Ukraine War Thread Part 2
[/QUOTE]Damn right this reeks. Of fake news and disinformation. It is so fatuous it surely cannot possibly be true, even of MTG.
Same applies to the alleged "plant" making "missile fuel".
The only plant is anyone who imagines missile fuel gets made in derelict warehouses, or that a minor fire like that would do any significant damage at all.
Sadly these pages contain ever-increasing amounts of blatant fakery and propaganda, even to Putinesque levels of ludicrousness like the above.
April 1 was a fortnight ago...
I'll only even begin to believe the MTG allegations if there is a link to a credible US Governmental source for it, otherwise I call "Fake News".
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While I can see you concerns as regards how the world looks from Schotz's point of view, Ballistic Missile Defense exists.
As to the hypersonic missiles, etc, yeah, that's a new threat class. Shoot the archer...
As to the hypersonic missiles, etc, yeah, that's a new threat class. Shoot the archer...
Everybody is targeted by submarine based nukes anyway. I don't think the German public is especially scared of Russia's nukes right now. It still makes you wonder why they based new short range nuke missiles at Kaliningrad.
Strategic ICBMs would be one escalation level too high. Single digit quantity 'tactical' Nuclear SRBM on a Non- Nuke State could be the ticket to getting away with eliminating a Country without severe consequences especially if correspnding signals are sent e.g. by a colurful (re-) aspiring guy.
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And as for MTG
Damn right this reeks. Of fake news and disinformation.
Same applies to the alleged "plant" making "missile fuel".
The only plant is anyone who imagines missile fuel gets made in derelict warehouses, or that a minor fire like that would do any significant damage at all.
Sadly these pages contain ever-increasing amounts of blatant fakery and propaganda, even to Putinesque levels of ludicrousness like the above.
Damn right this reeks. Of fake news and disinformation.
Same applies to the alleged "plant" making "missile fuel".
The only plant is anyone who imagines missile fuel gets made in derelict warehouses, or that a minor fire like that would do any significant damage at all.
Sadly these pages contain ever-increasing amounts of blatant fakery and propaganda, even to Putinesque levels of ludicrousness like the above.
His credentials
Ukrainian patriot. Advisor to Internal Affairs Minister (2021-2023). Institute of the Future founder
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
Or the Daily Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/...ys-republican/
And as for MTG and her stupidity, Is the Washington Examiner enough proof for you?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
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She would probably fail the intelligence test.
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If the Caspian Sea exodus is true then not many significant Black Sea units can do it with a published depth available of 3.7m and probably less in reality
The Kilos, Grishas, Krivaks, Steregushkiy, Admiral Grogorovichs, Aligators and the fleet ilers certainly can't, the Ropuchas would be marginal with a 3.6m draft.
Not much of significance left but coastal missile boats and small landing/patrol craft.
The Kilos, Grishas, Krivaks, Steregushkiy, Admiral Grogorovichs, Aligators and the fleet ilers certainly can't, the Ropuchas would be marginal with a 3.6m draft.
Not much of significance left but coastal missile boats and small landing/patrol craft.
Find: rules. house. gov/bill/118/hr-8035
(A "credible US Governmental source" may sound oxymoronic to MTG.)
mfg
(My first post - I'm not allowed to post links.)
THAAD sadly got into troubled water and was suspended and never resumed. So it would be on Patriot to catch all incoming. With the number of systems Germany has it has to decide what to defend. Some will be needed for Buechel, some for the most important military facilities. That won't leave too many for protecting Berlin.
5 - 10 Nuclear Kinzhals + 5 - 10 Iskander would probably do the job of wiping out Berlin since chances are one of those would get through. Warning time would be ~4 minutes from launch.
5 - 10 Nuclear Kinzhals + 5 - 10 Iskander would probably do the job of wiping out Berlin since chances are one of those would get through. Warning time would be ~4 minutes from launch.
The problem with Ballistic Missile Defense against nukes ist that even if you miss a single one the consequences for a city like Berlin would be catastrophic. With hundreds of thousands to millions of Deaths.
Strategic ICBMs would be one escalation level too high. Single digit quantity 'tactical' Nuclear SRBM on a Non- Nuke State could be the ticket to getting away with eliminating a Country without severe consequences especially if corresponding signals are sent e.g. by a colourful (re-) aspiring guy.
Maximum beam 16.8 m (55 ft)
Maximum draft 3.6 m (12 ft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga%E2%80%93Don_Canal
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This is efficient, if it really does what the label says. 3000 square meters in 30min and the mines are mapped with GPS coordinates.
Impressive.
Impressive.
Well that Backfired...
I'll get my coat...
It would appear from the socials that The Rusks shot down their own aircraft, again!
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Ukraine are claiming a long range S200 shootdown, the aircraft subsequently travelling a fair way east before succumbing... to, ahem, an engine problem, according to one Russian report...
Slovaks indignant with stance of Fico's government decided to finance ammunition for Ukraine through crowdfunding. Part of the campaign is a 99 years old veteran and Holocaust survivor who fought against Nazi Germany during Slovak National Uprising. He said: "We have to drive Putin out of Ukraine. We have to defeat him. I lived through the Second World War. I fought in it. I can tell you there was no point negotiating with Hitler and there is no point negotiating with Putin."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68843542
In four days we collected more than 2 million euros. We want to gain our honour back somehow.
https://www.municiapreukrajinu.sk/
PS: Fico during meeting with Ukrainian PM told behind the closed doors that Slovakia will support Ukraine in joining EU, Slovakia considers Russian aggression illegal and his rhetoric is rather meant for his electorate.
I can't comment on all this because I would be banned due my language...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68843542
In four days we collected more than 2 million euros. We want to gain our honour back somehow.
https://www.municiapreukrajinu.sk/
PS: Fico during meeting with Ukrainian PM told behind the closed doors that Slovakia will support Ukraine in joining EU, Slovakia considers Russian aggression illegal and his rhetoric is rather meant for his electorate.
I can't comment on all this because I would be banned due my language...
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Ukrainian HUR reveals additional details of the Tu-22M strategic bomber takedown that occurred over Russia last night.
Russian sources quickly attempted to claim that the plane fell due to technical issues but this was rebuked by HUR.
Here in the video, the command point of the unit which shot down the plane is shown.….
Ukraine's GUR Military Intelligence:
"Russian Tu-22M was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol region, where it went down.”
"One of the Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, which was making a missile attack against Ukraine on the night of April 19, was shot down as a result of a special operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate in cooperation with the Air Force.”
“The enemy Tu-22M aircraft was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine by the same means that had earlier hit the Russian A-50 long-range radar detection and control aircraft.”
“As a result of the hit, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol area, where it fell and crashed.”
“Note that this is the first successful destruction of a strategic bomber in the air during a combat sortie during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”
For every war crime committed against Ukraine, there will be fair retribution." - Ukrainian Defense Ministry
Russian sources quickly attempted to claim that the plane fell due to technical issues but this was rebuked by HUR.
Here in the video, the command point of the unit which shot down the plane is shown.….
Ukraine's GUR Military Intelligence:
"Russian Tu-22M was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol region, where it went down.”
"One of the Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, which was making a missile attack against Ukraine on the night of April 19, was shot down as a result of a special operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate in cooperation with the Air Force.”
“The enemy Tu-22M aircraft was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine by the same means that had earlier hit the Russian A-50 long-range radar detection and control aircraft.”
“As a result of the hit, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol area, where it fell and crashed.”
“Note that this is the first successful destruction of a strategic bomber in the air during a combat sortie during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”
For every war crime committed against Ukraine, there will be fair retribution." - Ukrainian Defense Ministry