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Old 22nd Mar 2024, 09:51
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Peskov: "Russia is at war"

The Kremlin has now officially stated that Russia is at war, The statement is not only against Ukraine but "the West" and also they are referring to mobilization.
On my own opinion: This will escalate if russkies are not pushed back from Ukraine, how ready are we to confront the hordes of mobiks on our own soil?

MOSCOW, March 22. /TASS/.
The special military operation in Ukraine has already escalated into a war due to Western interference, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in an interview with aif.ru.
"We are in a state of war. Yes, it started as a special military operation, but as soon as this company was formed there, when the collective West became a participant in this on the side of Ukraine, it already became a war for us. I am convinced of that. And everyone should understand this for their internal mobilization," the Kremlin spokesman said.

source: TASS https://tass.ru/politika/20314217
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Peskov: "Russia is at war"

The Kremlin has now officially stated that Russia is at war, The statement is not only against Ukraine but "the West" and also they are referring to mobilization.
On my own opinion: This will escalate if russkies are not pushed back from Ukraine, how ready are we to confront the hordes of mobiks on our own soil?

"We are in a state of war. Yes, it started as a special military operation, but as soon as this company was formed there, when the collective West became a participant in this on the side of Ukraine, it already became a war for us. I am convinced of that. And everyone should understand this for their internal mobilization," the Kremlin spokesman said.

source: TASS https://tass.ru/politika/20314217
With that Peskov latest gem, strictly speaking, "internal mobilization" is a direct and literal translation.
However the first word also has connotations of "own" or "personal", and the second may have actually been intended contextually as "motivation/incitement/rallying".
Not to say that the ambiguous "mobilization" wasn`t advisedly used by him with subliminal intent...


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All for Putin’s dreams of empire.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Peskov: "Russia is at war"

The Kremlin has now officially stated that Russia is at war, The statement is not only against Ukraine but "the West" and also they are referring to mobilization.
On my own opinion: This will escalate if russkies are not pushed back from Ukraine, how ready are we to confront the hordes of mobiks on our own soil?




source: TASS https://tass.ru/politika/20314217
Oh good! If, by their declaration, we are in a state of war then there's now nothing to stop the west from attacking Russia and totally destroying them! (just making a point to that idiot Peskov).
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Having re-read that Peskov thing a couple of times, it really is starting to strike me as a vacuous propaganda rant.
"the collective West" means exactly who?
"it became a war to us" is little more than rhetoric and jingoism.
He basically said nothing of any real substance!
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We never learn from history. Appeasment never works
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The Ukraine Navy now has a new ally in the goal of ridding the seas of the Russian fleet, the Russian Navy... Remember the Russian tug on fire that sank during an exercise.... yup you guessed correctly, it was sunk by a missile fired from another Russian ship.

Russian troops have dealt a humiliating blow to their own ranks as reports emerge of the sinking of the trawler "Kapitan Lobanov" during a training exercise.

The incident, which occurred on March 19, resulted in the tragic loss of three crew members and left four others injured.

The vessel succumbed to the flames after being struck by a missile during a Baltic Fleet exercise, according to Russian media.

A video circulating on social media captured the harrowing moments as the trawler became engulfed in flames, painting a stark picture of the chaos and devastation wrought by the missile strike. (In Link)

According to a report by Russian Telegram News Page TvRain, the relative disclosed that the fishing vessel was struck by a missile during the ill-fated training exercise.

The surviving crew members, upon receiving medical attention at a hospital in Pionersk, were reportedly subjected to interrogation by the Federal Security Service (FSB), during which they were instructed to maintain silence about the incident.

The full report read: "A relative of a crew member of the trawler 'Captain Lobanov' confirmed...that the ship was mistakenly hit by a navy missile. As a result of a missile hitting the fishing trawler Kapitan Lobanov on March 19, three crew members were killed and four more were injured...The missile that hit the trawler was fired during a Baltic Fleet exercise...Before the incident, the trawler's crew members were about to go to bed when a rocket fell on the captain's cabin."

In a further twist, the family of survivors has expressed indignation towards authorities for initially announcing that a fire had caused the vessel's sinking. Given that the entire cabin was reportedly destroyed in the blast, they questioned the accuracy of official statements.

The report continued: "The survivors were sent to a hospital in the city of Pionersk; one of the victims is in serious condition. According to the source, at the hospital the victims were interrogated by FSB officers, who asked the crew members 'not to talk about the incident...

"Another missile, according to the source, fell into fishing nets near the industrial vessel of the MRTK company, which was located not far from the trawler 'Kapitan Lobanov'."
Humiliation for Vladimir Putin as 'Russian troops sink their own ship' (msn.com)
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Reference #9446,

Looking on the dark side, if Ukraine ever does fall, we could help solve our pilot shortage by establishing a Ukrainian squadron, as we did with the Poles in 1939-1940.
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Reference #9446,

Looking on the dark side, if Ukraine ever does fall, we could help solve our pilot shortage by establishing a Ukrainian squadron, as we did with the Poles in 1939-1940.
I think you will find that they are too male and too white for the RAF.
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I don't know if this is true as some stuff he posts is angled towards the Russian view.


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The attacks against Ukraine shown.

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Strange when they world has seen what Russia has done, they come out with this sh*te. AND for what its worth, it is Russians doing it and only AFTER they gave warnings to evacuate the city.


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Oh good! If, by their declaration, we are in a state of war then there's now nothing to stop the west from attacking Russia and totally destroying them! (just making a point to that idiot Peskov).
Yes there is
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Yes there is
There was a tad of irony in that post!
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I don't know if this is true as some stuff he posts is angled towards the Russian view.



https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/s...73724311412972

Would think that flak jackets would be handy riding a trusty Ural across the Kerch Bridge for the next couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by konstantin
With that Peskov latest gem, strictly speaking, "internal mobilization" is a direct and literal translation.
However the first word also has connotations of "own" or "personal", and the second may have actually been intended contextually as "motivation/incitement/rallying".
Not to say that the ambiguous "mobilization" wasn`t advisedly used by him with subliminal intent...
Yes, I agree. You have to go back to the TASS report to sed the original, in which, when Peskov uses the words "И каждый должен это понимать, для своей внутренней мобилизации" he is saying something along the lines of "And each one [of us] should understand [that we are at war] so as to be mentally prepared". He is not, NOT, talking about mobilization of the population for war.

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Well, well...a Peskov rollback, anyone?
Intriguing, wonder whether someone tapped him on the shoulder... or something like that... should have chosen your words a little more carefully, tovarisch?


https://www.rt.com/russia/594669-ukr...ussia-kremlin/

“We are at war,” Peskov stated, explaining that while the conflict began as a special military operation, as soon as “the collective West became a participant in this on the side of Ukraine, for us it became a war.”

In a phone conversation with journalists later in the day, Peskov explained that despite the conflict de facto turning into a war,” legally it remains classified in Russia as a special military operation and that nothing has changed in that regard.


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The gruesome nature of modern war where there is nowhere to hide on the battlefield….

Ukrainian drone production now up to 150,000 a month.

https://kyivindependent.com/deputy-m...nes-per-month/
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Horrific, and they can use up to three drones or more to make sure that one person is thoroughly dead.
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