Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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And as for MTG
Damn right this reeks. Of fake news and disinformation.
Same applies to the alleged "plant" making "missile fuel".
The only plant is anyone who imagines missile fuel gets made in derelict warehouses, or that a minor fire like that would do any significant damage at all.
Sadly these pages contain ever-increasing amounts of blatant fakery and propaganda, even to Putinesque levels of ludicrousness like the above.
Damn right this reeks. Of fake news and disinformation.
Same applies to the alleged "plant" making "missile fuel".
The only plant is anyone who imagines missile fuel gets made in derelict warehouses, or that a minor fire like that would do any significant damage at all.
Sadly these pages contain ever-increasing amounts of blatant fakery and propaganda, even to Putinesque levels of ludicrousness like the above.
His credentials
Ukrainian patriot. Advisor to Internal Affairs Minister (2021-2023). Institute of the Future founder
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
Or the Daily Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/...ys-republican/
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And as for MTG and her stupidity, Is the Washington Examiner enough proof for you?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...aine-vote-aid/
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If the Caspian Sea exodus is true then not many significant Black Sea units can do it with a published depth available of 3.7m and probably less in reality
The Kilos, Grishas, Krivaks, Steregushkiy, Admiral Grogorovichs, Aligators and the fleet ilers certainly can't, the Ropuchas would be marginal with a 3.6m draft.
Not much of significance left but coastal missile boats and small landing/patrol craft.
The Kilos, Grishas, Krivaks, Steregushkiy, Admiral Grogorovichs, Aligators and the fleet ilers certainly can't, the Ropuchas would be marginal with a 3.6m draft.
Not much of significance left but coastal missile boats and small landing/patrol craft.
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Find: rules. house. gov/bill/118/hr-8035
(A "credible US Governmental source" may sound oxymoronic to MTG.)
mfg
(My first post - I'm not allowed to post links.)
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THAAD sadly got into troubled water and was suspended and never resumed. So it would be on Patriot to catch all incoming. With the number of systems Germany has it has to decide what to defend. Some will be needed for Buechel, some for the most important military facilities. That won't leave too many for protecting Berlin.
5 - 10 Nuclear Kinzhals + 5 - 10 Iskander would probably do the job of wiping out Berlin since chances are one of those would get through. Warning time would be ~4 minutes from launch.
5 - 10 Nuclear Kinzhals + 5 - 10 Iskander would probably do the job of wiping out Berlin since chances are one of those would get through. Warning time would be ~4 minutes from launch.
The problem with Ballistic Missile Defense against nukes ist that even if you miss a single one the consequences for a city like Berlin would be catastrophic. With hundreds of thousands to millions of Deaths.
Strategic ICBMs would be one escalation level too high. Single digit quantity 'tactical' Nuclear SRBM on a Non- Nuke State could be the ticket to getting away with eliminating a Country without severe consequences especially if corresponding signals are sent e.g. by a colourful (re-) aspiring guy.
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Maximum beam 16.8 m (55 ft)
Maximum draft 3.6 m (12 ft)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga%E2%80%93Don_Canal
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This is efficient, if it really does what the label says. 3000 square meters in 30min and the mines are mapped with GPS coordinates.
Impressive.
Impressive.
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Well that Backfired...
I'll get my coat...
It would appear from the socials that The Rusks shot down their own aircraft, again!
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Slovaks indignant with stance of Fico's government decided to finance ammunition for Ukraine through crowdfunding. Part of the campaign is a 99 years old veteran and Holocaust survivor who fought against Nazi Germany during Slovak National Uprising. He said: "We have to drive Putin out of Ukraine. We have to defeat him. I lived through the Second World War. I fought in it. I can tell you there was no point negotiating with Hitler and there is no point negotiating with Putin."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68843542
In four days we collected more than 2 million euros. We want to gain our honour back somehow.
https://www.municiapreukrajinu.sk/
PS: Fico during meeting with Ukrainian PM told behind the closed doors that Slovakia will support Ukraine in joining EU, Slovakia considers Russian aggression illegal and his rhetoric is rather meant for his electorate.
I can't comment on all this because I would be banned due my language...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68843542
In four days we collected more than 2 million euros. We want to gain our honour back somehow.
https://www.municiapreukrajinu.sk/
PS: Fico during meeting with Ukrainian PM told behind the closed doors that Slovakia will support Ukraine in joining EU, Slovakia considers Russian aggression illegal and his rhetoric is rather meant for his electorate.
I can't comment on all this because I would be banned due my language...
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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Ukrainian HUR reveals additional details of the Tu-22M strategic bomber takedown that occurred over Russia last night.
Russian sources quickly attempted to claim that the plane fell due to technical issues but this was rebuked by HUR.
Here in the video, the command point of the unit which shot down the plane is shown.….
Ukraine's GUR Military Intelligence:
"Russian Tu-22M was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol region, where it went down.”
"One of the Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, which was making a missile attack against Ukraine on the night of April 19, was shot down as a result of a special operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate in cooperation with the Air Force.”
“The enemy Tu-22M aircraft was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine by the same means that had earlier hit the Russian A-50 long-range radar detection and control aircraft.”
“As a result of the hit, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol area, where it fell and crashed.”
“Note that this is the first successful destruction of a strategic bomber in the air during a combat sortie during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”
For every war crime committed against Ukraine, there will be fair retribution." - Ukrainian Defense Ministry
Russian sources quickly attempted to claim that the plane fell due to technical issues but this was rebuked by HUR.
Here in the video, the command point of the unit which shot down the plane is shown.….
Ukraine's GUR Military Intelligence:
"Russian Tu-22M was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol region, where it went down.”
"One of the Tu-22M3 long-range bombers, which was making a missile attack against Ukraine on the night of April 19, was shot down as a result of a special operation of the Main Intelligence Directorate in cooperation with the Air Force.”
“The enemy Tu-22M aircraft was shot down at a distance of about 300 kilometers from Ukraine by the same means that had earlier hit the Russian A-50 long-range radar detection and control aircraft.”
“As a result of the hit, the bomber was able to fly to the Stavropol area, where it fell and crashed.”
“Note that this is the first successful destruction of a strategic bomber in the air during a combat sortie during Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.”
For every war crime committed against Ukraine, there will be fair retribution." - Ukrainian Defense Ministry
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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We’re not taking this seriously - all these sites should now have armed guards, ideally the army.
UK's only 155-mm shells plant reports a blast (no serious damage for the factory) tonight. Two days ago, fire started at a US ammo facility in Scranton, producing shells for Ukraine. Today, in Germany, two Russian saboteurs have been arrested. /1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ontractor.html
Third 155mm factory to suffer explosion/fire this week.
2 in the United States
1 in the UK
2 Russian saboteurs were arrested in Germany.
Russia has a long track record of this
Since 2014 they have blown up
6 in Ukraine
2 in the Czech Republic
1 in Bulgaria
UK's only 155-mm shells plant reports a blast (no serious damage for the factory) tonight. Two days ago, fire started at a US ammo facility in Scranton, producing shells for Ukraine. Today, in Germany, two Russian saboteurs have been arrested. /1
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ontractor.html
Third 155mm factory to suffer explosion/fire this week.
2 in the United States
1 in the UK
2 Russian saboteurs were arrested in Germany.
Russia has a long track record of this
Since 2014 they have blown up
6 in Ukraine
2 in the Czech Republic
1 in Bulgaria
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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DESTROYED: Update on yesterday's AFU OWUAV strike on the "Konteyner" 29B6 OTHR (Over-The-Horizon Radar) in Mordovia, Mordor
«Regarding yesterday's attack on the "Konteynor" over-the-horizon radar located in Mordovia, they (katsaps) whine loudly that the attack was successful and now the station is disabled.
This is the only over-the-horizon tracking radar of its kind, which allowed detecting aerodynamic targets (according to propaganda) at a distance of up to 3,000 km. The loss of this radar will deprive Katsap of intelligence information and the possibility of early detection of tactical strike aircraft.
The factory where the "Container" was produced is already practically closed, and the long-range radar development institute has ceased to exist. This radar was developed over a period of ~ 5 years, and it took ~ 10-15 years to put it into service.» -- ZSU War News
«Regarding yesterday's attack on the "Konteynor" over-the-horizon radar located in Mordovia, they (katsaps) whine loudly that the attack was successful and now the station is disabled.
This is the only over-the-horizon tracking radar of its kind, which allowed detecting aerodynamic targets (according to propaganda) at a distance of up to 3,000 km. The loss of this radar will deprive Katsap of intelligence information and the possibility of early detection of tactical strike aircraft.
The factory where the "Container" was produced is already practically closed, and the long-range radar development institute has ceased to exist. This radar was developed over a period of ~ 5 years, and it took ~ 10-15 years to put it into service.» -- ZSU War News
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Originally Posted by konstantin;1163864, 2
aircraft subsequently travelling a fair way east before succumbing... toahem, an engine problem, according to one Russian report...
We’re not taking this seriously - all these sites should now have armed guards, ideally the army.
UK's only 155-mm shells plant reports a blast (no serious damage for the factory) tonight. Two days ago, fire started at a US ammo facility in Scranton, producing shells for Ukraine. Today, in Germany, two Russian saboteurs have been arrested.
Third 155mm factory to suffer explosion/fire this week.
2 in the United States
1 in the UK
2 Russian saboteurs were arrested in Germany.
Russia has a long track record of this
Since 2014 they have blown up
6 in Ukraine
2 in the Czech Republic
1 in Bulgaria
UK's only 155-mm shells plant reports a blast (no serious damage for the factory) tonight. Two days ago, fire started at a US ammo facility in Scranton, producing shells for Ukraine. Today, in Germany, two Russian saboteurs have been arrested.
Third 155mm factory to suffer explosion/fire this week.
2 in the United States
1 in the UK
2 Russian saboteurs were arrested in Germany.
Russia has a long track record of this
Since 2014 they have blown up
6 in Ukraine
2 in the Czech Republic
1 in Bulgaria
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From: Falling off the end of the thread
That is the only rape those Russians will be doing... lying in a field of it... One is apparently dead, the other was reported as missing.
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From the New York Times today https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/u...aine-bill.html
House Republicans took a critical step late Thursday night toward bringing up the long-stalled foreign aid bill for Ukraine and Israel, after being forced to rely on Democratic votes to move a plan to consider it out of a key committee and onto the floor.
The 9-to-3 vote in the critical Rules Committee was an early step in the convoluted process the House is expected to go through over the next couple of days to approve the $95 billion aid package. It reflected the extent of far-right anger over Speaker Mike Johnson’s plan to push through the legislation over the opposition of ultraconservative Republicans, and underscored how heavily the speaker will have to rely on Democrats to push it across the finish line.
In a spasm of anger, three far-right Republicans on the panel, which controls what legislation comes to the House floor, refused to back the rule needed to bring up the foreign aid bill, putting it on track to die in committee. But Democrats on the panel stepped in to save it in an extraordinary breach of custom.
All Democrats voted to advance the plan out of committee.
The Rules Committee has traditionally been an organ of the speaker, and legislation is typically advanced to the floor in a straight party-line vote.
Democrats will all but certainly have to provide the votes on the House floor to approve the rule and allow the aid package to be brought up, lending their support in an yet another unorthodox vote in the face of Republican opposition.
The 9-to-3 vote in the critical Rules Committee was an early step in the convoluted process the House is expected to go through over the next couple of days to approve the $95 billion aid package. It reflected the extent of far-right anger over Speaker Mike Johnson’s plan to push through the legislation over the opposition of ultraconservative Republicans, and underscored how heavily the speaker will have to rely on Democrats to push it across the finish line.
In a spasm of anger, three far-right Republicans on the panel, which controls what legislation comes to the House floor, refused to back the rule needed to bring up the foreign aid bill, putting it on track to die in committee. But Democrats on the panel stepped in to save it in an extraordinary breach of custom.
All Democrats voted to advance the plan out of committee.
The Rules Committee has traditionally been an organ of the speaker, and legislation is typically advanced to the floor in a straight party-line vote.
Democrats will all but certainly have to provide the votes on the House floor to approve the rule and allow the aid package to be brought up, lending their support in an yet another unorthodox vote in the face of Republican opposition.
