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NutLoose 16th April 2024 08:06

But didn’t Biden say he wouldn’t sign one without the other..

more delaying tactics.

Uberteknik 16th April 2024 09:06


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11636459)
But didn’t Biden say he wouldn’t sign one without the other..

more delaying tactics.

One could incorrectly myopically view it that way. A better explanation is that splitting the packages means one package (Israeli aid) is more likely to get through simply because a good number of senators, politicians and influencers happen to be Jewish. Not so many of Ukraine's people are members of the US Congress.

Biden can see what would happen and is therefore saying he wants Ukraine aid to get through as well and the only way to do that is to make one a condition for the other else Ukraine will slip down the collective agenda.

This is therefore all the result of the Republicans blocking the full aid package by linking it to the Mexican border issues and MAGA rhetoric to buy votes for this year's elections.

NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:13

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7e5b47c1e1.jpg

NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:16

Some sense talking.


NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:18

They have destroyed a long range Russian radar system.


NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:24

New from the UAE and co developed by Ukraine, a stealthy sub that can carry troops and launch torpedoes, they do not know if Ukraine will be able to get access to them.... It looks like an updated version of Seaviews flying sub.



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....720113ae60.jpg



NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:29

Another of Russia systematic destruction of a city in progress.. :(




bugged on the right 16th April 2024 11:29

Wasn't a Russian missile warship being positioned in the Gulf to lend some support to Iran? Perhaps this submarine could carry out some early sea trials?

NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:36

Ukraine to receive 5 minesweepers from NATO, two already from the UK and in training in the UK and three from the Netherlands and Belgium.



NutLoose 16th April 2024 11:43

Says it all and so much for the we will do whatever it takes promise.


Zelenskyy: "Ukraine will not have a chance to win the war without the assistance of the United States. The artillery ratio on the front today is 1 to 10, and the aviation ratio is 1 to 30," he said in an interview with PBS.

jolihokistix 16th April 2024 11:46

Old proverbs come alive in life-and-death situations.

"Actions speak louder than words!"

Wokkafans 16th April 2024 13:51


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11636633)
Ukraine to receive 5 minesweepers from NATO, two already from the UK and in training in the UK and three from the Netherlands and Belgium.



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...83178045386920



https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...18014919061592


"We're going to need a bigger helicopter."


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....378f384311.png

NutLoose 16th April 2024 15:13

Aviation content:
We appear to have missed this one, during a possible Ukrainian attack they hit a military Beriev BE-200 flying boat and blew the wing off it.


In the left image you can see how the intact Beriev Be-200 of the Russian Naval Aviation looks like. In the right one we can see that the part of the wing has been blown off (red arrow), the remains are lying on the tarmac. I think the under-wing float might be there too (blue).

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a7cb596cf0.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b8db498e2a.jpg






Beamr 16th April 2024 15:52

The campaign in Africa is not going according to plan for Afrika Korps.

Now there's a phrase that wasn't on my bingo card for 2024 :E

How sad, never mind.



NutLoose 16th April 2024 16:52

He may be under a cloud now, but he may end up under a flyover when he returns.

ORAC 16th April 2024 17:01

NEW: The current US debate about providing additional military assistance to Ukraine is based in part on the assumption that the war will remain stalemated regardless of US actions.

That assumption is false. Russian advances will accelerate absent urgent American action. 🧵(1/8)

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...548570818.html

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ing-russia-win

AMERICA’S STARK CHOICE IN UKRAINE AND THE COST OF LETTING RUSSIA WIN

tdracer 16th April 2024 17:48


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11636619)
It looks like an updated version of Seaviews flying sub.

You 're showing your age Nutty :E
Heck, I'm not sure I would have even caught the reference if I'd not recently watched an episode of "Voyage to the Bottom" - couldn't believe how stupid it was as an adult...

NutLoose 16th April 2024 17:49


TOP NEWS TODAYUkraine will increase the range of "Neptune" missile to 1.000 km,180.000 artillery shells on contract for delivery in soon,
The increased range will come in handy.

Lonewolf_50 16th April 2024 17:59


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11636829)
You 're showing your age Nutty :E
Heck, I'm not sure I would have even caught the reference if I'd not recently watched an episode of "Voyage to the Bottom" - couldn't believe how stupid it was as an adult...

I caught the reference. :cool: It looks a bit like a manta ray.

NutLoose 16th April 2024 18:00


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11636829)
You 're showing your age Nutty :E
Heck, I'm not sure I would have even caught the reference if I'd not recently watched an episode of "Voyage to the Bottom" - couldn't believe how stupid it was as an adult...

it does have that look about it with a smattering of the Spindrift thrown in. ;)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....60d5630c0.jpeg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9697ec565.jpeg



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