Ukraine War Thread Part 2
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Long thread. Seems unlikely - but it is Russia. The differing tales about what’s happening inside Russia may be Maskirovka - or an indication of the power struggles taking place….
Osechkin: Transition of power in Russia is already in process.
Note: It may still take a while but Putin's reign is coming to an end and the process has already begun in an attempt to prevent a scenario of a 'failed state.'
Osechkin: Transition of power in Russia is already in process.
Note: It may still take a while but Putin's reign is coming to an end and the process has already begun in an attempt to prevent a scenario of a 'failed state.'
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Note that this does not mean the only place training will take place - just what the Dutch have arranged.
The Netherlands will send F-16 fighter jets to an airbase in Romania where Ukrainian pilots will be trained on the F-16s.
Training will start in August
The Netherlands will send F-16 fighter jets to an airbase in Romania where Ukrainian pilots will be trained on the F-16s.
Training will start in August
...like the German spy who was landed into England early in the war and because the signposts ad been taken down had to go to a chemists to ask for directions and when they were supplied forgot where he was and clicked his heels, snapped off a smart salute and shouted "Heil Hitler"
Nuclear site captured by Wagner during coup contained “backpack” nukes.
Let’s hope he’s right they’re all accounted for - the absence of any would give perfect cover for any false flag explosion in UKR or elsewhere…
Just as we reported on June 25th, day after the sudden end to the coup: Wagner captured the Voronezh-45 nuclear facility during the coup and that precipitated the sudden & bizarre negotiated end of the coup.
Let’s hope he’s right they’re all accounted for - the absence of any would give perfect cover for any false flag explosion in UKR or elsewhere…
Just as we reported on June 25th, day after the sudden end to the coup: Wagner captured the Voronezh-45 nuclear facility during the coup and that precipitated the sudden & bizarre negotiated end of the coup.
Long thread. Seems unlikely - but it is Russia. The differing tales about what’s happening inside Russia may be Maskirovka - or an indication of the power struggles taking place….
Osechkin: Transition of power in Russia is already in process.
Note: It may still take a while but Putin's reign is coming to an end and the process has already begun in an attempt to prevent a scenario of a 'failed state.'
Osechkin: Transition of power in Russia is already in process.
Note: It may still take a while but Putin's reign is coming to an end and the process has already begun in an attempt to prevent a scenario of a 'failed state.'
Remarkable that apart from one who committed suicide, every single German agent landed in the UK was caught. Some were turned and used by British Intelligence to supply misinformation, the rest were imprisoned or executed. Highly recommend Ben Mcintyre’s books on the subject.
KeepItStraight, Now that is really interesting, please tell me more. I have read John Masterman's book on the Double Cross System and my wife's aunt worked for him in Wormwood Scrubs. What you wrote in your post sounds very plausible.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Reference #2723, more reports indicating a major power struggle under way within Russia….
Conspirologist Girkin says he believes Prigozhin's mutiny was "successful" and the balance of power is shifting in the Russian leadership with powers backing Prigozhin slowly taking over. He says they want to lead Russia to withdraw from war.
I say they're going to lose either way but any internal struggle is welcome - great observation by the terrorist.…
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Conspirologist Girkin says he believes Prigozhin's mutiny was "successful" and the balance of power is shifting in the Russian leadership with powers backing Prigozhin slowly taking over. He says they want to lead Russia to withdraw from war.
I say they're going to lose either way but any internal struggle is welcome - great observation by the terrorist.…
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
BREAKING:
Handelsblatt reports that German government has decided to terminate its agreement with Poland to set up a repair center for damaged Ukrainian Leopard 2 tanks in the country.
The German side argues that the Polish price demands were too high.
Handelsblatt reports that German government has decided to terminate its agreement with Poland to set up a repair center for damaged Ukrainian Leopard 2 tanks in the country.
The German side argues that the Polish price demands were too high.
For most of these twitter links I can only see the original comment but none of the content, as I am not a twitter user. Am I alone in this? For example, in this link I see only the headline but none of the 'long thread'.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Ben Wallace being remarkably undiplomatic….
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
Ben Wallace being remarkably undiplomatic….
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
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From the NY Times today:
RIP General![Evil](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/evil.gif)
Gen. Sergei Surovikin of Russia, a onetime ally of the Wagner chief who hasn’t been seen publicly since a short-lived mutiny last month, is “taking a rest,” one of the country’s top lawmakers said Wednesday, when pressed by a reporter.
“He is unavailable right now,” the lawmaker, Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the Russian Duma’s defense committee, added in a video posted on the Telegram messaging app before hurrying away from the reporter.
“He is unavailable right now,” the lawmaker, Andrei Kartapolov, the head of the Russian Duma’s defense committee, added in a video posted on the Telegram messaging app before hurrying away from the reporter.
RIP General
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And Wagner said they were short of ammo, I’m assuming the 2500 tons of the stuff wasn’t arrows.
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They have arrested someone over the “murder” of the Russian sub officer, and I use the term “murder” lightly as he was serving and participating in the war and hence I just see him as a dead combatant, just as anyone at the front line…
One does wonder if the arrest is actually the shooter or simply an expedience to reassure the public at home that Russia is bringing people to book.
One does wonder if the arrest is actually the shooter or simply an expedience to reassure the public at home that Russia is bringing people to book.
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BBC … Lt Gen Oleg Tsokov is said to have died in a strike on a hotel housing Russian military commanders in Berdyansk, on Ukraine's occupied southern coast.
Ukraine: Russian general reported killed in attack on Berdyansk hotel https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66171638
Ukraine: Russian general reported killed in attack on Berdyansk hotel https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66171638
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Totally agree with this, Biden needs to decisively arm Ukraine to win and stop pussy footing around.
https://themessenger.com/opinion/bid...um=latest_news
https://themessenger.com/opinion/bid...um=latest_news
As we near the August “dog days” of summer, the opening stages of Ukraine’s long-anticipated counteroffensive are proving challenging and costly in troops and equipment. Russia’s amassing of 180,000 troops in the Donbas — 50,000 near Bakhmut alone — threatens a new series of meat-grinder engagements along the eastern front. Kyiv cannot afford another series of Bakhmut-like engagements and the heavy losses they are sure to cost.
Kyiv finds itself in this predicament primarily because of the Biden administration’s long-standing escalation paralysis. Concern about how Russian President Vladimir Putin might react to Western assistance to Ukraine has plagued the Biden administration’s decision-making when it comes to green-lighting weapon systems and ammunition suites that Ukraine needs to win. Instead, Biden keeps defaulting to a “just-enough” strategy to keep Ukraine in the fight without posing a threat to the Putin regime.
In this vein, Biden’s announcement that he has approved equipping Ukraine with dual-purpose improved conventional munitions (DPICMs) — commonly known as cluster bombs — was a tacit admission that the White House egregiously failed to anticipate Ukraine’s requirements and its troops’ ability to integrate those weapon systems into combat operations. It began with HIMARS, followed by the Leopard 2 and Abrams main battle tanks, and the Patriot missile defense system. Now, as ATACMS and F-16s remain on the sideline, cluster bombs have been introduced as a stopgap.
Kyiv finds itself in this predicament primarily because of the Biden administration’s long-standing escalation paralysis. Concern about how Russian President Vladimir Putin might react to Western assistance to Ukraine has plagued the Biden administration’s decision-making when it comes to green-lighting weapon systems and ammunition suites that Ukraine needs to win. Instead, Biden keeps defaulting to a “just-enough” strategy to keep Ukraine in the fight without posing a threat to the Putin regime.
In this vein, Biden’s announcement that he has approved equipping Ukraine with dual-purpose improved conventional munitions (DPICMs) — commonly known as cluster bombs — was a tacit admission that the White House egregiously failed to anticipate Ukraine’s requirements and its troops’ ability to integrate those weapon systems into combat operations. It began with HIMARS, followed by the Leopard 2 and Abrams main battle tanks, and the Patriot missile defense system. Now, as ATACMS and F-16s remain on the sideline, cluster bombs have been introduced as a stopgap.
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Ben Wallace being remarkably undiplomatic….
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
Bravo to Ben Wallace for having slapped him in the chops.
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And then wonders why the US don't want him for NATO
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And then wonders why the US don't want him for NATO
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