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Originally Posted by CurlyB
(Post 11900046)
Originally Posted by DogTailRed2 What we are seeing is inevitable. Iran was developing nuclear weapons and would have used them. Israel is doing what the west was afraid to do. Iran has threatened Israel with total destuction - it is their stated aim Israel has prevented that since 1948 - in various ways If Iran gets the 'bomb' it won't just be Israel who is in the potential firinf line Saudi Arabia, Kuwait et al will not be happy with that - but they do not have the capacity to stop that process Only the US or Israel can militarily prevent that happening It is better to stop them getting the 'bomb' than trying to prevent them from using it Many countries have tested their bombs to demonstrate that the have the capability It is unfortunate that the US chose to 'test' theirs on live subjects - but they were different times Just my thoughts on a very long running subject ... |
There's been a long running belief that Saudi (and Taiwan, S Korea & Japan) has the knowledge to build a bomb quite quickly - and of course they have the $$$$ as well
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11900395)
There's been a long running belief that Saudi (and Taiwan, S Korea & Japan) has the knowledge to build a bomb quite quickly - and of course they have the $$$$ as well
I wonder where they are now? :E |
The top Iranian Air Force gathered to plan a missile attack on Israel and was eliminated during the meeting. - Mossad Commentary (not official account)
On the strikes against IRGC Air Force leadership: Israel tricked the top command of Iran’s air force into a meeting and then kept them there, I’m told by an Israeli security official. “We did specific activities to help us understand things about them and then used that information to make them act in a specific way,” the official said. “We knew this would make them meet, but more importantly we knew how to keep them there.” - Fox News - Trey Yingst Chief Foreign Correspondent (on ground in Israel) |
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MiG-29 & F-5 base
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Mossad behind the lines
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IDF B-707 AAR of F-16I over Syria
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F-16Is armed with 2 AIM-9L/M & 2 x Python 4 (4th Gen / all-aspect / Helmet Mounted Sight capability)
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F-35I prior to launch - in stealth mode with no external stores
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Each F-16I can be seen armed with a max fuel tank loadout, (likely) 8x GBU-39 SDB glide bombs, and 2x AIM-120B AMRAAMs. 48 glide bombs in this image.
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Bushehr - main port in Iran hit
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President Trump's Security Council Meeting in the White House Situation Room due to start at 1100 EDT / 1500Z
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Not a lot of use if they're trapped inside because the entrances have been blocked
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US destroyers being ordered to the Eastern Med - starting with Arleigh-Burke Flight IIA Technology Insertion Class USS Thomas Hudner with 96 x VLS cells for the full range of SAMs including SM-3 ABM
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I wonder how and at what point Russia will assist their Iranian allies. I doubt it will be militarilly, but I assume assymetrically. So intelligence gathering and relaying and possibly subversion and terrorist assistance.
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Fox News Trey Yingst
Additional details from an Israeli security source: When the initial wave was launched, that included the targeting of IRGC leadership and scientists, more than 20 sites were hit in less than 15 minutes amid solely at taking out these individuals. The Israelis ramped up intel gathering over the past year, preparing for this moment. They identified exact apartments and offices of their targets. The strikes were more successful than the Israelis expected they would be, I'm told. |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11900640)
I wonder how and at what point Russia will assist their Iranian allies. I doubt it will be militarilly, but I assume assymetrically. So intelligence gathering and relaying and possibly subversion and terrorist assistance.
They cant even prosecute their own back yard scrap of a Civil War Who are they going to subvert and terrorise - they could, in one move go from SMO to all out war They couldn't even assist the previous Syrian regime They will not risk that - Russia is a busted flush If we did but know it, they probably always have been |
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
(Post 11900647)
Fox News Trey Yingst
Additional details from an Israeli security source: When the initial wave was launched, that included the targeting of IRGC leadership and scientists, more than 20 sites were hit in less than 15 minutes amid solely at taking out these individuals. The Israelis ramped up intel gathering over the past year, preparing for this moment. They identified exact apartments and offices of their targets. The strikes were more successful than the Israelis expected they would be, I'm told. What goes around comes around |
Originally Posted by beardy
(Post 11900640)
I wonder how and at what point Russia will assist their Iranian allies. I doubt it will be militarilly, but I assume assymetrically. So intelligence gathering and relaying and possibly subversion and terrorist assistance.
Be a shame if Israel happened to strike the Iranian drone making facilities that are being utilized against Ukraine. |
Drones being built to operate in Ukraine can also be used against Israel - why not destroy them while you are there
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Originally Posted by Deep Throat
(Post 11900658)
Drones being built to operate in Ukraine can also be used against Israel - why not destroy them while you are there
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Gotta admit, shades of the Six Day War.in 1967. Especially hitting the port.
Gums reflects... |
Iran's 2 x drone motherships moved out of port to escape air attacks - 6km off coast. Perhaps an IDF SSK will ignore the 22km territorial limit
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Originally Posted by DogTailRed2
(Post 11900668)
Iran is an ally of Russia. Russia is not an ally of Iran. To quote Al Capone, "friends are there to walk on as your heading for the top".
Iran is a country which could do with joining the rest of the World in the 21st Century and be nice to its neighbours - it would be good for all of us |
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
(Post 11900691)
Iran's 2 x drone motherships moved out of port to escape air attacks - 6km off coast. Perhaps an IDF SSK will ignore the 22km territorial limit
The final approach looks as if it could be a little hazardous Then again Kamikaze pilots were never trained to lower the hook ... and what the hell is that? Run silent run deep it will not .... a pingers wet dream |
Originally Posted by Deep Throat
(Post 11900717)
... and what the hell is that?
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Originally Posted by Deep Throat
(Post 11900649)
With what? And how?
They will not risk that - Russia is a busted flush If we did but know it, they probably always have been |
Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09
(Post 11900731)
IDF Dolphin II SSK - they have 5 x Dolphin I + II Class - carries both torpedoes and SLCMs
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 11900735)
But the are an existential threat to the whole of Europe, about to march in...
They will need a lot of looking after once they get here |
Originally Posted by Deep Throat
(Post 11900716)
Iran is a country which could do with joining the rest of the World in the 21st Century and be nice to its neighbours - it would be good for all of us
June 13 (Reuters) - Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is alive and is being continuously briefed about the situation, a security source told Reuters, following an Israeli attack on Iran early on Friday. |
The one thing we can be sure of now - there will be no nuclear retaliation tonight
There may be a price to pay but you can be sure the Saudis will be relieved that Israel has removed the nuclear threat for now |
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