Tartiflette Fan

1) Back-blast
2) Beams and rubble preventing damage to AFV
3) Explosion likely fatal to basement anyway.

RedToo

Anders Puck Nielsen on Russia's 'meatwave' tactics. As usual thoughtful and persuasive.

The Helpful Stacker

The Serbs used to do similar things in Bosnia.

If anyone remembers the wired and sandbagged off plum orchard at GV (Tomato Factory) many of the mines buried in there were laid similar to this.

The Serbs also had a habit of fitting anti-tank mines with anti-personnel fuses in such places too, so that any children who tripped them whilst desperately searching for food would be pretty much vaporised rather than "just" killed.

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RedToo

Scary thought:


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GeeRam

And **if** that did happen, with Hungary and now Slovakia have a pro-Kremlin Govt in place, if they decided to withdrawn from NATO, Russia could drive a big wedge into the side of NATO and almost split it in two.

Ninthace

I remember the Warsaw Pact - in those days they were much closer, halfway across Germany, in fact.

henra

Yeah. Indeed funny to see what makes people panic these days. Fulda Gap was about two hours drive from where I grew up. And part of the family have lived 10 miles from the Iron curtain. And ten million+ troops in Wasaw pact being on the other side of the fence back in the day.
To me the real worry is the Russian Forces getting entangled with NATO and being erased within a couple of days and they having to go nuclear to prvent final extinction.

henra

I don't think they on their own want to withdraw from NATO. Hungary is solidly arming up. They don't trust good ol' Vlad. Even if politically Orban is heading in a somewhat similar direction. But he doesn't want to be Vlad's slave. They are significantly affected by the embargoes against Russia and regarding Ukraine are probably concerned about potentially a 45 Million people of cheap labour entering EU and finishing off their Business model. But I'm sure they won't leave NATO on their own.

NutLoose

Slovakia might have a pro Government, but looking at the Ukrainian support in cities around the country they might have difficulties going all in with Putin.
Although someone says it was.

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NutLoose

Ok can anyone figure this out? All I can come up with is to disguise the fact that it isn’t seriously damaged, but to make it appear so too prevent further attacks.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Donetsk...ertical=trends

NutLoose

Russian Donetsk barracks are reported as burning

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spinex

I found this one a little superficial and not very convincing in comparison to other videos of his that I've watched. Just dismissing the Russian casualties as convicts and thus of no consequence to greater society is, from my wider reading, firstly inaccurate as the largest number of convicts were in the first mobilisation and pretty much expended on Bakmut. Losses since then have primarily been from the working class away from the Moscow - St Petersburg axis and are starting to create significant angst, which relates to the second point; Russian society may be prepared/forced(?) to endure far greater losses than democratic societies, but they are not of no consequence, the Afghanistan adventure is evidence of this.

Ironic in a way, Marxist revolutionary theory has always relied heavily on leveraging the (over)reactions from authorities to minor provocations and I suspect that attempts to crack down on protests from wives and mothers is going to provoke far more trouble for them, than concern over losses ever will. Russia 2023 is not USSR 1941 and I for one, believe that we are a lot closer to a tipping point than a superficial view reveals. 20:20 hindsight has many telling us that 1989 was inevitable, but I was invested in opposition to one of the USSR's overseas projects at the time and well remember the despair at the volume and sophistication of arms showered on our opponents, turning to open mouthed disbelief when the bear was suddenly revealed as nothing more than a worm ridden facade on a rickety framework.

Time will tell.

Winemaker

Hey Nutty, one has to be a twitter user to view this.....

NutLoose

From a Russian biased side, apparently dead Ukrainian troops in boats.

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NutLoose

Again from the Russian biased side, and I have no idea what is happening here or even which side it actually is in reality..

NutLoose

Winemaker, these are the images, the bodies are dummies.

NutLoose

How fake propaganda gets seen as real.

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Winemaker

Yep, obviously fake. Thanks. I'm curious how people would be fooled by this stuff, especially as these two photos don't agree with 'body' arrangements at the rear of the APC in the two pictures, or in fact, the debris behind the machine. Picture #1 has no debris behind, while picture #2 has several 'bodies' on the ground. Also, the ground tracks are different between the pictures with much greater track definition in the first picture.

The first picture shows a crater feature that is not evident in the second photo, and the damage to the APC is different, with the second photo showing the gun at 45° to the chassis while the first shows it in line. Oh well, gnomes I guess.

ORAC

Companies from the EU and the USA are extending cooperation with Rosfirms, which produce tanks, — The Insider.

Austrian company EMCO GmbH, Latvian Baltic Machinery, German Oxapa GmbH, South Korean Mabuchi Korea Corporation, American Universal Photonics, Japanese Japan Industrial Trading and Kaga Electronics, Lithuanian company UAB Elfanta, Serbian Grindex D.O.O. were exposed in the supply of parts to Russia.

The main thing is that many of these companies are headed by citizens of the Russian Federation, but the companies are registered in other countries.

https://theins.ru/en/economics/267767

rattman

Ukraine is claiming 3 SU-34 shot down. Nothing on how, maybe they bushwacked them with patriots again