A lot of that looks like cooked off cases, perhaps from a burnt out vehicle?
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Originally Posted by uxb99
(Post 11406757)
Is close escort a valid tactic on the modern battlefield? WW2 close escort was seen as relatively ineffective. Escorts preferring to be way out in front to counter any threat rising to meet the bombers.
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It appears something was still burning in Sevastopol the morning after the attack..
It also appears Ukraine has newer sleeker version of their maritime drone. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11406890)
One field!
Both sides are spewing propaganda remember - it isn't wise to swallow any of it without due and cautious thought... |
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He’s at it again, ascending to heaven, more like it his ass ending as a silhouette burnt onto the wall of his studio wall post strike..
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Maybe Putin needs irresponsible people like this in order for him to look 'good' against.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11406976)
He’s at it again, ascending to heaven, more like it his ass ending as a silhouette burnt onto the wall of his studio wall post strike..
https://twitter.com/TheKremlinYap/st...C23ZXr5rUtAAAA |
Originally Posted by Winemaker
(Post 11407009)
I have to ask, but am sure I know the answer, is this an official Russkie TV channel? Are these people insane? Do real Russians believe this stuff? Ah, Solzhenitsyn's liar quote comes to mind. It's amazing how the world's view of Russia has changed in a year.
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https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...older-version/
US to fast-track Abrams tanks for Ukraine by choosing older version WASHINGTON ― The Pentagon announced it will speed up its delivery of Patriot missiles and M1 Abrams tanks to Ukraine, opting to send a refurbished older model that can be ready faster and reach Ukrainian troops fighting Russia’s invasion force by this fall. The original plan was to send Ukraine 31 of the newer M1A2 Abrams, which could have taken a year or two to build and ship. But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has approved new plans to send the older M1A1 version from Army stocks, which will be easier for Ukrainian forces to learn to use and maintain as they fight Russia’s invasion. “DoD, in close coordination with Ukraine, made the decision to buy the M1A1 variant which will enable us to significantly expedite delivery timelines, and deliver this important capability to Ukraine by the fall of this year,” said the Pentagon’s press secretary, Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder. The U.S. will refurbish excess M1 hulls and ship them as the M1A1 SA variant, outfitting the 70-ton behemoths with 120mm cannons and 50-caliber machine guns. Poland in January signed a contract for 250 M1A2 Abrams SEPv3 tanks; U.S. Defense Department officials could not immediately say how they planned to juggle the Ukraine purchase and foreign military sales….. |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11022356)
Chechnya. Interesting.
Ukraine had every right to be independent, it was in the original USSR charter and again in the agreements of the breakup of the USSR. So did Chechnya, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia etc. Most elected to do so, under the agreement of Alma Ata. Crimea was a part of Ukraine by then. They could be independent, but recall that Russia conducted a genocide of the inhabitants, there is as much right to Turkey there as any other inhabitant at this time. |
Forgive me a simple question, why was the US planning to build new tanks for Ukraine ? The US must have thousands in stock, and the likelihood of suddenly needing them must be minimal. I don't think neither Mexico nor Canada are likely to invade, or the US invading these countries any time soon ! Although, should Trump get reelected we can't know what's going to happen...
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Originally Posted by Gargleblaster
(Post 11407097)
Forgive me a simple question, why was the US planning to build new tanks for Ukraine ? The US must have thousands in stock, and the likelihood of suddenly needing them must be minimal. I don't think neither Mexico nor Canada are likely to invade, or the US invading these countries any time soon ! Although, should Trump get reelected we can't know what's going to happen...
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New footage showing a marine drone being destroyed in Sevastopol. Beached on a boom? I have read that the ferry service has been cancelled, if indeed it did detonate on the boom, possibility that the harbour now has a damaged boom preventing the ferries from sailing?
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-sevastopol-attacked-by-drones-from-sea-and-air .. |
Originally Posted by fdr
(Post 11407082)
Ah, for Racedo's comment, at the time, Crimea was a part of Ukraine, had been since Feb of 54. It had no autonomy, and had not for more than a hundred years.
Ukraine had every right to be independent, it was in the original USSR charter and again in the agreements of the breakup of the USSR. So did Chechnya, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia etc. Most elected to do so, under the agreement of Alma Ata. Crimea was a part of Ukraine by then. They could be independent, but recall that Russia conducted a genocide of the inhabitants, there is as much right to Turkey there as any other inhabitant at this time. |
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11407193)
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Forgive me a simple question, why was the US planning to build new tanks for Ukraine ? For at least a decade the army hasn’t wanted any more Abrams and don’t ask for any in their budget - and every year Congress adds another buy to keep the production line going. The army preference is that the line should be kept going with FMS orders, as with the Polish order, so ordering more for Ukraine would have extended the production line without any more for the army. https://www.npr.org/2012/07/25/15725...-says-no-tanks https://www.military.com/daily-news/...esnt-want.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima_A...nk_Plant#2010s |
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11407184)
Yes, my comment was to point out to Racedo that Russia started a war against a breakaway region that sought independence. Twice, actually.
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