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airborne_artist 27th April 2006 16:28


Also, as I am officially living in a garage, I may well apply for some benefits.
You'll get a visit from an officious council employee asking if you've got planning permission for the change of use of the garage. They'll evict you if you havn't got it :E

pikeyeng 27th April 2006 16:36

Can not wait to read The Sun tommorrow when no one gets flying pay as is the case with a large majority of BZN. Also would love to be a fly on the wall at PSF sorry HR dept when pay issues finally push those on the edge of going to actually hand in there PVR. Computer says no......pay!!:ugh:

Mr. Dodd 27th April 2006 16:55

Be Quick
 
Heads up, you can stick you claims, sorry expenses into JPA until 1900 tonight... be quick

maniac55 27th April 2006 17:07

Pay chit, what pay chit!
 
Good, bad or indifferent but at least some bods know what their going to get & the breakdown.

In deepest darkest Lincs pay chits have yet to be seen, bl@@dy brilliant.:{

Still could be worse, I might not get paid at all.:ugh:

Nignog 27th April 2006 17:28

I got all excited today when a old style payslip turned up at home in the post. Turned out to be my P60!!! :{

peppermint_jam 27th April 2006 17:49

I fell for that "hoax" yesterday too. Mug that I am!

Time Flies 27th April 2006 18:48

I've only read the first and last page of this thread so apologize for any repitition.

How many guys have not received flying pay on their new JPA processed pay statements?

Me....1....

:(

FJJP 27th April 2006 19:27

I hope that someone has sent an e-mail to the Air Cdr and his minions giving them a link to this thread. He may then get a shock about what's happening at grass roots level and the strength of feeling. Another national IT debacle...

Maybe the editors of the national dailies could get an 'inadvertant' opps! sorry, mis-directed e-mail with the link to this...

Maybe. Perish the thought that anyone in the highly valued Armed Forces would do such a thing deliberately.

Ooooh! Look! Flying pink pigs!

AdanaKebab 27th April 2006 20:50

There appears to be a lot of maoning about pay on this thread. As a proper Royal Air Farce Officer you should all have a private income, large country estates and several polo horses.
I thought pay was for rankers. :hmm:

plans123 27th April 2006 20:57

And don't forget, everyone should have at least one months worth of pay in the bank at all times......:rolleyes:

16 blades 27th April 2006 21:04

I think you're confusing us with the Ruperts, Adana 'bab.

The problem with JPA is not the software, or the servers. I'm led to believe, by somebody who knows about these sorts of things, that the network itself simply doesn't have the bandwidth to support it, and never will without a MAJOR upgrade (somebody in the office yesterday gave a very convincing, albeit highly technical explanation that went right over my head!) Therefore, it seems likely that it'll NEVER work - just like ALFENS....

What we'll end up with is a system with a small group of protected users able to access it, and us requiring to go through them to get our 'self service' admin done. Who knows, maybe we could form a dedicated Flight and give them a dedicated office in handbrake house...now, what could we call them?

They deal with Personnel, and provide Services........

16B

Hydraulic Palm Tree 27th April 2006 21:06


And don't forget, everyone should have at least one months worth of pay in the bank at all times......
I'd love to know where this is alledgedly written down because if I am quoted it tomorrow when I phone to winge to a blunty that I will only be drinking Veuve Clicquot and not Cristal this weekend because I have not got my FP, I will drive around to their office and shove whatever book it is in up their arse!:}

HPT

4Foxtrot 27th April 2006 21:11

We can't all be in the Household Cavalry. My parents aren't cousins for starters.

Scorpy 27th April 2006 23:02


Originally Posted by plans123
And don't forget, everyone should have at least one months worth of pay in the bank at all times......:rolleyes:

I was always led to believe that you had to be in possesion of enough cash for a haircut at any time. Even in these inflated times, this comes nowhere near a months pay.


Originally Posted by pikeyeng
Also would love to be a fly on the wall at PSF sorry HR dept when pay issues finally push those on the edge of going to actually hand in there PVR.

Sadly with JPA being down we will not be able to access the 'PVR Now' button!!

Hydraulic Palm Tree 28th April 2006 05:21

Looks like I got my FP as I have a seperate credit in my account for £618.

Shame as I was enjoying the prospect of blunty baiting this morning:}

L J R 28th April 2006 05:56

I thought Kings Regs required officers to always have enough cash to call a carriage.

Specaircrew 28th April 2006 06:18

I'm PA and I've been paid £1000 too much this month so I can only assume (no pay statement) that I've been paid flying pay by mistake! :)

FFP 28th April 2006 06:19

No flying pay. And I should have.

F:mad: :mad: ers !! ;)

Lowkey 28th April 2006 06:39

FP on mine as a separate payment as well. FFP have fun kicking some admin butt. Hope you get it sorted.

maniac55 28th April 2006 07:03

Dosh in the bank.
 
Well some money has turned up in the bank, not sure if its exactly right but its enough to pay the alcohol bill. :E

Thank the lord for internet banking, you know thing; hundreds of thousands of customers, all able to access and interact with their accounts at any time and all nice & secure. I wonder if anyone from JPA world had a look at how the banks manage to do that? :cool:

JPA, nice concept but p1ss poorly introduced.

Mr C Hinecap 28th April 2006 07:24


Originally Posted by L J R
I thought Kings Regs required officers to always have enough cash to call a carriage.

They probably did have that. However, I don't think the Queen requires us to have that sort of availability.

Interesting mention of lack of bandwidth up there. I'd heard rumours that a certain HQ was going to get streaming live news over the network there. There are obviously no bandwidth problems at all :rolleyes:

peppermint_jam 28th April 2006 07:30

Didn't get a chance to stop at the shop this morning, anyone know if this problem has made the papers yet?

P_J

Fg Off Bloggs 28th April 2006 07:31


Originally Posted by Indicating Full
Oh Dear - just got my first purple pay statement.
I have 2 lots of flying pay my own and another annotated RN OBS and he gets about 10% more than me.
Another line HTD (Home to Duty I presume) was for £120 but I normally get £12.
I think I'll save the extra as I can see a large bill coming if someone ever sorts this out!

Check your Charges and Deductions column for 'HTD Contrib' indicator! Caught me out as well until I realised.

Sven Sixtoo 28th April 2006 08:52

Guess I've got your flying pay then.

Ah, the joys of being PA.

Sven

moosemaster 28th April 2006 09:00

Somebody must have my flying pay too.

So glad all is well within the force :}

Unmissable 28th April 2006 09:39

Pay is down by an amount that is suspiciously approximate to my flying pay!! Not seen a statement (on-line or paper) so I cannot prove it is flying pay. No supplementary payment like has been promised either. Mind you the last paper 1771 I submitted (on 31 March) appears to have been paid.

4fitter 28th April 2006 10:05

I have been paid - internet bank told me so, however, no pay statement so I can't check if it is the correct amount. Asked my HR Admin lad to view my record for me and guess what ? I don't exist.

How much longer can this fiasco run for :mad:

WhoAreYa 28th April 2006 10:38

According to the bank I have been paid. :}
There are two inputs, i'm guessing basic pay and an additional amount, probably flying pay.

No way of checking if the amounts are correct as no pay statement.

Almost_done 28th April 2006 10:49

Pay went in, woohoo, how much, what for, anyone can guess and it didn't seem right. I'll check my pay statement.........ah..............flipping system!!!!

Tonkenna 28th April 2006 11:28

I am in the same boat... my pay appears to have gone in, but I cannot check my hard copy pat statement as it it several thousand miles away. Now, if it had gone home, Mrs Tonks could have had a look. Whay have we binned sending them to a private address... to get in line with the Army? who haven't even taken JPA on yet!!!! Ridiculous, why do we have to step back in time to the lowest common denomitor.

Still, at least I can still pay the ex-wife, which will keep the solictor away:hmm:

JPA:yuk:

Tonks

Capt Wobbly 28th April 2006 11:32

DOING IT FOR LOVE
 
The pay run overseas has been a complete disaster. I have £500 in my UK account and £4.03 paid into my overseas account. I know I like my job, but this is taking the :mad:

dantura 28th April 2006 11:38

A mate of mine didn't get any pay at all..... HR said it must be the banks fault......Hmmmm??:hmm:

He had to go and get an advance in cash...

...now there's an idea..In stead of all this computer type stuff, how about we all line up in front of the CO, march up, salute and take the wages in cash????

Where's that gems form?

D

SpotterFC 28th April 2006 12:31

Tonkenna

Be careful signing yourself 'Tonks' on this thread.

'Tis an Air Cdre Tonks who is in charge of this rolling goat f**k! Unless it IS you in which case :yuk: :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek: :mad: :ugh: :{ :yuk:

BootFlap 28th April 2006 12:43

Basic pay and some of flying pay in, but not all! Still better than not getting it all. Anyone fancy setting up an online sweepstake for when it will get sorted.........:ok:
........ and another sweepstake for whether the 'prat at the back' in charge of this gets promoted / knighted or leaves to join EDS as a consultant!

SidHolding 28th April 2006 14:03

I've been paid just as my pay statement said (saw it online only last monday). Which is on the wrong rate (lower than it should be) and without my flying pay!!! I've been paid enough to cover my mortgage and direct debits, but I may be getting a bit thirsty in a few weeks!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

maniac55 28th April 2006 14:08

BootFlap

The clue's in the name, July Probably August.:*

As for the second sweepstake you ought to know better by now.

Nignog 28th April 2006 14:10

Looking at my bank it looks like I have been paid correctly including flying pay and HTD but without a pay slip I cannot confirm. However looking at the problems some of us have had I must be one of the the lucky ones.

airborne_artist 28th April 2006 14:37


However looking at the problems some of us have had I must be one of the the lucky ones.
Wrong NigNog - you are the lucky one. Sounds like you'll be getting them in tonight, and for several months to come.

16 blades 28th April 2006 14:45

I must be incredibly lucky - was able (albeit by the skin of my teeth) to view pay statement online a few days ago (just before whole system went tilt), recieved purple paper pay statement (which makes no sense whatsoever) and pay has gone into bank. What's more, it seems about right - I say 'about' because now that no daily rates or increments are listed, I have no way of checking....convenient that, after April and all when our rates of pay have just changed post pay 'rise'....

16B

ChezTanker 28th April 2006 14:50

God bless JPA :bored: - not only my PAS monies but somebody has slipped in a little extra - I guess it's a tip. Unlike capped actuals it seems to be more than 10%!! The extra goes straight to savings 'cos we know that my pay will be less next month as they adjust their cockups - when I can get on JPA I will inform them. :ok: Still not seen hide nor hair of the hardcopy so that I can see what the extra is all about.


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