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[email protected] 27th Mar 2023 07:51


Originally Posted by pattern_is_full (Post 11409485)
Seems to me memos to civilians to have an emergency bag packed, make bandages, and so on, were referenced earlier in the thread - the subtext being "YOU could be a mobilznik on a one-way trip to Mariupol - at any time!"

I suspect it is more about keeping the populace frightened and malleable by scaremongering about Western nuclear attacks - if they think they are under threat of WW3 they are far less likely to be protesting in the streets.

Spunky Monkey 27th Mar 2023 09:10


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11409550)
I suspect it is more about keeping the populace frightened and malleable by scaremongering about Western nuclear attacks - if they think they are under threat of WW3 they are far less likely to be protesting in the streets.

Absolutely agree. It is an "Enemy at The Gates" message. They are struggling to find new cannon fodder, support for the war could be waning (from videos and tel calls being released), problems caused by the sanctions.
What better way to mobilise the Russian populace behind the war than saying the big bad Nato and Nazis are once again threatening Moscow.
It would seem that the Russian populace is still fighting WWII in their psyche - so start with the big brother messaging to really get things moving.

fdr 27th Mar 2023 09:22


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11409531)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...tage-v5fgl9tjn
Russian naval vessels ‘near Nord Stream’ days before attack
This account can be partially corroborated with navigation data from the public domain, which shows some of the ships named in the report heading towards Bornholm from Kaliningrad, a militarised Russian exclave on the south coast of the Baltic Sea.
However, the tracking data cuts out at about 2pm on September 21, probably because the ships switched off their electronic identification systems.….

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Nothing brings attention faster than turning off AIS...

NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 09:26

:sad:


NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 09:49

Ouch..


HOVIS 27th Mar 2023 09:50

A tour round Bakhmut and an insight to what they are fighting for.


NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 11:24

Ukraine looking at mass suicide drone assaults

https://charter97.org/en/news/2023/3/27/541627/


The American magazine Forbes notes that Russian online media is buzzing with fear of an imminent attack by tens of thousands of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) on Russian troops invading Ukraine, indicating that Kyiv is allegedly preparing to change the situation on the frontline radically.

Oleksiy Arestovich spoke about the upcoming drone attack in January. He was a freelance adviser to the Office of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky until recently. And in February, the Ukrainian General Staff announced the creation of the "world's first UAV strike company".

According to the Russian Engineer Telegram channel, Ukraine bought up almost the entire market of relatively cheap FPV racing drones equipped with video cameras in China, “according to indirect estimates, 50-100 thousand units”.

These drones are smaller than standard quadcopters but are equipped with powerful engines that allow the lightweight drone to reach speeds of up to 200 km/h.

It is enough to attach a grenade to it - and the drone can be used as a radio-controlled kamikaze drone, which is able to quite accurately hit targets at a relatively large distance from the operator controlling it via video link.

Ukrainian forces carried out this tactic of improvised FPV drone attack in July, with the quadcopter diving through an open doorway into a building occupied by Russian troops before exploding.

Since then, such attacks have proliferated, according to the article. There are online videos of improvised radio-controlled kamikaze strikes at Russian tanks (the device can easily dive into an open hatch) or at trenches of Russian units that cannot be reached by direct fire from the ground.

According to Forbes, at least half of the sorties by these drones are successful. They hit the intended target despite the fact that "they are cheap and easily available compared to other guided weapons and loitering ammunition".

The publication cites calculations according to which the creation of each such handcraft kamikaze costs only a few hundred dollars, which is much cheaper than even an ordinary high-quality quadcopter, not to mention the Iranian Shaheds when Moscow pays from 20,000 to 50,000 dollars for each, according to some estimates.

Russian Engineer pounders that a raid of 50,000 drones could become an attack of unprecedented scale. Considering that racing drones are very resistant to radio interference, it will not be possible to stop them with ordinary radio jamming.

Waves of flying kamikazes can come in one after another, striking Russian positions "until all targets are destroyed." Moscow accused Ukraine of the drone explosion near Tula the day before. The explosion left a crater with a diameter of about 8 meters.

NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 11:41

They never even saw it coming.



NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 11:42

I don't know if this is brave or stupid, it sounds like a popcorn machine as I take it ammo is cooking off.


meleagertoo 27th Mar 2023 12:32


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11409679)

Hmm. The total lack of reaction to that grenade landing bext to him suggests to me it's faked. He'd have reflexively started/leaped up instead of just carrying on doing what he was doing.

212man 27th Mar 2023 12:34


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11409680)
I don't know if this is brave or stupid, it sounds like a popcorn machine as I take it ammo is cooking off.



https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1...C8kaWRt8ItAAAA

I would say that is gunfire in the vicinity, nothing to do with the tank.

Tartiflette Fan 27th Mar 2023 14:46

German Leopards arrive in Ukraine
 
18 Leopard 2A6 arrived in Ukraine on Monday morning ( March 27th )

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html

Winemaker 27th Mar 2023 15:25


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11409707)
Hmm. The total lack of reaction to that grenade landing bext to him suggests to me it's faked. He'd have reflexively started/leaped up instead of just carrying on doing what he was doing.

I think this is a trick of perspective; if you watch carefully the grenade explodes just as it hits, but it's tricky to follow it as the camera shot is vertical. It doesn't land then explode - the soldier never saw it.

sangiovese. 27th Mar 2023 17:28

There’s a lot of modern weaponry and tanks about to head in their direction. What would be your reaction? I know what I’d do

DaveReidUK 27th Mar 2023 18:14


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11409671)
Ukraine looking at mass suicide drone assaults

What on earth is a "suicide drone" ?

Video Mixdown 27th Mar 2023 18:33


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11409879)
What on earth is a "suicide drone" ?

The term has been in use for some time now. Just a simple UAV containing explosives and intended to crash into a target. Distinguishes them from armed UAVs that can release their weapons and be reused.

Wokkafans 27th Mar 2023 19:26

Ukrainians training on Challenger 2 in the UK.

At 8:30 there is a short interview with a Ukrainian, who featured in a clip a while back, where he was hit in the head by a richochet off his tanks commander's turret MG.


NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 22:12

He’s in cuckoo land

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NutLoose 27th Mar 2023 22:27

You would expect armour to be a bit more substantial lol.

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tdracer 27th Mar 2023 23:38


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11410007)
You would expect armour to be a bit more substantial lol.

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...C2-bGI98MtAAAA

Obviously the Russians put as much effort into training their drivers as they do their soldiers :ugh:​​​​​​​


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