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West Coast 13th June 2025 18:02


Originally Posted by Deep Throat (Post 11900747)
The one thing we can be sure of now - there will be no nuclear retaliation tonight

There may be a price to pay but you can be sure the Saudis will be relieved that Israel has removed the nuclear threat for now

My concern with parsing the timeline for a strike down to weeks prior to possessing a nuke is that they were wrong and it was actually a few weeks ago and now Iran has a nuke in the basement.

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:03

F-35Is - stealth mode - no external stores

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtV47baW...jpg&name=large

Expatrick 13th June 2025 18:06


Originally Posted by Deep Throat (Post 11900716)

Iran is a country which could do with joining the rest of the World in the 21st Century and be nice to its neighbours - it would be good for all of us

Most certainly not an ambition of the current Iranian leadership.

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:08

Missile launches from Iran detected against Israel now

Targeting population areas - Trey Yingst & Fox News covering live from Tel Aviv

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtV87YMW...g&name=900x900

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:25

Multiple Iron Dome ABM launches - at least one Iranian TBM has got through and hit Tel Aviv


RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:28

Pentagon - about 100 x TBM fired in this first wave against against Israel

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:47

7 x locations in Tel Aviv hit by mixture of TBMs and interception debris from first wave of 100+ - 2nd wave underway now

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtWCFSLX...pg&name=medium

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 18:57

Iran claims to have shot down a F-35I and captured the female pilot - may be propaganda - IDF denying it at present

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 19:30


Max Angle 13th June 2025 20:07

About the only thing the strikes on Iran will guarantee is that they will now be going all out to manufacture a nuclear weapon.

BRUpax 13th June 2025 20:11


Originally Posted by Max Angle (Post 11900857)
About the only thing the strikes on Iran will guarantee is that they will now be going all out to manufacture a nuclear weapon.

No! They will try to go all out to manufacture a nuclear weapon. Their progress will be monitored and then again destroyed by Israel.

CurlyB 13th June 2025 20:12


Originally Posted by Max Angle (Post 11900857)
About the only thing the strikes on Iran will guarantee is that they will now be going all out to manufacture a nuclear weapon.

Can you blame them, when's the last time North Korea got bombed. Gaddafi learnt the hard way

Gordon Brown 13th June 2025 20:49


Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09 (Post 11900488)
F-15I carrying GBU-31(V) 2000-lb JDAMs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtUWeZIX...jpg&name=large

I don't think that's an F-15I. Looks like a single seat F-15C. Interesting that it has an air-to-surface capability.

RAFEngO74to09 13th June 2025 21:12


Originally Posted by Gordon Brown (Post 11900884)
I don't think that's an F-15I. Looks like a single seat F-15C. Interesting that it has an air-to-surface capability.

You're right - it is a F-15A or F-15C - IDF has F-15A-D all upgraded to allow air to ground know as Baz (Falcon). I have amended my caption.
Described here: https://www.twz.com/these-are-the-be...weve-ever-seen

garyscott 13th June 2025 21:16


Originally Posted by Gordon Brown (Post 11900884)
I don't think that's an F-15I. Looks like a single seat F-15C. Interesting that it has an air-to-surface capability.

All F-15C’s have a limited A/G capability, the Israeli “Baz” have a slightly expanded A/G ability due to local upgrades.
Nowhere near F-15E abilities, but a bit more than USAF F-15C (hardly ever used) are capable of.

spinex 13th June 2025 21:21


Originally Posted by RAFEngO74to09 (Post 11900796)
7 x locations in Tel Aviv hit by mixture of TBMs and interception debris from first wave of 100+ - 2nd wave underway now

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtWCFSLX...pg&name=medium

Strikes me, that if the only response you can muster to sucessful attacks on multiple military installations, is to dump some ordinance on a major civilian centre, you're stuck neatly behind the 8 ball. One could make a similar observation about Russia's response to the recent Ukranian raids.

Captain Dart 13th June 2025 21:28

Yes. Reminiscent of a deranged and desperate Hitler's use of the V-weapons on London.

Una Due Tfc 13th June 2025 21:35

Using Saddam's tactics from 35 odd years ago.

RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 00:29

Iranian MiG-29 and Su-24 base at Mehrabad hit



RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 00:31

Iran will target the regional bases of any country that defends Israel - Senior Iranian official to CNN

fitliker 14th June 2025 00:38

Can’t wait to be entertained by their version of Baghdad Bob .
From screaming Death to _______ (fill in the blank ) To Death from _______

Bob Viking 14th June 2025 07:02

F35
 
So do we think there’s any truth in the claims that two F35s were shot down last night?

BV

TWT 14th June 2025 07:20

No.
There's no mention of it on the Press TV homepage, or on Al Jazeera. I would think there'd at least be
a story in both of those publications and some pictures if it were true.

Bob Viking 14th June 2025 08:14

F35s
 
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-clai...tacks-13383379

Sky are the first western source (that I have noticed) to mention it. Israel have denied it. It would be very embarrassing if it subsequently turned out to be true.

BV

dead_pan 14th June 2025 08:19

It was noted on the Guardian's feed yesterday, along with the Israeli denial. One would imagine the Iranians would release some footage of the wreck and/or captured pilot PDQ given its propaganda value, so I reckon if we hear nothing more today it probably is BS.

Deep Throat 14th June 2025 08:38


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11901238)
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-clai...tacks-13383379

Sky are the first western source (that I have noticed) to mention it. Israel have denied it. It would be very embarrassing if it subsequently turned out to be true.

BV

What has the IAF policy been in the past? Downed jet? Tank crews? Hostages?

I think they get the message out fast - particularly if women are involved - maybe my recollection is wrong

TWT 14th June 2025 08:41

Iran state media site Fars News Agency posted it and claimed it to be true. We'll see.


BANANASBANANAS 14th June 2025 09:11


Originally Posted by TWT (Post 11901265)
Iran state media site Fars News Agency posted it and claimed it to be true. We'll see.

Well, to slightly misquote Cynthia Payne ‘They would say that, wouldn’t they!’

NutLoose 14th June 2025 09:30

The US has possibly shot down a Iranian ballistic missile

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BEagle 14th June 2025 11:26


Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS (Post 11901291)
Well, to slightly misquote Cynthia Payne ‘They would say that, wouldn’t they!’

Mandy Rice-Davies, surely?

West Coast 14th June 2025 11:57


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11901238)
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-clai...tacks-13383379

Sky are the first western source (that I have noticed) to mention it. Israel have denied it. It would be very embarrassing if it subsequently turned out to be true.

BV

I would think that in short order, wreckage and/or crew or their remains would be paraded out by the Iranians if true.

Bob Viking 14th June 2025 12:02

F35
 
I also think it is very unlikely to be true. I just found it interesting that Sky picked it up despite denials from Israel. I was not so surprised by the numerous other sources that carried the story.

BV

BANANASBANANAS 14th June 2025 12:30


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11901376)
Mandy Rice-Davies, surely?

You may well be right!

Deep Throat 14th June 2025 12:36


Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS (Post 11901441)
You may well be right!

A claim to fame ... quoting old hookers .... accurately :ok:


"Well he would, wouldn't he?"

Stephen Ward was found guilty of living off the earnings of prostitution, from money obtained from Rice-Davies and Keeler among others, at a trial instigated after the embarrassment caused to the government.

While being cross-examined at Ward's trial, when James Burge, the defence counsel, pointed out that Lord Astor denied an affair or even having met her, she dispatched this swiftly with pert humour, "Well he would, wouldn't he?"

Often misquoted in other contexts as: "Well he would say that, wouldn't he?",[9] by 1979, this phrase had entered the third edition of the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, and is occasionally referred to with the abbreviation MRDA ("Mandy Rice-Davies applies").

RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 14:05


RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 14:17

IDF has achieved air superiority over Tehran after strikes by 70+ aircraft on 40 air defense sites - IDF

Bob Viking 14th June 2025 14:30

IDF BDA
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....66bc8be6f.jpeg

It’s great that the IDF show images from strikes.

(BV)


RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 15:10


SPICE-1000 have a glide range of up to 100km

RAFEngO74to09 14th June 2025 15:53


Bob Viking 14th June 2025 18:37

UK Jets
 
The UK is sending more FJs to ‘the Middle East’ region. I assume they mean Cyprus.

BV


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