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Old 1st Nov 2023, 16:51
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
You can use GPS guidance to target pretty much anything you know the position off. Isn't an AARM targetted at specific types of transmission? Would such a missile detect the signal of a gps jammer?
AARM ? A mongel variant of HARM and AMRAAM ? I would certainly expect a HARM missile to home on those signals: that is its purpose, it is not GPS-guided.

What frequencies would be used for tank-to-tank or tank-to-base communications /

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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
AARM ? A mongel variant of HARM and AMRAAM ? I would certainly expect a HARM missile to home on those signals: that is its purpose, it is not GPS-guided.

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AGM-88G AARGM-ER is the latest version of HARM in the late testing phase. Also ordered by Finland.

HARMs since the B version have had GPS as part of their guidance system for navigation where there is no emitter or the emitter shuts down. The replacement for HARM is in development - google Stand-in Attack Weapon (SiAW).
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
They look like a pair of nipples in the picture and can be placed anywhere on the vehicle.
With winter looming, they'll be easy to spot at quite a distance.

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Originally Posted by B Fraser
With winter looming, they'll be easy to spot at quite a distance.

There is a maritime portable variant! Seen off the coast of Southern France during the successful testing phase.

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Originally Posted by albatross
There is a maritime portable variant! Seen off the coast of Southern France during the successful testing phase.

Apologies to the moderators if deemed inappropriate and deleted.
After zero much deliberation, this post was ruled as "of interest to military aviators, on topic."
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The male visual cortex produces a powerful homing signal.
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It`s called a `bow-wave`....
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So off topic......but all things considered I would suggest the Mods might consider opening a thread for a proper (now that sounds like a contradiction) discussion re the points raised in the post.

We would not want to see a brief and cursory consideration to them.....would we?
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying
The male visual cortex produces a powerful homing signal.
The other cortex's signal has more gain, though.
(Is this where Graham Chapman interrupts and protests "Stop It, this getting silly!" or words to that effect?)
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
The other cortex's signal has more gain, though.
(Is this where Graham Chapman interrupts and protests "Stop It, this getting silly!" or words to that effect?)
That probably wasn't within his field of vision - or interest !
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Stick to the points, please gentlemen!
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Originally Posted by Saab Dastard
Stick to the points, please gentlemen!
Yes, outstanding good idea.
Just thought that with all the bad news in the world a little uplifting humour was needed.
Now ”Back to the half filled stadium of reality.”
I always remember a comedic news report:
“There was peace in the world for 5 minutes today! Unfortunately it turned out everyone was just pausing to reload.”

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Re the jammers, I have seen this image posted of a van set up during testing, it makes you think they may have a very narrow effective field of cover.




https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...ntent=cmp-true
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Thoughts on the reason for the air movements in and out of Kaliningrad..

A few thoughts about unusually heavy air traffic to and out of the Kaliningrad Oblast. A 🧵

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Related thread, from an interview with the Ukrainian army CinC by General Mick Ryan

​​​​​​​“The war is now moving to a new stage: what we in the military call “positional” warfare of static and attritional fighting, as in the first world war, in contrast to the “manoeuvre” warfare of movement and speed.” An interview with @CinC_AFU….
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​​​​​​​Shoigu reported that Russian air defense units shot down 37 Ukrainian planes - just a week after shooting the previous 24.

He has already made calculations for destroying F-16s that aren't in Ukraine yet.….
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Re the jammers, I have seen this image posted of a van set up during testing, it makes you think they may have a very narrow effective field of cover.




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For the GPS frequencies from 1175 to 1575MHz those single cones do not yield much directivity. Because they are not much larger than the wavelength. I would guess that directivity/gain is less than 10dB for a single cone, so given the necessary power of a jammer you an neglect the directivity.
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Originally Posted by EDLB
For the GPS frequencies from 1175 to 1575MHz those single cones do not yield much directivity. Because they are not much larger than the wavelength. I would guess that directivity/gain is less than 10dB for a single cone, so given the necessary power of a jammer you an neglect the directivity.
Since they don't know the direction of the incoming threat, they do have to cover a very wide beamwidth in total.
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Don’t think tanks are jamming GPS as they are moving targets. - these are C-UAS jammers in the frequency range from 900-2,000MHz

https://www.unmannedairspace.info/co...rs-in-ukraine/

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