the small town for the annual country market.
6/03/2005 - Took Rochelle's Grandmother to see the plane at Masterton Aerodrome and saw Peter Jackson out with his antique WW1 fighter planes out flying. Had our own little airshow!
7/03/2005 - Lots of wind overnight. I must have tied the plane down well as it was still where I left it come Monday morning! phew. Weather will improve tomorrow so we will head down to Christchurch.
8/03/2005 - Arrived at Jackie and James' in Christchurch. Very windy today and there were many bumps flying down from Masterton. Winds were very strong over the Cook Strait, and encountered some interesting mountain waves. Smooth flying, but only could maintain altitude at full power and best rate of climb speed.
10/03/2005 - We are currently in Christchurch. Leave for Wanaka and Queenstown tomorrow. Good weather is predicted so we should get some great views of the mountains.
11/03/2005 - Had a lovely flight over the mountains down to Wanaka and Queenstown on Friday. Had smooth clear conditions, and flew past Mt Cook.
12/03/2005 - Flew around to Milford but was covered in cloud. Flew over the site of my rescue in '99. Flew to Dunedin for lunch and after struggles getting fuel, was back in Queenstown at 6pm.
13/03/2005 - Stayed on the ground! Spent the day driving around Arrowtown, Glenorchy and Queenstown.
14/03/2005 - Another lovely day. Flew from Queenstown to Milford (beat most of the tourist flights out there) and then tracked coastal to Nelson on the north of the South Island. After stopping for fuel and lunch we headed over the Cook Strait to head up the west coast of the North Island back to Ardmore. Need to schedule an oil change for tomorrow then to Lord Howe on Wednesday.
15/03/2005 - Oil change completed this morning by Aero-Tech at Ardmore. Took the plane for a test flight over Auckland on another lovely sunny day.
16/03/2005 - Lovely flying day again. Flew from Auckland up to Whangarei (7:30am departure) at 1500ft coastal. Lovely smooth flying conditions. Customs fellows were there to meet us and we were airborne for Norfolk at 9am. Saw some fishing boats north of Cape Rianga and then nothing until Norfolk Island. We had a about an hour on the ground there (inclusing a nice sandwich from across the road from the terminal) and was soon airborne for Lord Howe. Again nothing was sighted until we reached the island. Senior Sargeant Buckley did your customs and quarrantine clearance and we were soon at the place we were staying. We have bikes!
17/03/2005 - Spent the day cycling and swimming and sleeping and eating on Lord Howe Island.
18/03/2005 - Nice weather at Lord Howe and Melbourne. Shame what was in the middle. A large trough coming down from a tropical cyclone up north spewed a lot of very bumpy wet clouds in our way. We spent 2 hours in cloud off the coast of australia, and then popped in the clear near Sydney. We landed at Wollongong for fuel and lunch (food in the terminal - yay!) and then neaded off on the last leg to Melbourne. We were on top of solid cloud at 10000ft. Did not see much of the Australian alps at all (we flew past mount cook on Monday). A VFR arrival into Moorabbin and we were home again...
So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular. You must be a great pilot getting these aircraft to perform under extreme conditions????
So Peter F was that you that took off the other day with the Props still at cruise setting cause that was really spectacular.
DF.
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C'mon Tinny, back in those days venison was a very expensive smell.Got even more expensive when we started live capture.
A venison pilot in the 60s was told he couldnt use a hollowed log bathtub on a strip cos he stank too feckin' much
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I find this thread just sooooo refreshing. Whenever I tire of the sniping and bitching in the other Downunder threads I come to this one and have my faith in Pilots who obviously love to fly restored, it's just bloody good stuff.
Who was it said enjoy the journey that Aviation gives you and make sure you take plenty of photos (perhaps it was me). I have a few lasting photographic memories but not enough after 20 odd years of flying, they have tended to be get scattered all over the house in various storage places. I will be buying a decent digital camera soon and make sure I take plenty more and use the old Pewter as a photo albumn. I guess I will have to learn to drive the camera first (I am still trying to master my I-Pod). Yes you guessed it I am not of the generation Y ilk. But I can work an FMS sort of.
Who was it said enjoy the journey that Aviation gives you and make sure you take plenty of photos (perhaps it was me). I have a few lasting photographic memories but not enough after 20 odd years of flying, they have tended to be get scattered all over the house in various storage places. I will be buying a decent digital camera soon and make sure I take plenty more and use the old Pewter as a photo albumn. I guess I will have to learn to drive the camera first (I am still trying to master my I-Pod). Yes you guessed it I am not of the generation Y ilk. But I can work an FMS sort of.