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Winemaker 24th April 2026 17:40


Originally Posted by artee (Post 12075477)
I think he means paying people to die so the US Forces don't have to. Maybe Wagner Group would be interested.

Of course I understood that. My point was it would take a very large mercenary force to have more effect than the current U.S. attacks; the United States has not signed the 1989 United Nations Mercenary Convention.

fdr 24th April 2026 18:28

As long as there is still a sense of humour, perhaps things are not so bad... :}


Recc 24th April 2026 19:15


Originally Posted by Hangarless (Post 12075817)
The drug runners in the Caribbean ,who the media like to refer to as "poor fisherman" have found out that disguising themselves by using a fishing boats does not end well for them.

Completely different. Drug-runners are easy to distinguish from fishing fleets from patterns of movement. Littoral fishing vessels do not cover huge distances and tend to spend a lot of time at very low speed, very much like small mine laying craft.

larssnowpharter 24th April 2026 22:11

The USA military logistics effort in this war is staggering. I've worked within the system and, while I have seen faults, am sometimes in awe at its almost unstoppable capability.

As Napoleon Bonaparte said:
"The amateurs discuss tactics - the professionals discuss logistics."

Here's the latest from Sam discussing the USN logistics effort in the Gulf and Indian Ocean. Someone who knows what he is talking about and well worth a watch.


Lonewolf_50 24th April 2026 22:31

I can't believe we only have two fast combat stores ships. We used to have amost a dozen.
lars, that's a great video. Thanks.
Sal gets maritime logistics.

Like Sal, some years ago I submitted an essay to USNI and it was rejected. :p

larssnowpharter 24th April 2026 22:52

You think that's bad; back in the early 80s I submitted an article for RUSI predicting the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yes, it was rejected!
I turned my focus to the Punic Wars and the transition of Rome from a Republic.

Lonewolf_50 24th April 2026 23:00


Originally Posted by lars
back in the early 80s I submitted an article for RUSI predicting the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yes, it was rejected!

Too bad there wasn't an internet betting site for you to post a wager upon! :eek:

gums 24th April 2026 23:12

Salute!

Yep Lars and Wolf, et al, the big tail truly wags the dog.

Besides super fying my last two or three years, I was the ops plan weenie, DOX, for my wing and worked closely with LGX, the logistics plan toad down the hall. Learned a lot as we both had to work with the base folks as we were a tenant unit and ops-oriented, while they were a huge logistics/depot level maintenance center. If you guessed Hill, free beer at my patio one day.

The U.S. developed a super logistics infrastructure simply cause we were a coupla thousand miles from the wars! Duuhhhh. Hell, the Limey dudes paddle thirty miles to the enemy for two world wars plus several in the 18th century. That factor also helped us being fairly isolationistic until after the secon" od big one. Anyway, by the time of Korea we had developed a very effective, competent logistic capability. It was magnified during the cold war as most of our units in the states were subject to "mobility" tasking. My job and my cohort's was to get 24 jets ready to launch in 24 hours for a cross the pond flight to Norway.

So no wonder, Lars. And we are still that prepared.

Gums sends...

GlobalNav 24th April 2026 23:53


Originally Posted by Hangarless (Post 12075839)
He said this morning, I do believe ,that the small fast boats in the Strait will be getting the same treatment that is given in the Caribbean.

Who really knows what surveillance ability and intelligence gathering is available to the US but my bet is that it is quite substantial.

It seems incredible that the fast boats were not detected before they took action against the ships. Why were they allowed to do what they did? Why aren’t the IRGC crews feeding the fishes right now?

fdr 25th April 2026 00:53

Seems the WH can at least turn to Mr T's make Vlad for assistance, after all, he has been invited by the incumbent in the WH to Miami for the G-20 meet later this year, the administrations position on an indicted war criminal seems to be pretty flakey. Flicking a middle finger at the ICC is a routine occurrence, and to be expected, but it does look pretty odd when for the last 10 years Mr T has been actively working against NATO, EU, UK, and various other democracies, the same ones that are being cajoled for being rather reticent in sending boots and boats and planes to the GoH to assist in the unscrambling of the expedition that the Benny and Don show put on for the global economy.

Thank goodness that Mr T won on day one, which does make it curious as to why there is a need for anything else to be done.

The Stop/Go signs on the status of the Straits, negotiations, cease fire, etc may need to carry a flicker vertigo warning.

So, hopefully Mr T and Mr P's warm fuzzies for each other will at least cure the issue, will be a blast to see Russia resurrect their fleet from the bottom of the Black Sea, scrape off the barnacles and join the USN in doing the business in great (read: Iranian, Omani, UAE) waters.

LW50; bet ya didn't think the day would come when your Prez had more time for the would be Tzar than NATO. Can't say it makes me overly happy.


https://www.tickcounter.com/countup/...nvaded-ukraine

petit plateau 25th April 2026 06:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 12075762)
Ceasefire or basically screwed.. the US appear to be running low on weapons.



https://x.com/CSIS/status/2046944043226018068

Trump is certainly making sure the next US president has fewer options.

(And that the Europeans will definitely be buying closer to home)

ORAC 25th April 2026 09:35

ISW report:

Iran Update:

Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Commander Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi and his inner circle have repeatedly blocked attempts by Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and other “pragmatist” officials to push the regime toward a more flexible negotiating position. Vahidi appears to have prevailed in this internal power struggle and will likely shape the regime’s approach toward negotiations and the war with a maximalist and uncompromising stance.

Ghalibaf likely lacks the leverage to alter this trajectory in a meaningful way at this time. Recent reports that Ghalibaf may resign from being a member of the negotiating team are consistent with ISW-CTP’s assessment that Vahidi has emerged as the winner of the intra-regime rivalry.

Sources told Western media that Ghalibaf has grown frustrated with internal divisions and has considered resigning from the negotiating delegation, while some outlets have claimed that Ghalibaf has already resigned from the negotiating team due to disagreements over nuclear concessions.


“Pragmatist” officials may continue to advocate for a more flexible approach, but their efforts are unlikely to meaningfully shape regime decision-making in the near term.

Vahidi’s apparent victory will likely have significant implications for potential future US-Iran negotiations. Vahidi has also shown greater willingness than “pragmatist” officials to accept the risk of renewed conflict with the United States.


Wyntor 25th April 2026 15:11

BBC reporting that senior Iranian MP has stated that if US attacks Iranian infrastructure then Iran will do likewise other regional countries.

Leaves the US in an interesting position. Stand fast the obvious that anyone attacking civil infrastructure such as water supplies or electricity would be committing a war crime - it sets out a tricky conundrum. If US attacks Iran as per No 47's approach it could result in UAE or Qatar or other allies losing their water supplies.

Who would want to be trying to square that circle?

Who would want to be the general dancing on the head of a pin trying to justify that orders, received or given, were actually legal?


T28B 25th April 2026 15:29


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 12075997)
LW50; bet ya didn't think the day would come when your Prez had more time for the would be Tzar than NATO. Can't say it makes me overly happy.

While this was not directed to me, I believe that I can speak on behalf of everyone who posts on the PPRuNe Military Aviation subforum and say that it makes none of us happy.

Winemaker 25th April 2026 16:36

From the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/25/u...n-nuclear.html


As nuclear talks restart in Pakistan this weekend, President Trump will confront the complicated legacy of his own decision, eight years ago, to cancel what he has called “a horrible, one-sided deal.”

That Obama-era agreement suffered from flaws and omissions. It would have expired after 15 years, leaving Iran free after 2030 to make as much nuclear fuel as it wanted. But once Mr. Trump withdrew from the deal in 2018, the Iranians went on an enrichment spree much sooner, leaving them closer to a bomb than ever before.

Now, Mr. Trump’s negotiators are dealing with the consequences of that decision, which he made over the objections of many of his national security advisers at the time.

Much recent attention has focused on Iran’s half ton of uranium that has been enriched to a level just shy of what is typically used in atom bombs. The majority of it is thought to be buried in a tunnel complex that Mr. Trump bombed last June. But those 970 pounds of potential bomb fuel represent only a small fraction of the problem.

Today, international inspectors say, Iran has a total of 11 tons of uranium, at various enrichment levels. With further purification, that is enough to build up to 100 nuclear weapons — more than the estimated size of Israel’s arsenal.

Virtually all of that cache accumulated in the years after Mr. Trump abandoned the Obama-era deal. That is because Tehran lived up to its pledge to ship to Russia 12.5 tons of its overall stockpile, about 97 percent. Iran’s weapon designers were left with too little nuclear fuel to build a single bomb.

Sobelena 25th April 2026 17:15

BBC reporting that Trump has now cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's trip to Pakistan.

What an absolute circus the Trump administration is. Just how long is this dismal clown act going to go on for?

Wyntor 25th April 2026 18:13


Originally Posted by Sobelena (Post 12076358)
BBC reporting that Trump has now cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's trip to Pakistan.

What an absolute circus the Trump administration is. Just how long is this dismal clown act going to go on for?

If it wasn't so serious, it would be funny watching the White House clown show getting handed their backside by the Iranians.

I have no idea how they get out this cluster, other than declaring victory, going home and starting some other crisis somewhere to deflect.

As far as I can see there are no good military options that result in anything that looks like a victory.

DogTailRed2 25th April 2026 18:24

What happens if the Strait never opens? We just run out of oil?

Less Hair 25th April 2026 19:21

China might come to open it? It needs that oil the most urgent.

Bfah 25th April 2026 19:24


Originally Posted by Sobelena (Post 12076358)
BBC reporting that Trump has now cancelled Witkoff and Kushner's trip to Pakistan.

Could be linked to what ORAC posted in 5532 about confusion in the ranks of who has the authority to talk.

'...Sources told Western media that Ghalibaf has grown frustrated with internal divisions and has considered resigning from the negotiating delegation, while some outlets have claimed that Ghalibaf has already resigned from the negotiating team due to disagreements over nuclear concessions....'.

Trump on his social media saying stuff like, that no one is in charge and no one knows who is in charge, so no point going to the ceasefire negotiations.


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