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Originally Posted by Load Toad
(Post 12056756)
The insurance costs alone will stop ships from going through the Straits - Iran doesn't have to sink any ships or hit many at all - even 1 - it's the risk of a 100 million dollar ship full of oil and crew getting hit in a war zone that makes the cost unbearable
As long as the price of the risk (insurance premium) exceeds the return at current prices on the cargo, it's not worth moving. Sure there's lots more in there, cost of doing nothing, value of extracting the ship from the Gulf to use elsewhere, etc, but that's the basic equation. If the market price doesn't provide a return after factoring in the risk (insurance premium), the load doesn't move. |
Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
(Post 12056976)
He can’t even spell ‘which’ correctly!
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Sat with cup of tea last night wondering where this was going, with leaders rhetoric slowly painting themselves into a corner. ( I' m being even handed here) It doesn't seem that long ago we had the first televised war courtesy of CNN and now we have the first by social media - And as anyone who frequented X knows - its one hell of a rabbit hole to go down.
We've been in a numbers game since the first exchange. If one side can generate enough cheap drones we may well have arrived at a stalemate already, where a choke point is held with the threat to shipping being enough to disrupt the world economy. If this can be talked out of by anyone - I'm all for it. ( or is this a rearming pause..) I'm still wondering if the impending arrival of stealth busting Radar and a million drones to saturate Iron Dome might have been the straw that broke the camels back for Israel, but one thing is for sure, the way we in the west shape our armed forces needs to learn these lessons quickly. Far quicker than we were learning them by watching Ukraine. |
Originally Posted by Semreh
(Post 12057019)
This raises the question for me as to how many medium-range ballistic missiles Iran has, and how many SM-3s the USA has deployed in-theatre. Given Iran's published target list, there is a lot of pressure on the USA to provide adequate cover for those, as well as other not listed, but militarily important targets. The SM-3s cost between USD 10 million and USD 30 million each.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-n...t-2024-10?op=1 https://thedefensepost.com/2026/03/17/sm-3-block-ib/ https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary...n-warfare.html I would hope that USA and Israeli intelligence know how many medium-range ballistic missiles Iran has available and therefore have enough stock of adequate defensive weapons: otherwise the Iranian strategy is clear. Currently, the Iranians have absolutely no incentive to hold back. Well .....none obviously, because DJT told us over a week ago that they had destroyed 100% of Iran's military capability. |
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Reportedly arriving today and tomorrow.
My images of F-16C Block 50 Fighting Falcons of the U.S. Air Force from the 14th and 77th Fighter Squadrons en route to Ovda Airbase, Israel. They are set to replace fighter elements previously deployed aboard the USS Gerald R. Ford of the U.S. Navy, which were conducting combat air patrols over the Red Sea and the Bab el-Mandeb. Some of these aircraft will also participate in operations to defend Israel and Jordan against incoming one-way attack drones launched by the IRGC Aerospace Force. This is the final deployment for the 14th Fighter Squadron based at Misawa, Japan, as it prepares to retire its F-16s and transfer them to other units, including the 480th Fighter Squadron and the 77th Fighter Squadron. |
Leaked to CBS 3 days ago, looks like it's happening, 82nd Airborne deploying.
CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-a...-preparations/ Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran ......The U.S. is preparing to deploy elements of the 82nd Airborne Division into the Middle East region. The planning involves the Army's Global Response Force and the Marine Corps' Marine Expeditionary Unit. Thousands of Marines are being moved now to the Middle East. Three warships and about 2,200 Marines from an expeditionary unit departed California earlier this week, according to two U.S. officials. It was the second such Marine unit sent since the war began, and it could be a few weeks before it's in place. The first was sent from the Pacific and is still making its way into the region. The movements underscore the Pentagon's effort to expand military options available to the president, even as administration officials publicly decline to discuss potential next steps. USAF C-17A out of Fort Bragg (82nd Airborne Division) setting up to cross the Atlantic Ocean; can carry up to 102 paratroopers with equipment: C-17 RCH674 08-8204 AE2FB0. USAF C-17A out of Joint Base Charleston (JBC), which supports army paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg: C-17 RCH580 05-5145 #AE144F. Also, 08-8204 already made a round trip earlier today from Fort Bragg's Pope Army Airfield as RCH898. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e406fecd5.png https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....45c2c91cea.png |
A rather interesting read.
Forget the politics in it, it shows how a strong leadership against a weak one can turn the tails on a superpower and beat a superpower by both tactically outsmarting them and using their perceived strengths against them, such as targeting the very facilities the US threatens to hit in Iran by counter threatening to do the same in the gulf states, you end up with an impasse that you cannot get out of. Hit Iranian desalination plants and the whole of the middle east will find themselves bereft of water as Iran destroy theirs, water is life and if you remove that the whole gulf will collapse. Sounds a good scheme to the paper general's now running the US war strategy, but actions have consequences, and they are just finding that out. By postponing his threat to “obliterate” Iran’s energy system if Tehran doesn’t open the Strait of Hormuz, Donald Trump has revealed the limits of American power, which are understood by its enemies, but not by its president. Trump claims the five-day “pause” on his plans to destroy Iran’s electricity system came about through “very good and productive talks” with Tehran – talks Iran says never happened. But the US president did have to account for Tehran’s calibrated reaction to his threat. Do that, said Iran, in its first response, and we’ll blow up all the desalination plants that keep your Gulf allies alive in the desert, we’ll shut down the Strait of Hormuz until you fix all our stuff that you bombed, and we’ll go after Israel even harder. Later, Tehran seemed to roll these threats back in an uncharacteristic attempt to hold some moral high ground, after the UN observed that destroying water systems could be a war crime. Iran said it would focus on taking out electricity generating plants in the Gulf – which coincidentally supply power to turn sea water into fresh. “The lying... US president has claimed that the Revolutionary Guards intends to attack the water desalination plants and cause hardship to the people of the countries in the region,” the Iranian government said on state media. “We are determined to respond to any threat at the same level as it creates in terms of deterrence... If you hit electricity, we hit electricity.” A “pause” allows Gulf nations to try to replenish fast dwindling air defences. It buys Iran’s now highly decentralised military system respite from a possible onslaught. And it gives Trump the chance to reflect, if he is capable of reflection, on how to get out of a quagmire that Tehran has prepared for him. The Israel-US attacks on Iran, now going into their fourth week, have caused a surge in oil and natural gas prices and threaten to trigger global recession. Facing mid-term elections in November, Trump can ill-afford skyrocketing prices at American petrol stations. The cycle of threats to energy was started by Israel which, aping Russian tactics in Ukraine, bombed Iran’s South Pars gas field. Qatar draws its wealth from the same underground reservoirs and while liquefied natural gas prices spun yet higher, Trump demanded that Israel stop such attacks against Iran. These attacks are also probably war crimes. But this is moot. The US and Israel believed they could bomb Iran into regime change. They forgot the lessons of recent history – that a threat from a superpower is far more effective than the exercise of that power. The limits of American-led military operations when it comes to achieving political ends were bitterly exposed with the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. Incompetent leaders of the US-led occupying forces set the conditions for a bloody insurgency that led to the establishment of the so-called Islamic State. It also allowed Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and its proxies in Iraq, Damascus (the Assad regime), and Lebanon (Hezbollah) to flourish for two decades. The IRGC fought in Iraq and watched US-led forces in Afghanistan flounder and bleed and learned that a global superpower can be defeated in the long term. Among the lessons they observed was the “threat” from then-president Barack Obama to use force against the then ruler of Damascus, Bashar al Assad, if his forces used chemical weapons. Assad used the globally banned weapons – and America did nothing. It may have been deemed expedient to leave Assad in power and to abandon the democratic and revolutionary forces trying to drive him out for fear of creating more space for al-Qaeda and Isis. A failure to act may have been the right thing to do – but Assad and his puppet masters in Tehran did not know that. They gambled, and won – and America didn’t have the nerve or the muscle to move against them. Responding to Trump’s threat at the weekend to “obliterate” Iran’s oil fields, Tehran said: “Any attempt to attack Iran’s coasts or islands will cause all access routes in the Gulf... to be mined with various types of sea mines, including floating mines that can be released from the coast. “In this case, the entire Gulf will practically be in a situation similar to the Strait of Hormuz for a long time...” This is an insurgent tactic that the US and Israel, who have had years of experience fighting militant insurgencies, failed to take account of. It may also be a lie. The Iranians may no longer have the capacity to cripple the global economy in this way. Tehran’s threat was also a dare. Would America ever truly gamble on whether Iran can shut down the route for 20 per cent of the world’s oil, most of Europe’s gas, and on whether the IRGC can, really, shut down the Gulf plants which make at least 80 per cent of the region’s water? Trump has his own insurgent approach to communications. It keeps his friends off balance and serves his enemies. Signalling alternatively that he is winding down the US war in Iran, then threatening an escalation. He asks for help from allies to open the Strait of Hormuz then dismisses them, including Britain, as cowards that are no longer needed. Gulf countries have seen this behaviour and been dragged into the war with Iran by hosting US bases. Their glistening cities are only habitable because they are powered by gas and oil. Their thirst only quenched by taking the salt out of seawater. Iran’s foreign policy under successive ayatollahs is driven by a fundamentalist interpretation of Twelver Shi’ism. They believe that Iran must remain a conservative theocracy to create the conditions for the Mahdi to reveal himself. This has driven an obsessive hatred of America and Israel. Iran placed itself at the centre of the Axis of Resistance which included the Houthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Assad regime, and militias in Iraq. Now Tehran is not only at the centre of this axis, it is the focal point of “resistance”. And it is America’s president who seems to be backing down (probably under pressure from Gulf allies). Iran appears to have allowed some Indian and Pakistani oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. Tehran may be reeling from air attacks that killed supreme leader Ali Khamenei and may have injured his son, and successor, Mojtaba, but it is exploiting opportunities to isolate Trump. There are no signs that Iran’s regime is falling or that its long-oppressed and violently abused population is rising against it. It is trying to extract a price for a war brought to the world by Trump and Netanyahu that none of their friends want to pay. That is how to beat a superpower. . |
Originally Posted by ORAC
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 12057168)
........... Sounds a good scheme to the paper general's now running the US, war strategy, but actions have consequences, and they are just finding that out. .........
I do wonder what the $$$$ total for this escapade is to date and what the final total will be. Still, at least Greenland is safe - for now! |
My apologies dear ORAC but i think this is very important (normally its you who is the X master )
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Needs to be carefully verified. Qalibaaf has today denied he has been involved in any talks with the Americans.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12057164)
Leaked to CBS 3 days ago, looks like it's happening, 82nd Airborne deploying.
11 2nd ranger 4th SOAR (McChord) 6 from 82nd airborne and delta (Bragg / Liberty) 4 from nightstalkers and 5th special forces group (fort campbell) 4 from DEVGRU (NAS Oceana) looks like they are moving SOF over for something big |
Confirmation/Update on the above.
A significant movement is underway from US Army, Navy and Air Force bases in CONUS to the Middle East comprised of at least 35 C-17 flights since March 12th, with 11 more flights on the way. Origins: 12-Hunter Army Air Field/Fort Stewart, GA 8-Unknown 7-JB Lewis-McChord, WA 6-Pope Army Air Field/Fort Bragg, NC 4-Campbell Army Airfield/Fort Campbell, KY 4-Gray Army Airfield/JB Lewis-McChord, WA 4-Naval Air Station Oceana, VA 1-MacDill AFB, FL 1-JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ Destinations: 17-Ovda Air Base, Israel 13-King Faisal Air Base, Jordan 4-King Hussein Int'l Airport, Jordan https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6daa89552.jpeg |
Just saw on a repeat of Sky News, the Political Editor of The Telegraph claiming the US already had "50,000 troops in the ME, and were shipping over a further 10,000 who would arrive in 1-3 weeks".
Where do these figure come from? Completely OTT and you would expect someone who is Pol Ed of the Torygraph to know her sh!t. These journos would only have to look here at the airbridge to get an idea of what is happening. |
Is it all troops or munitions being moved?
This is not going to be pretty and the US better get use to a rising death toll, if he is going after the island I would imagine Iran has got all the relevant coordinates and every inch of the place mapped to make it a killing field. . |
Jepp, for a ground operation the Russians will support Iran the with their knowledge of ground drone warfare made in Ukraine. That can quick become a disaster. The air superiority means nothing for such ground operations.
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Originally Posted by EDLB
(Post 12057644)
Jepp, for a ground operation the Russians will support Iran the with their knowledge of ground drone warfare made in Ukraine. That can quick become a disaster. The air superiority means nothing for such ground operations.
Meanwhile, business as usual for USAF KC-135R and Pegasus tankers, heading to and fro out of Chania and Tel Aviv. Along with airborne refuelling supplied by Stratotankers out of Mildenhall. (B-1's en-route eastwards I surmise). So no let-up for now. |
Supposition is that they will deploy east to join/support the Tripoli when she arrives in the Gulf later this week.
Yesterday: USAF United States Air Force - Coronet East Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker 1x #AE0264 60-0355 - GOLD 83 + MAZDA 31-35 Flt 5x F-35C Five U.S. Marine Corps F-35Cs as MAZDA 31 flt inbound RAF Lakenheath, supported by GOLD 83. This will be the first time ever that F-35Cs have visited the U.K. or entered U.K. airspace. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12057697)
Supposition is that they will deploy east to join/support the Tripoli when she arrives in the Gulf later this week.
Yesterday: |
Back to the operation and the response by Iran. Are we seeing evidence of the Iranians making battle driven pipeline upgrades to existing (remaining?) capabilities? Optical SAM guidance, apparently increased range from multi stage ballistics, multiple warheads? Thinking back to how UK capability upgrades came through during GW1, Falklands etc - Impressive for a country getting it handed to them from above if so.
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If they're Charlies, they won't be joining Tripoli.... With the USS Ford hors de combat in Crete I have to wonder if their air wing will also leave the ship and deploy nearer the fight? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_Air_Wing_Eight |
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According to the Wall Street Journal, citing two U.S. officials, the amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli, the amphibious landing dock USS New Orleans and roughly 2,200 Marines from the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit will cross into U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of responsibility on Friday. Notably, the same day that U.S. President Donald J. Trump’s 5 day deadline for Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz expires. |
Handing over the islands to the UAE would be a major political move considering their history* .....
BREAKING: The U.S. government is reportedly planning operations involving the three Iranian islands of Abu Musa, Greater Tunb, and Lesser Tunb. The United States is increasing its military presence in the Middle East while maintaining an element of surprise by signaling negotiations with the new leader of the Islamic regime, Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf. Today, four U.S. Navy E-2D Hawkeyes are en route to Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. Additionally, six EA-18G Growlers were deployed to Ovda Airbase in Israel yesterday, and 12 F-16Cs from the 77th and 79th Fighter Squadrons of the U.S. Air Force are now being transferred there as well. Two amphibious assault ships and an additional carrier strike group are also heading to the region. As part of this strategy, the United States is reportedly engaging in negotiations while preparing for a potential takeover of the islands, with the intention of transferring Abu Musa, Greater Tunb, and Lesser Tunb to the UAE in exchange for silencing the Persian Gulf states who have been protesting this war. |
This was an eye opener! alluded to a lot on Pprune, but I didn’t realise just how bad it is. The RAN looks really good now! 🤨
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The War of Words continues, information, and misinformation, etc: here are a few examples
U.S. Central Command issued a sharp denial on Sunday, March 22, to persistent Iranian claims that its forces shot down an American F-15 fighter jet, calling the reports outright false and pointing to an unbroken record of air superiority in the escalating conflict. In a post shared on X, CENTCOM stated plainly: “Rumors claim the Iranian regime recently shot down a U.S. F-15 over Iran. FALSE. U.S. forces have flown more than 8,000 combat flights during Operation Epic Fury. No U.S. fighter aircraft have been shot down by Iran. TRUE.” The {CENTCOM} statement came amid a new wave of Iranian media assertions, including from Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps channels, alleging the downing of an F-15E Strike Eagle in recent days. Tehran has repeatedly aired such claims since the U.S.-led air campaign began in late February, often with grainy video or photographs that military analysts have deemed inconclusive or old news. Iranian authorities state that an “enemy” F-15 fighter jet was shot down by air defence systems after being intercepted over the country’s southern coast near Hormuz Island. Iranian state media reported that air defences intercepted and hit an “enemy F-15” after it was tracked over the southern coast near Hormuz Island. “An invading fighter jet was targeted by the army’s air defence,” the statement said. Iran’s Press TV also reported the incident and shared a video claiming to show the jet being shot down. A 29-second video clip, believed to show radar or infrared tracking, has circulated online. The footage appears to capture missile launches targeting a fast-moving object identified as a U.S. F-15 over southern Iran. ‘Hey Trump, you’re fired’: Iranian military spokesman The Associated Press - Business News Iran built a vast camera network to control dissent. Israel turned it into a targeting tool Story by DAKE KANG and SAM MEDNICK TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — The role of Israel's hijacking of Iran’s street cameras in the killing of the country’s supreme leader underscores how surveillance systems are increasingly being targeted by adversaries in wartime. Hundreds of millions of cameras have been installed above shops, in homes and on street corners across the world, many connected to the internet and poorly secured. Recent advances in artificial intelligence have enabled militaries and intelligence agencies to sift through vast amounts of surveillance footage and identify targets. On Feb. 28, Israel vividly demonstrated the potential of such systems to be hacked and used against adversaries when Israel tracked down Iranian leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei with the help of Tehran’s own street cameras - despite repeated warnings that Iran’s surveillance systems had been compromised, according to interviews and an Associated Press review of leaked data, public statements and news reports. The use of hacked surveillance cameras among other intelligence in the operation to kill Khamenei was described to the AP by an intelligence official with knowledge of the operation and another person who was briefed on the operation. Neither was authorized to speak with the media and both shared information on condition of anonymity. Iran has installed tens of thousands of cameras in its capital in response to waves of protests, most recently in January, when massive nationwide demonstrations ended in a bloody crackdown that killed many thousands of Iranians. That Tehran’s cameras were compromised was no secret: the city’s cameras were repeatedly hacked starting in 2021, and last year, a senior Iranian politician warned publicly that cameras had been compromised by Israel, posing a national security threat. Conor Healy, director of research at surveillance research publication IPVM, said Khamenei’s killing illustrates a pressing security dilemma for governments seeking to quash dissent. “The irony is that the infrastructure authoritarian states build to make their rule unassailable may be what makes their leaders most visible to the people trying to kill them,” Healy said. “Do you trust who is watching?”
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USS Tripoli stopping at the deep harbour port and replenishment depot at Diego Garcia yesterday. Doubtless refuelling, reprovisioning and loading a maximum load of weapons.
Can't identify it myself, but i'll take their word for it. The satellite just passed over the Indian Ocean at 11:46:00 on March 23, 2026 (Beijing time), capturing the moment when the #USSTripoli LHA-7 docked at Diego Garcia. |
Each missile costs around £50K.Hopefully they fire them singly and not in pairs...
UK troops shot down 14 drones over Iraq overnight, marking their most intense night since the Iran war began, UK defence officials say. The intercepts were carried out by RAF Regiment units using laser-guided Martlet missiles fired from Rapid Sentry launchers, a system quietly introduced into service. |
BDA: Greater Tunb Island (Strait of Hormuz) Mar 22 imagery reveals an extensive strike package hit Greater Tunb (26.264644, 55.304487). There is significantly more damage here compared to Abu Musa. Zone A (Inland/Comms): Precision strikes targeted hardened shelters in the center of the island and leveled support buildings near the communication towers. Zone B (Eastern Harbor): The small harbor has been effectively neutralized. Waterfront buildings are wiped out, and the main pier has been physically detached from the jetty. Zone C (Airstrip): Several flightline support structures have been damaged or destroyed. Consistent with the Abu Musa strikes, airstrip denial tactics are actively in play across the runway. The destruction of Iran's island-based chokepoint infrastructure continues... BDA: Abu Musa Island (Strait of Hormuz) Mar 22 imagery covers Abu Musa (25.874692, 55.011777), a strategic island for Iranian shipping interdiction at the western chokepoint of the SoH. Eastern Sector: Several facilities and support structures near the eastern harbor have been leveled. Airfield Denial: Physical obstructions have been placed across the main airstrip to prevent landings. Western Sector: The primary small harbor and adjacent waterfront buildings on the west side appear intact at this time. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ace0a0bf46.png https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6fe37cde2b.png |
Further update on 82nd Airborne and SF deployments.
Operation EPIC FURY – Airlift Surge Analysis (03/14–03/24) ~50 US Air Force C-17 flights observed, with 42 fully attributable routes, showing a high-tempo strategic airlift surge from CONUS into the Middle East via Ramstein. Origins: 14-KSVN (Hunter AAF) 7-KPOB (Pope AAF) 7-KTCM (McChord AFB) 4-KHOP (Campbell AAF) 4-KNTU (NAS Oceana) 4-KGRF (Gray AAF) 1-KWRI (McGuire) 1-KMCF (MacDill AFB) 8-Unknown Destinations: 24-Jordan 17-Israel Units of interest at each origin: KPOB (Pope AAF / Fort Bragg, NC): ➜ 82nd Airborne ➜ Delta Force ➜ 3rd Special Forces Group KHOP (Fort Campbell, KY): ➜ 101st Airborne ➜ 160th SOAR KTCM/KGRF (JB Lewis-McChord, WA): ➜ 75th Ranger Regiment (2/75) ➜160th SOAR ➜ 1st Special Forces Group KNTU (NAS Oceana): ➜ Naval Special Warfare/DEVGRU KMCF (MacDill AFB, FL): ➜Central Command ➜Special Operations Command KSVN (Hunter AAF/Fort Stewart, GA): ➜160th SOAR ➜3rd Infantry Division ➜75th Ranger Regiment When viewed as a whole, the volume of flights—combined with the diversity of origin bases and the units associated with them—strongly indicates a significant deployment of special operations forces into the region. |
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USAF A-10 Warthogs spent most of the day strafing Iranian-backed militia positions around Mosul, Iraq. |
Seems Trump has wanted to take Kharg and the other islands away from Iran since 1987.....
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....62fd6dec07.png |
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Fox News has learned that the Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division Maj Gen Brandon Tegtmeier and his “command element,” members of his headquarters staff, have been ordered to deploy to the Middle East as the Pentagon and White House weigh whether to send the 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East for possible land operations. There has been speculation that the US would use ground forces to possibly take Kharg Island or for other missions inside Iran. This would be a first step needed to plan for such a contingency. NYT was first to report yesterday that the Pentagon was weighing whether to send the 82nd Airborne. https://archive.is/20260323181834/ht...oops-iran.html |
No, not quite there yet...... Just a little bit further to go..... :rolleyes:
HMS Dragon has arrived at the NATO facility in Souda Bay, Greece ahead of joining operations to defend Cyprus. Recieved a replenishment-at-sea from RFA Tideforce during the transit to the Eastern Mediterranean. |
Might cause a lull in operations. Floods and severe weather warnings throughout Oman, UAE etc.
Extremely impressive yet highly concerning dynamics at play in the Middle East this week. An area of low pressure deepening over Iraq is accompanied by very strong wind shear and massive instability across Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, and Oman. Thunderstorms forming in this environment have the potential to be dangerous and destructive with intense precipitation leading to flooding, large to very large hail, severe winds, and even tornadoes. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4bd9ebd47.png |
Update on the F-35C deployment - first 5 of 10 from VMFA-311
Having left MCAS Miramar on March 10, the first 5 of 10 jets from VMFA-311 'Tomcats' finally landed at RAF Lakenheath last night as they head for the F-35C's first land-based combat deployment. 5 more due today before heading east. GOLD Crew up again today. Similar to yesterday, 3x KC-135R/T likely moving another 5x “VMFA-311” F-35C from MCAS Cherry Point (KNKT) to RAF Lakenheath (EGUL)..... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9817c9e191.png |
Akrotiri? USS Ford in Crete? Can't see Greece being a target.
Following the reported impact near Beirut of fragments from an Iranian medium/intermediate-range ballistic missile that was intercepted earlier today over Northern Lebanon, Lebanese security sources have confirmed to Reuters that a ballistic missile launched from Iran was downed for the first time over Lebanon. According to one security source, the interception was carried out by an SM-3 or SM-6 launched from a U.S. Navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer positioned in the Eastern Mediterranean. The intended target of the missile is currently unknown, however, from the launch trajectory it may have been Cyprus or even Greece. Thankfully the USN does have its Arleigh-Burke AEGIS destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean to intercept. Just a pity HMS Dragon has only just reached as far as Souda Bay and wasn’t in position even to watch. |
So we are looking at the American ground force of what 10,000, 20,000 troops?
I wish them luck. Have they not learnt anything from Afghanistan, you may hold little areas, but not the country. he Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is estimated to have approximately 150,000 to 200,000 active troops, serving as a specialized military branch tasked with protecting Iran's Islamic system. It maintains ground, air, and naval units, along with the elite Quds Force (~5,000+ members) and controls the Basij volunteer militia, which has thousands of members. Wikipedia +4 Key Personnel and Structure
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 12058050)
So we are looking at the American ground force of what 10,000, 20,000 troops?
I wish them luck. Have they not learnt anything from Afghanistan, you may hold little areas, but not the country. |
Hopefully they’ll have the wherewithal to dodge all the incoming such activity is sure to attract
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