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NutLoose 10th Oct 2022 11:20

Himar confirmed hits marked as skulls.


NutLoose 10th Oct 2022 12:02

Taking out a Russian cruise missile with an Igla


Xeptu 10th Oct 2022 12:15


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11310918)
Yesterday Lukashenko claimed Ukraine was going to attack Belarus, so we can expect another maskirovska event at the hands of the FSB and Putin. That should be interesting, the Belarus citizens are around 85% fed up with Russia and Lukashenko. When he orders his troops forward, what direction will the troops advance? I would not bet against them going into Minsk and removing Lukashenko. Belarussians are in the war already, on the Ukraine side. Perhaps Lukashenko didn't get that memo?

That's my take on it too, when the Belarusian military are presented with a bunch of conscripts a representation of what remains of the russian armies fighting force, that should give them the confidence to arrest lukashenko and end this madness, at least from the Belarus perspective. I suspect if any shots are fired from Belarus then that's all the excuse Poland will need.

T28B 10th Oct 2022 12:57

Good morning/afternoon/evening to you all. The Kerch Bridge has its now thread now. Please take further discussion on the bridge to that thread.
Thank you in advance
T28B

Beamr 10th Oct 2022 13:50

Ukraine really needs more and better AA weapons. And fast.



henra 10th Oct 2022 14:16


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11311065)
Ukraine really needs more and better AA weapons. And fast.
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1579465601231507457

If even slow Cruise Missiles are missing their target by the hundreds of Yards it is clear that the capability for any kind of precision strike is finally gone. One really does wonder: How is their idea to achieve any military success if you can't hit a power station the size of 20 Football fields?
One really wonders: GPS disturbed? GLONASS so bad? Run out of High- Tech components? Bad build quality? All of it?
It is just one video. Of just one event. And still it tells A LOT (besides targetting civillian/urban areas in general). When will they finally realise that they are destined up sh*t creek - without a paddle. What's the miracle they are waiting for?! The miracle for Ukraine is clear: More an better systems (IRIS-T) going to arrive (sadly not as quickly as one would love to).

Wokkafans 10th Oct 2022 14:19

Now that's a near miss: "Russian missile strike misses a pedestrian bridge in Kyiv this morning" https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

Where traffic lights save your life: "A driver records another set of rocket attacks in Dnipro - 10/10/2022" https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3



Fitter2 10th Oct 2022 15:18

When Kyiv is specifically requesting twitter users not to post images/videos which will identify precise time and place of missiles arriving , it is disappointing to see publicity eager posters doing exactly that. (Read history about how 3rd Reich were misled about V1 targeting).

ORAC 10th Oct 2022 15:32

Brought back from the Kerch Bridge thread, because it’s nothing to do with the bridge….

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...bridge/671693/

Putin’s Regime Faces the Fate of His Kerch Strait Bridge

Beamr 10th Oct 2022 15:39


Originally Posted by henra (Post 11311078)
The miracle for Ukraine is clear: More an better systems (IRIS-T) going to arrive (sadly not as quickly as one would love to).

Apparently miracles do happen. German media writes that Germany will speed up the IRIS-T deliveries, first one being in Ukraine in a few days. Announced by Christine Lambrecht.

However, this is just one system, more is urgently needed.

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/...-erhalten.html

FUMR 10th Oct 2022 15:54


Originally Posted by Fitter2 (Post 11311104)
When Kyiv is specifically requesting twitter users not to post images/videos which will identify precise time and place of missiles arriving , it is disappointing to see publicity eager posters doing exactly that. (Read history about how 3rd Reich were misled about V1 targeting).

Some of the footage I've seen originates from CCTV and not phones.

ICATQ 10th Oct 2022 15:55


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11310895)
It is not yet made clear who is sabotaging whom; we are still kicking each other under the table.

Not so much kicking under the table, more like one diner is trying to stop another stealing his lunch and then the table.

NutLoose 10th Oct 2022 15:57

I bet this concentrates the mind, driving between mines!



dead_pan 10th Oct 2022 16:01


Originally Posted by Fitter2 (Post 11311104)
When Kyiv is specifically requesting twitter users not to post images/videos which will identify precise time and place of missiles arriving , it is disappointing to see publicity eager posters doing exactly that. (Read history about how 3rd Reich were misled about V1 targeting).

Yes they need a lesson in Opsec and not unwittingly assisting their enemy. Recall the attack on the shopping mall in Kiev early on in the conflict after some dope Tweeted a pic with words to the effect of "Oo look at all those military vehicles parked in the basement". I suspect it may also have been the case in some of the early attacks on barracks housing elements of the international brigade.

dead_pan 10th Oct 2022 16:04


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11311018)
That's my take on it too, when the Belarusian military are presented with a bunch of conscripts a representation of what remains of the russian armies fighting force, that should give them the confidence to arrest lukashenko and end this madness, at least from the Belarus perspective. I suspect if any shots are fired from Belarus then that's all the excuse Poland will need.

+1

My take is that Putin is once again trying to persuade the Ukes that it'll happen and divert resources away from the east + south.

ORAC 10th Oct 2022 16:22

JUST IN: Poland advises citizens against travelling to Belarus, urging people to leave the country - Reuters

Wokkafans 10th Oct 2022 16:28

Skit capturing the vexing task of mapping the non-stop changes of Russia’s annexed claims in Donetsk.



NutLoose 10th Oct 2022 17:04

Belarus saying they are only taking up a defensive posture, nothing more and wish no war with anyone on their borders.



Beamr 10th Oct 2022 17:40

Some mornings you'd just kill for a cup of coffee.



dixi188 10th Oct 2022 17:41


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11311156)
Belarus saying they are only taking up a defensive posture, nothing more and wish no war with anyone on their borders.




https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...DRubCZyesrAAAA

But that is basically what Putin was saying right up to the day Ukraine was invaded.


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