Ukraine War Thread Part 2
Tabs please !
Nutty,
I know you didn't place the information in the public domain but please don't make it worse. I do appreciate the vast majority of what you post but can we ease off for a bit while Ukraine enters a crucial phase.
I know you didn't place the information in the public domain but please don't make it worse. I do appreciate the vast majority of what you post but can we ease off for a bit while Ukraine enters a crucial phase.
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Nutty's video geolocated to Salisbury Plain. Sssshhh.... 
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If I was you would be the first up against the wall comrade 
I have only posted what is on several public domain sources for what it’s worth but point taken. Ooh and I avoided posting the Leo’s as the area could be seen.
You can only access data as to location if the metadata hasn’t been removed BTW, but regardless of that if you bothered to check the site it was posted 2 days ago, so they could be on the other side of Ukraine by now.
More relevant is all the comments and film about the dam breach as it is giving Russia real-time assessment as to the areas effected, possible areas to move troops from etc as unlike 2 day old vehicle movements the water is pretty static and is invaluable for the Russians planning their defence in the area.
You can only access data as to location if the metadata hasn’t been removed BTW, but regardless of that if you bothered to check the site it was posted 2 days ago, so they could be on the other side of Ukraine by now.
More relevant is all the comments and film about the dam breach as it is giving Russia real-time assessment as to the areas effected, possible areas to move troops from etc as unlike 2 day old vehicle movements the water is pretty static and is invaluable for the Russians planning their defence in the area.
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I suspect the Kremlin will be getting plenty of information from their own retreating units in the area!
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Again static like the flooding……. 2 day old vehicle movements could be anywhere in any direction., and that’s assuming the Ukrainian posting them didn’t withhold them for a couple of days too.
U.K. no longer has the facilities to manufacture gun barrels for the likes of the challenger as spares for Ukraine.
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/l...ystems-admits/
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/l...ystems-admits/
very long lead time for 155mm barrels, have to be cooled over months
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I think the AS 90 has similar issues as a U.K. only main gun.
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...what was taken out near the dam...
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Based on this geolocation, I believe Ukraine has just hit an army headquarters visited by Putin in April.
46.019844, 34.846380
2R9W+WHJ Shchaslyvtseve, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine…
Heniches'k, 130km deep in the Russian controlled territory. #StormShadow…
The "Dnepr" Headquarters of the Russian army in Kherson…
46.019844, 34.846380
2R9W+WHJ Shchaslyvtseve, Kherson Oblast, Ukraine…
Heniches'k, 130km deep in the Russian controlled territory. #StormShadow…
The "Dnepr" Headquarters of the Russian army in Kherson…
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Some of these look repairable as a lot of tracks off.
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Looking at the desperate efforts to rescue the poor citizens from vast flooded areas, I can think of one place which could supply plenty of rubber boats and outboard engines. Step forward, Border Force UK.
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Seismic Record, 6 June 2023 Nova Kakhovka
attached is a time domain seismic record from NORSAR, the Norwegian Seismic Survey - Nuclear Explosion tracking system. They use a sensor array 600km to the W of Nova Kakhovka, that recorded the following:
There is what has been described as a sharp spike consistent with an explosion at the 01:55:51.5 time period above, on 6 June 2023, located within a 20-30km of the dam, they are still working on refining the location. The time offset for the transmission to the receiver places that explosion at 01:54 Norwegian time (time delay of around 2 minutes for the transmission through the crust). Time on the chart is Norwegian local time, Ukraine time is +1 hr on that. The extended analysis has suggested to the same analysts that an earlier smaller seismic event happened around 20 minutes earlier at the same location. An FFT frequency analysis would be interesting but it is probable that this is an explosion.
The array can achieve a phase comparison for localising the bearing and distance, other arrays or sensors would increase the accuracy, but it is attributed to the destruction of the dam at this time. The estimates magnitude as an earthquake is not particularly high, Magnitude 1.5-2 is relatively low energy, but the conversion from a detonation to a seismic event is not provided. They have at least earlier records that they can assess the explosive charge, the photos of November show large detonations and give timings, that record would be interesting to compare.
Seismic Signal Recorded from an Explosion
Slowness and azimuth determination for Bucovina array (BURAR) applying multiple signal techniques
There is what has been described as a sharp spike consistent with an explosion at the 01:55:51.5 time period above, on 6 June 2023, located within a 20-30km of the dam, they are still working on refining the location. The time offset for the transmission to the receiver places that explosion at 01:54 Norwegian time (time delay of around 2 minutes for the transmission through the crust). Time on the chart is Norwegian local time, Ukraine time is +1 hr on that. The extended analysis has suggested to the same analysts that an earlier smaller seismic event happened around 20 minutes earlier at the same location. An FFT frequency analysis would be interesting but it is probable that this is an explosion.
The array can achieve a phase comparison for localising the bearing and distance, other arrays or sensors would increase the accuracy, but it is attributed to the destruction of the dam at this time. The estimates magnitude as an earthquake is not particularly high, Magnitude 1.5-2 is relatively low energy, but the conversion from a detonation to a seismic event is not provided. They have at least earlier records that they can assess the explosive charge, the photos of November show large detonations and give timings, that record would be interesting to compare.
Seismic Signal Recorded from an Explosion
Slowness and azimuth determination for Bucovina array (BURAR) applying multiple signal techniques