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Old 2nd May 2024, 10:08
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Remember President Biden: “Russia would pay a severe price if they use chemical weapons.”
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They are learning

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Diesel prices up 10% in Russia. I wonder why?

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This is telling, I wonder what there reserves are and how many refurbs a day they can pump out and deliver.





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Wouldn't that just require more drones and that's all? (e.g. one drone to make a hole in the cage and another through the hole to hit the target. I'm absolutely no expert but maybe someone who is could comment.
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I do wonder if that is why they are developing the thermite "bombs" no cage would stop those penetrating the tanks.
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Update on the training ground.

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Originally Posted by KeyPilot
Possible but unlikely.
Actually, I am not referring to a broad strategic or even operational level counterattack.
I am looking at the current advance from Avdiika area westwards at the tactical level for the capacity for a counterattack. (Brigade/Division/Corps(-))
Going back to military history on this one... the Wehrmacht had a penchant for counterattack at roughly "the culminating point" (which you mentioned) of their opponent's attack that was quite often effective at the tactical level. It was an aspect to the auftragstaktik theme. (And no, I am not sure how that might fit into the Ukrainian Army's current concept of Operations)
Whilst Russia is clearly in the ascendency currently, their current offensive will culminate at some point and then Ukraine will then have an opportunity to hit back.
They don't have to wait for November to do that. What I had in mind as I asked that question, as regards the time horizon, is before the end of June. Not sure if they can get in a counter blow in that time horizon.
The big binary question is who wins the US Presidential election. If Trump then sadly this will substantially increase the probability of your thesis coming to pass.
No.
My thesis/inquiry has nothing to do with Trump, nor an election, and the time horizon I am envisioning is during the summer (June may be too optimistic) and at the tactical (brigade/division/corps) level, not the "Take back large percentages of occupied territory" EAC level.

I have an idea that they really do want to get Kherson back, though, and believe that at some point another move in that sector will happen in due course.

As to Kharkov/Kharkiv, I don't think Ukraine can afford to lose that major city, and I get the idea that Vlad's concept is "If I can't have it I'll just wreck it".

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Good Grief

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A clip showing the amount of Russian dead in one small area of tree line. Viewers discretion is advised. Not really body parts or blood etc, just corpses.
The carnage is truly astonishing. I wonder how many of these poor saps are actually of orc ethnicity.
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The carnage is truly astonishing. I wonder how many of these poor saps are actually of orc ethnicity.
Looking at the trees the Ukrainian's laid down some accurate arty fire.
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The carnage is truly astonishing. I wonder how many of these poor saps are actually of orc ethnicity.
Makes you wonder who of today's national leaders could survive in power having caused the deaths of so many of their own people through a catastrophic miscalculation. Putin, obviously. Xi and Kim probably. Anybody else? I think even a General Secretary of the USSR would have been disposed of by now.




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Stalin and Mao klung to Power until their death...
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As alluded earlier, at least during Soviet times post Stalin the Central Committee exercised some control over the General Secretary. Vlad made sure all checks and balances were removed. He has absolute power.
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Old 3rd May 2024, 02:15
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
A clip showing the amount of Russian dead in one small area of tree line. Viewers discretion is advised. Not really body parts or blood etc, just corpses.
What a scene of tragic devastation. WW1 like....

Nutty…..I am worried - really worried - that they may have been Ukrainian casualties.
Blue tape on two helmets and the butt of one SMG.......any confirmations either way yet?


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What a scene of tragic devastation. WW1 like....

Nutty…..I am worried - really worried - that they may have been Ukrainian casualties.
Blue tape on two helmets and the butt of one SMG.......any confirmations either way yet?
on the other hand there are very obvious red tapes on some of the bodies arms.
The clothing on many bodies have russian camouflage, some are just green.

What happened and to whom is anyones guess, all we know is they are gone.
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on the other hand there are very obvious red tapes on some of the bodies arms.
The clothing on many bodies have russian camouflage, some are just green.

What happened and to whom is anyones guess, all we know is they are gone.
I have watched it a few times and it's rather hard (for me) to work out for sure which side the bodies are from. The comments on Twitter are divided (as always). An OSINT specialist from this conflict should be able to work it out very quickly based on uniforms, weapons, and what the soldiers talking in the clip are saying (and their accents). They seem (to me) to be speaking Russian with the accent of one of the eastern (Asian) republics.

One thing that is clear is that this is a terrible waste of young life, for which Putin is 100% responsible.
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Old 3rd May 2024, 05:11
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the US ramping up ammunition production. This specfic factory met the 2027 productivity goal already.


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Scranton fire a few weeks ago

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BBC radio news reporting that David Cameron (UK foreign sec) is in Kiev & saying:
- UK-supplied weapons may be used to strike targets in Russia
- UK will provide £3bn (~$3.8bn) in military aid to Ukraine "for as long as it takes"

I would have preferred 2-3 times this much aid committed, but pleased to see the UK taking the right stance on support for Ukraine, and rejection of Putin's "reflexive control"! The good thing about the UK is that support for Ukraine has solid bi-partisan support, so Labour will maintain this position.

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