Ukraine War Thread Part 2
And another thing, what happened to the Flying Tigers squadron of volunteers just like in Korea?
If we really wanted the F-16s in the air, and being shipped discreetly to Poland for maintenance if need be it would have happened by now?
I'm sure there is enough retired F-16 pilots (some of them on this forum) that want some combat in their old age, that would be an possibility like right now.
Sounds like the usual, delay, delay, then when it's an emergency the yanks will provide with plausible delay.
If we really wanted the F-16s in the air, and being shipped discreetly to Poland for maintenance if need be it would have happened by now?
I'm sure there is enough retired F-16 pilots (some of them on this forum) that want some combat in their old age, that would be an possibility like right now.
Sounds like the usual, delay, delay, then when it's an emergency the yanks will provide with plausible delay.
And another thing, what happened to the Flying Tigers squadron of volunteers just like in Korea?
If we really wanted the F-16s in the air, and being shipped discreetly to Poland for maintenance if need be it would have happened by now?
I'm sure there is enough retired F-16 pilots (some of them on this forum) that want some combat in their old age, that would be an possibility like right now.
Sounds like the usual, delay, delay, then when it's an emergency the yanks will provide with plausible delay.
If we really wanted the F-16s in the air, and being shipped discreetly to Poland for maintenance if need be it would have happened by now?
I'm sure there is enough retired F-16 pilots (some of them on this forum) that want some combat in their old age, that would be an possibility like right now.
Sounds like the usual, delay, delay, then when it's an emergency the yanks will provide with plausible delay.
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Also, the flew in China during WWII. I don’t think they flew over Korea at this time. Could be wrong. (I was wrong once before…)
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You’re good …. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers
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Sad to see another mine roller lost, this time a Stryker, hatches and ramp open so hopefully everyone got out. Hopefully they will be able to salvage the roller kit off it.
Because there are currently 7 NATO countries flying them (8 if you include USAFE) and two of those are about to retire their fleets, so lots of spares, weapons and ground equipment available to transfer.
That isn't the case with Gripen.
That doesn't mean that Ukraine are not looking at Gripen as a future option as they've said that a few Ukraine pilots are in Sweden training on it, for evaluation.
That isn't the case with Gripen.
That doesn't mean that Ukraine are not looking at Gripen as a future option as they've said that a few Ukraine pilots are in Sweden training on it, for evaluation.
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I don't get this obsession about F-16, unless it's to plunder american money.
F-16 needs 10 men to maintain, with years of training. Gripen needs two, with a emphasis on master and new apprentice.
F-16 needs high quality runways, which Ukraine lacks, and the ones that have them the ruskis can bomb anyway. Gripen can take off and land on highways.
Gripen was designed for a russian invasion, regardless what we can say about the swedes being previously woke they know their tech in this field.
Gripen has the latest radar and the americans have only agreed to allow export mid life f-16 upgrade, up to par with the latest mig-29 and su-35 radar and other tech. What's that gonna do? Another wunderwaffe for nafo twitter and others to masturbate over?
Sweden needs real world experience to sell it's saab gripens after a few cancelled orders.
Isn't it obvious? I fail to see the arguments for the f-16 over specifically designed european tech in this scenario where sweden has said they can spare 12-16 now.
F-16 needs 10 men to maintain, with years of training. Gripen needs two, with a emphasis on master and new apprentice.
F-16 needs high quality runways, which Ukraine lacks, and the ones that have them the ruskis can bomb anyway. Gripen can take off and land on highways.
Gripen was designed for a russian invasion, regardless what we can say about the swedes being previously woke they know their tech in this field.
Gripen has the latest radar and the americans have only agreed to allow export mid life f-16 upgrade, up to par with the latest mig-29 and su-35 radar and other tech. What's that gonna do? Another wunderwaffe for nafo twitter and others to masturbate over?
Sweden needs real world experience to sell it's saab gripens after a few cancelled orders.
Isn't it obvious? I fail to see the arguments for the f-16 over specifically designed european tech in this scenario where sweden has said they can spare 12-16 now.
Because there are currently 7 NATO countries flying them (8 if you include USAFE) and two of those are about to retire their fleets, so lots of spares, weapons and ground equipment available to transfer.
That isn't the case with Gripen.
That doesn't mean that Ukraine are not looking at Gripen as a future option as they've said that a few Ukraine pilots are in Sweden training on it, for evaluation.
That isn't the case with Gripen.
That doesn't mean that Ukraine are not looking at Gripen as a future option as they've said that a few Ukraine pilots are in Sweden training on it, for evaluation.
Ukraine is a perfectly capable aerospace manufacturer. And Saab / Sweden might want additional airframe/etc manufacturing capacity. not just AFV capacity.
Strategic thinking is something everyone gets to do, not just a bi-polar world.
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BREAKING: Ukraine is reporting that the first F-16 from the Netherlands has been delivered in country. (Also being reported as a pair)
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Oleksii Reznikov, Minister of Defence for Ukraine.
It seems the strikes on bridges is already having effects on Russian logistics, especially fuel.
https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...55374593683959
https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...55374593683959
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Russians flood ferries to protect the Kerch bridge
The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports that the Russian Federation plans to flood at least six ferries in order to create a protective strip in front of the Kerch bridge. Between the flooded ferries, they intend to install booms.
"A simple measure to protect the nineteen-kilometer bridge in the form of flooding of ferries testifies to the feverishness of decisions and the intellectual crisis within the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation," the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine notes.
The Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports that the Russian Federation plans to flood at least six ferries in order to create a protective strip in front of the Kerch bridge. Between the flooded ferries, they intend to install booms.
"A simple measure to protect the nineteen-kilometer bridge in the form of flooding of ferries testifies to the feverishness of decisions and the intellectual crisis within the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation," the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine notes.
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Crimean telegram channels reported that explosions and machine gun fire were heard in Sevastopol as well as that traffic on the Kerch bridge was blocked.
Mikhail Razvozhayev, the faux Governor of Sevastopol commented post-factum:
“The fleet is conducting firing exercises in the Cossack Bay until approximately 23:00. Everything is calm in the city.”
Mikhail Razvozhayev, the faux Governor of Sevastopol commented post-factum:
“The fleet is conducting firing exercises in the Cossack Bay until approximately 23:00. Everything is calm in the city.”
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Supposedly the testing of Ukraines new underwater drone..
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