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FWIW I can find no reputable news source reporting this supposed strike. I would refrain from drawing conclusions until we have some facts.
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Originally Posted by Canary Boy
(Post 12060104)
FWIW I can find no reputable news source reporting this supposed strike. I would refrain from drawing conclusions until we have some facts.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 12060098)
The aircraft might be old but its not that old.
Venereal perhaps? |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12060067)
Was that today? I have this from Reuters: is this the same thing you saw?
I think they already set up a toll booth, Mister Secretary. ;) The news casters are sometime dazzling in their cluelessness. Of course Iran is making those treats. FFS, they've been under aerial attack for 28 days. Did someone think they would take this lying down? So, given the "DOG & PONY" show that passed for the last cabinet meeting in the building adjacent to the wreckage of the East Wing, a treat may just be in order there LW. Perhaps the problem is getting those that want to be the "significant human" to the pack in Iran, need to go and talk to someone like Cesar Millan, who knows a thing or two about a thing or two, about dealing with an unruly pack. "Lying down" appears to be off the current pavlovian response to whacking the top dogs of a sovereign nation like something on a B-grade mobster movie. As hard as it is to say, Iran has shown restraint in the past, when it came to pulling down the tent pole (the straits) and knee capping the global economy. With gallons of drones at their disposal and what passes as pretty hefty treats with soft centers to aim at, the choices that are presented curtesy of Bibi & AO's choices of late are stark.
Iran retains adequate short and medium range drones to control the gulf and to mess with the rice bowls of all concerned. Not much sort of a super size flash-bang that would do much to that, and doing that is probably not going to look good on the resume. The problem with such actions is, it is only one inelegant step followed by the certain consequences. At least popcorn is not bad for you.... at least compared to all the other options on the table. Vlad is likely ROFL on this, as Bibi and The Don have taken the heat off Vlad's decisions starring in the history books. Right now, Xi is the one with the biggest problem, it is coming along with the consequences of famine, which is one of those things that used to be called Tuesday in China of old, but with the advent of a middle class that is urbanised, that ain't the case no more. Xi might want to put his finger into this pie too to retain his exalted status as Emperor Winnie the Poo. |
Originally Posted by Canary Boy
(Post 12060104)
FWIW I can find no reputable news source reporting this supposed strike. I would refrain from drawing conclusions until we have some facts.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 12060126)
WSJ being quoted as the source, maybe confusion with last week's attack on Prince Sultan AB ?
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Deja vu
Originally Posted by Wokkafans
(Post 12060078)
Ref post #4406
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/20...244290376?s=20 Did they not learn from the last time? Haven’t they heard of the concept of dispersal or of revetments? Surely there are sufficient 40 foot sea cans around to erect basic revetments. Even sand berms are a possibility. Even parking them on different areas of the ramp every day would make accurate targeting more difficult due to delays in the rocketeers getting the latest Russian Sat photos |
Originally Posted by DogTailRed2
(Post 12060095)
If Ukraine has taught us anything it's that kit and personnel out in the open is vulnerable especially when the Ruskies are sending you targeting information.
Knock out the tankers and you reduce the USA's ability to provide air power. This will force more anti-air to be pulled from other areas to protect these bases. This is a proxy war and China, Russia will do all they can to support Iran and weaken the West for the eventual push towards Europe and Taiwan. |
The attack on march 13th looked a lot different. https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/five-...l-19868232.htm
You wonder why they did not shoot down that rocket. |
Originally Posted by Canary Boy
(Post 12060133)
The last WSJ report of an attack on that airbase was published on 14 March!
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India to Iran: No permission needed — Navy deploys 7 warships to protect vital oil routes India has drawn a firm line against Iran’s pressure tactics in the Strait of Hormuz. New Delhi made its position clear: the strait is an international waterway under UNCLOS rules. No permits, no crew disclosures, no “protection fees” for Indian vessels. The Indian Navy has launched Operation “Urja Suraksha,” deploying seven frontline warships, including destroyers, across the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea. The mission is straightforward: escort Indian oil and LNG shipments safely through high-risk waters. No posturing, no hesitation—just strategic autonomy backed by force. India is placing its navy exactly where its energy security is at stake. |
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New videos shows Iraqi members of the Iranian proxy group PMU filming themselves feeing in panic as an American A-10 Warthog carries out 3 strafing Arun’s against them. The sound is something else… |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12060178)
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I would expect some other big players to follow suit ............. Asia is facing famine from all sorts of imported essentials being held up otherwise. |
IDF:
STRUCK: Arak Heavy Water Plant in Central Iran—A Key Plutonium Production Site for Nuclear Weapons. The IDF will not allow the Iranian regime to continue advancing its nuclear weapons program, which poses an existential threat to Israel and the entire world. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....468ba4faa.jpeg Israel just struck the Arak Nuclear Complex. The heavy water facilities provide heavy water for an IR-40 reactor which could produce between 10-12 kg plutonium a year from its spent nuclear fuel, offering Iran a 2nd pathway to nuclear weapons on top of enriched uranium. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12060180)
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12060178)
India to Iran: No permission needed — Navy deploys 7 warships to protect vital oil routes
India has drawn a firm line against Iran’s pressure tactics in the Strait of Hormuz. New Delhi made its position clear: the strait is an international waterway under UNCLOS rules. No permits, no crew disclosures, no “protection fees” for Indian vessels. The Indian Navy has launched Operation “Urja Suraksha,” deploying seven frontline warships, including destroyers, across the Gulf of Oman and the Arabian Sea. The mission is straightforward: escort Indian oil and LNG shipments safely through high-risk waters. No posturing, no hesitation—just strategic autonomy backed by force. India is placing its navy exactly where its energy security is at stake.…………… Interesting state of play; one islamic nation being unfriendly with their neighbours, and with India (3rd largest muslim population after Indonesia and Pakistan), China, Japan getting messed up, Vlad's oil tanks turned into BBQ pits, Europe/UK needing to think again about exploration, Venezuela oil being.... whatever that is now, and the US while nominally self sufficient already taking a sip from the SPR. Interesting times. If Bibi and The Don get out of this monumental mess with a sudden breakout of peace... then perhaps it would be worthy of a FIFA Pizza Pie or whatever it is they gave. |
New Delhi made its position clear: the strait is an international waterway under UNCLOS rules. No permits, no crew disclosures, no “protection fees” for Indian vessels. |
Vlad may have a problem loading tankers, which may incentivise him to ship oil by rail. Xi may be happy lending out tanker cars to increase deliveries along with providing electronics for missiles and drones. Both will be pleased to see Trump running short on interceptors and other expensive ordnance.
Plenty of potash in Belarus to substitute for Gulf fertilizer. |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
(Post 12060098)
The aircraft might be old but its not that old.
Venereal perhaps? I'll get my coat........ |
Originally Posted by fdr
(Post 12060199)
Thats a nuclear armed nation making a pretty clear position. Will China do the same? India is nominally self sufficient for food, ..........
Clearly, quite a bit of Indian-Iranian discussion has been had. Interesting all the same, especially if you ask could the RN do the same for British ships? Oh, I forgot - virtually no RN and even less of a British Merchant fleet these days! :uhoh: |
Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
(Post 12060252)
Xi may be happy lending out tanker cars to increase deliveries along with providing electronics for missiles and drones.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
India to Iran: No permission needed — Navy deploys 7 warships to protect vital oil routes
Both China and India and some others, are using the strait with Iranian approval They missed this bit "After securing permission from Iran for the ships to transit the Strait, the warships are providing guidance on the route. " |
Need confirmation from other sources. can't see anything in the photo myself.
Photos: BREAKING: According to this satellite image taken by Landsat 8/9, it appears that, in addition to the KC-135R Stratotankers of the U.S. Air Force, at least one or two E-3G Sentry AWACS has also been destroyed in the ballistic missile strike carried out by the IRGC Aerospace Force at Prince Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia, on March 27, 2026. In fact, it appears that, the primary target of the IRGCASF was the E-3Gs of the USAF parked there, not the KC-135Rs. However, they also managed to destroy several KC-135Rs. What makes this even more personal for me is that I had previously met and photographed those E-3G Sentry AWACS aircraft weeks before start of this war for my book on Op. Epic Fury. |
ust a poorly researched twitter. Both China and India and some others, are using the strait with Iranian approval Iran turned back two Chinese container ships from the Strait of Hormuz in an “unusual move,” the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday. The vessels, operated by state-owned COSCO, reversed course near Larak Island close to the Iranian port of Bandar Abbas, according to ship tracking data and crew accounts cited in the report..... |
Looks like the A-10s are proving useful and more being deployed.
Doubt it means the USAF will reconsider their retirement.... USAF United States Air Force - Coronet East Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker 1x #AE04DB 57-1437 - GOLD 50 + TABOR 91-96 flt 6x A-10A Thunderbolt IIs Six Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt IIs from the 190th Fighter Squadron arrived at Pease Air National Guard Base this evening, supported by GOLD 50. Their next stop has been rumoured to be either Lajes or RAF Lakenheath. Their arrival at Pease means we could be looking at A-10s to Lakenheath this weekend. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50693c8b49.png |
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BREAKING: Multiple residential buildings in the Nobonyad neighborhood of Tehran were bombed by the Israeli Air Force early this morning. These buildings were part of a residential complex housing personnel of the Iranian Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics and their families. Several buildings have been completely flattened, with tens of people—and possibly more—believed to be trapped under the rubble. |
So this is assed to be just the move of SF forces. Presumably the planned move of the 82nd will follow.
Update on this movement into the Middle East in support of Operation EPIC FURY. At least 63 flights completed with 11 more in progress. Origins: 15-Hunter Army Air Field/Fort Stewart, GA (KSVN) 12-Pope Army Air Field/Fort Bragg, NC (KPOB) 10-Unknown (????) 8-Cannon AFB, NM (KCVS) 7-JB Lewis-McChord, WA (KTCM) 5-Naval Air Station Oceana, VA (KNTU) 4-Hurlburt Field, FL (KHRT) 4-Campbell Army Airfield/Fort Campbell, KY (KHOP) 4-Gray Army Airfield/JB Lewis-McChord, WA (KGRF) 2-Harrisburg, PA (KMDT) 1-MacDill AFB, FL (MCF) 1-JB McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst, NJ (KWRI) 1-Ramstein AB, Germany (ETAR) Destinations: 23-Ovda Air Base, Israel (LLOV) 19-King Abdullah Air Base, Jordan (OJKF) 10-King Hussein Int'l Airport, Jordan (OJAQ) 5-Unknown (????) 5-Elsefina Air Base, Greece 1-Ramstein Air Base, Germany (ETAR) 1-Muwaffaq Salti Air Base, Jordan (OJMS) Key Observation: The common thread among these origins is the presence of special operations units at each base. KSVN-160th SOAR, 75th Rangers KPOB-Army Special Ops Command, Delta Force, 3rd Special Forces Group KCVS-27th Special Ops Wing KTCM/KGRF-160th SOAR, 1st Special Forces Group, 75th Rangers KNTU-Naval Special Warfare Group 2, DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6) KHRT-Air Force Special Ops Command, 1st Special Ops Wing, 24th Special Ops Wing, 492nd Special Ops Wing, 720th Special Tactics Group KHOP-5th Special Forces Group, 160th SOAR. These flights appear to be linked to the same mission based on their characteristics and communications. Assessment: Based on the above, I now assess this movement to be related to the movement of special operations assets and does not appear to be related to the announced movement of the 82nd Airborne. |
An eyewitness in Bushehr, a major port city by Persian Gulf, has reported that four hours ago, for a duration of one hour, heavy airstrikes were carried out on Bushehr, and a vast area from Solh Abad Dock to the entire Customs Administration Office was severely targeted. The eyewitness said that in the past, airstrikes had lasted a maximum of ten minutes. He added that the Solh Abad Dock had previously been used by the IRGC's speedboats. |
Two significant reports in the MSM:
1. Houthi rocket attack on Israel. This is the first time this band has entered the conflict and marks a significant expansion of the war especially given the Saudi antipathy to them. 2. Israeli attacks on civilians nuclear plants in Iran. Israel stating that said attacks coordinated with USA. Possible Iranian retaliation targeting GCC power facilities? It's escalating and getting more complex. |
Up next, Houthis block the Red Sea....?
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I'm sure Iran would be happy for the Houthis to ramp up attacks on shipping in the Red Sea.
It would stretch the USN into a two area deployment, put further pressure on the World economy and increase international calls for the conflict to stop. On the down side I suppose it might galvanize European navies into deploying ships into the Red Sea for "defensive purposes" to protect shipping. Who knows, Hermer might even declare such an act to be "legal"? None of this is exactly rocket science. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12060317)
Tehran and the IRGC don't seem to be in agreement. I think the IRGC still want their $2M per ship...
Iran Clears Two More India-Bound LPG Tankers For Strait Of Hormuz Transit; Carrying 90K Tonnes Of Precious Gas | OdishaBytes Iran Clears Two More India-Bound LPG Tankers For Strait Of Hormuz Transit; Carrying 90K Tonnes Of Precious Gas |
LBC news reporting American military are concerned that Tomahawk missiles stocks are being depleted.
Tomahawks being one of the main defences for the navy. |
Originally Posted by larssnowpharter
(Post 12060376)
"attacks on civilians nuclear plants" "attacking a nuclear plant is generally considered a war crime under international humanitarian law. The Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols strictly prohibit attacks on facilities containing "dangerous forces," such as nuclear power stations, if such an attack risks releasing radiation and causing significant civilian losses" |
LBC news reporting American military are concerned that Tomahawk missiles stocks are being depleted. Tomahawks being one of the main defences for the navy. Tomahawk is an offensive strike cruise missile, not defensive. |
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QUOTE=Biggus;12060401
None of this is exactly rocket science.[/QUOTE] Allow me to illustrate your point. A planning room somewhere. My view of the War Planners of “Op Half Baked“ https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5186041b9.jpeg Law 18 is really important.! https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3751e37a3.jpeg [ |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12060424)
See post 3495. https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...l#post12059981
Tomahawk is an offensive strike cruise missile, not defensive. |
Originally Posted by ninja-lewis
(Post 12060169)
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/ira...pdates?mod=mhp "An Iranian missile struck the Prince Sultan air base in Saudi Arabia on Friday, wounding several U.S. Service members and damaging several U.S. refueling aircraft, according to U.S. and Saudi officials familiar with the strike. The attack also involved unmanned aerial vehicles, the officials said."
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