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Old 9th Apr 2024, 04:11
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Another ship another fire.

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Greece to send 32 F-16’s to Ukraine on top of the 65 from other countries giving Ukraine 97 of them!



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Why would F-16 require french permission. Assume he thinking of the Mirage 2000, they would need french permission where ever they go. Originally they were supposed to be going to india but with the recent change in french policy they might end up in ukraine
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The source is a Greek publication, which looks like a surmise rather than confirmed, Using Google website translate.

https://www.newsbreak.gr/politiki/58...yo-tachytiton/

https://www-newsbreak-gr.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp

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In the air the sale of 108 old fighters that are for retirement!

In the event that the achievement of the goal announced by the Minister of National Defense includes the price of the sale of the 108 fighters that will be withdrawn (32 F-16C/-D Block 30, 24 Mirage 2000-5 Mk. 2 and 33 F-4E PI2000), a useful example is the Mirage 2000EGM/-BGM which, after being replaced by the Rafale F3Rs, would be purchased by Dassault Aviation.

In fact, in July 2022, the positive opinion of the competent parliamentary committee was requested for the divestment of fighters and related and peripheral equipment (spare parts, simulators, devices and materials), with an estimated revenue of 117,000,000 euros. The sale never materialized and the condition of the fighters in outdoor storage continues to deteriorate.

In any case, the estimates being circulated for revenues of between 2 and 2.5 billion euros from the sale of the 108 fighters are probably wishful thinking. Especially as far as the F-4Es are concerned, the chances of resale are almost zero.

A completely different case is the 32 F-16C/-D Block 30, for which their transfer to Ukraine is considered almost certain. It is recalled that during their service the fighters of the type have undergone two structural upgrades and today on average they have consumed about 60% of their structural life limit.

Conversely, in the case of the 24 Mirage 2000-5 Mk. 2, of which 14 are new build (the 15th was destroyed in an accident) and the rest are upgrades of older Mirage 2000EGM/-BGM, their final destination cannot be assessed with the same degree of certainty. Logically, their transfer to Ukraine or their sale to India are possibilities, always of course with the approval of France.

The fighters have 'suffered' greatly during the previous decade of the Memoranda, due to lack of support and maintenance, but their availability is on the way to recovery. Today there are fighters of the new construction type or from an upgrade with only 1,500 flight hours, i.e. with a significant remaining structural life. Additionally, the Mirage 2000-5 Mk. 2 along with the Rafale F3Rs are the only two fully operational PA fighter types, according to allied standards, as they have a fully operational, high-performance integrated self-protection system.”……..
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We have a very expensive organisation called The United Nations.

All they have to do is get of their collective posteriors and do it.
And Russia holds the right of Veto in the UNSC so that is, unfortunately, a non starter.
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Actually there is an argument that they do not, the USSR held a seat, but when that folded Russia assumed it was theirs with no legal precedent. So they may not if challenged.
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Ukraine has targeted and hit a Russian aviation training centre.

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Russias "tortoise" tank in action. it rather limits the turrets movement.


Heavy explosions reported in Sevastopol




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Russias new answer to drones, a 30mm air burst fragmentation shell.



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The strikes on Zaporizhzhia





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Close up footage of the Russian Turtle "Blyatmobile" tank

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1777443963588227075

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https://kyivindependent.com/wsj-unco...with-starlink/

WSJ uncovers how black market supplies Russian troops with Starlink

Russian troops in Ukraine continue to obtain Starlink terminals through shadowy supply chains and intermediaries, while SpaceX has not shut these devices off, the Wall Street Journal reported on April 9.

Ukrainian military intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov told the Wall Street Journal in February that Russian forces were using thousands of Starlink terminals in Ukraine, echoing earlier assertions by the military intelligence and media outlets.

Elon Musk, the founder of the SpaceX company that operates Starlink, has denied selling any Starlink units to Russia and said that Starlink would not connect to any devices there. In turn, Moscow does not officially allow the use of Starlink on its territory, fearing it would undermine its tight control over the information space.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Russian intermediaries buy Starlink hardware on online retail platforms, including eBay, in the U.S. or on the black market in Central Asia, Dubai, or Southeast Asia and subsequently smuggle the equipment to Russia.

Russian volunteers then deliver Starlink terminals to troops fighting in Ukraine, helping Russian forces with communication and drone control, the outlet wrote.

SpaceX has previously spoken out against any military use of its equipment. The company has the ability to "geofence" their devices, thus making them unavailable in specific locations.

The Journal's investigation revealed that the Russian end-users connect to Starlink through the roaming feature after the dealers register it in countries where Starlink is permitted.

Russian Starlink dealers also claim that Crimea or Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine are no longer geofenced, allowing Russian troops to use the devices, the outlet wrote.

U.S. Assistant Defense Secretary for Space Policy John Plumb told the Journal that Washington is working with Kyiv and SpaceX to put an end to Russia's use of the terminals on the front.

According to the Journal, Starlink hardware also ended up in the hands of the Sudanese insurgent group called the Rapid Support Forces, which is backed by the Russian mercenary Wagner Group.

SpaceX began providing the Starlink terminals to Ukraine shortly after the Russian full-scale invasion in February 2022. In September 2023, CNN wrote that Musk switched off Starlink near occupied Crimea to thwart a Ukrainian strike against the Russian Navy.

Musk later confirmed he had received a request from Kyiv to activate Starlink "all the way to Sevastopol" with the "obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor" but said the system had never been active there to begin with.

"If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation," the businessman claimed at the time.


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Video. ​​​​​​​HIMARS hit a gas station with dozens of Kadyrovites in Kherson region

The Russian electronic warfare system "Field-21" in the occupied village of Velikie Kopani came under attack. Russian servicemen from Chechnya were also at the gas station: dozens of Kadyrovites were killed and wounded after the attack by #HIMARS missiles.

The occupiers could not hide their losses for long, so videos of them are already circulating on the media.
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More on the tank here.

I'm not sure how effective mine clearing tanks are these days as they are double and triple stacking anti-tank mines for extra effect.

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Actually there is an argument that they do not, the USSR held a seat, but when that folded Russia assumed it was theirs with no legal precedent. So they may not if challenged.
China would probably use their Veto instead.
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Refinery attacks obviously working….

Reuters: #Russia has asked #Kazakhstan to be ready to supply it with 100,000 tons of gasoline in case of shortages due to Ukrainian drone attacks on refineries.

According to sources, agreements on providing Kazakhstan's gasoline to Russia have already been reached. #Belarus is also ready to help Russia with fuel.


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https://kyivindependent.com/sbu-cybe...investigation/

SBU cybersecurity chief suspended following media revelations

Illia Vitiuk, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) cybersecurity chief, has been suspended pending the consideration of the investigative outlet Slidstvo.Info's revelations, Interfax-Ukraine reported on April 9, citing a statement from the SBU's press service.

According to a recent investigation by Slidstvo.Info, Vitiuk's wife started making big earningsafter her husband was appointed to the job, and bought an apartment in a premium residential complex in Kyiv below the market price.

The outlet said that its journalist who led the investigation, Yevhenii Shulhat, was later targeted by enlistment officers in retaliation.

The enlistment office employees who approached Shulhat last week in a Kyiv shopping center and accused him of evading military service were allegedly accompanied by an SBU official from Vitiuk's department, Slidstvo.info said on it’s YouTube channel.

"For the duration of the inquiry into the circumstances disclosed by Slidstvo.Info journalists, the head of the SBU, Vasyl Maliuk, suspended... Vitiuk from his official duties," the SBU's press service told Interfax-Ukraine.

The security service said that for the period of his suspension, Vitiuk would serve in combat and had already left for the front earlier today.

"The SBU wishes to express respect for the media and journalists for their joint work on the information front against Russian aggression," the statement read.

The Prosecutor General's Office announced on April 8 that it had opened a criminal investigationinto possible abuse of office and obstruction of a journalist's professional activities by the SBU employees and military enlistment officers following the incident.

The SBU said that it was also looking into the matter in cooperation with the Defense Ministry and the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces.
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Video.

HIMARS hit a gas station with dozens of Kadyrovites in Kherson region

The Russian electronic warfare system "Field-21" in the occupied village of Velikie Kopani came under attack. Russian servicemen from Chechnya were also at the gas station: dozens of Kadyrovites were killed and wounded after the attack by #HIMARS missiles.

The occupiers could not hide their losses for long, so videos of them are already circulating on the media.
When you see these videos, I never understand why, with such targets, they don't hit the target a second time say two minutes later. There would be a great deal more enemy casualties.
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Probably because targeting emergency responders is akin to a war crime.
And the Ukrainian army appears to have much less experienced professionals in war crime than the Russian army.
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