The Kerch Bridge Thread
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New photos of Crimean bridge were published. It’s visible that the second road is a bit wobbly
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Kerch bridge new footage. At 18 seconds is the surviving lane sitting on that? It looks like the rebar has cracked the concrete.., and they are driving over that? In the pictures below the film look at the sag in the second roadway.
under the surviving roadway?
under the surviving roadway?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...st-2022-10-12/
Report states the total package, exosives, pallets, packing etc was nearly 23 tonnes!
Report states the total package, exosives, pallets, packing etc was nearly 23 tonnes!
The Baltic Exchange in London, anfo bomb was 1 tonne in a Transit van, look at the damage that did. I've seen with my own eyes the crater from a mere 1,000lb RAF air dropped dumb bomb, all be it military grade explosives and I realy don't think the Kerch bridge was hit with anything close to 23 tonnes.
However, if it was the FSB, why use anfo if they were going to blame it on Ukraine? If it was Ukraine why use anfo? I'm sure they both have access to military grade explosives. My money is now on dissidents/insurgents, but from which side, is any ones guess.
If it was the FSB, I would be expecting a few of them to be exiting the Kremlin via the sixth floor
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So the Russian X-ray of the bomb truck and the images of it, are totally different vehicles
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So the Russian X-ray of the bomb truck and the images of it, are totally different vehicles
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/sta...17645101133824
https://twitter.com/GlasnostGone/sta...17645101133824
And the FSB's latest story claims an even longer route from the cargo: Odessa Ukraine, Ruse Bulgaria, Poti Georgia, Armenia, back to Georgia, then Russia. I'm actually surprised they didn't mention Romania, as Ruse is near a border crossing between Bulgaria and Romania.
The FSB report, according to RIA Novosti:
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The FSB's full statement on the terrorist attack on the Crimean Bridge:
▪️the organizer was the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, its head Kirill Budanov, employees and agents
▪️ the bomb was camouflaged in rolls with construction polyethylene film on 22 pallets with a total weight of 22.77 tons and in early August was sent from the port of Odessa to the Bulgarian Ruse under contract No. 02/08/2022 between Translogistic UA LLC (Kyiv) and Baltex Capital S.A. (Ruse)
▪️ Ukrainian citizens Mikhail Vladimirovich Tsyurkalo (born in 1975), Denis Olegovich Kovach (1979) and Roman Ivanovich Solomko (1971), Georgian citizens Sandro Inosaridze and a broker named Levan and Armenian citizen Artur Terchanyan (1985) were involved in the organization of cargo transportation from Bulgaria to the port of Poti (Georgia), and then to Armenia.
▪️ from September 29 to October 3 in Yerevan in the terminal "Transalliance" the cargo was cleared according to the rules of the EAEU, the documents were replaced, after which its sender was already LLC "GU AR JI GROUP" (Armenia, Alaverdi), and the recipient was LLC "Leader" (Moscow)
▪️ on October 4, the cargo crossed the Russian-Georgian border through The Upper Lars on a DAF truck registered in Georgia and on October 6 was delivered and unloaded at the wholesale base of Armavir in the Krasnodar Territory
▪️ On October 7, with the assistance of Solomko, a citizen of Ukraine Vladimir Vasilyevich Zlob (1987) and 5 other established citizens of Russia, the documents for the cargo were again changed, the sender was indicated as LLC "TEK-34" (Ulyanovsk), and the recipient was a non-existent company in the Crimea
▪️ on the same day, the pallets were loaded into the truck of Russian citizen Mahir Yusubov (1971), who left for Simferopol, and on October 8 at 06.03, while following the Crimean bridge, an explosion was carried out
▪️ control over the movement of cargo along the entire route and contacts with the participants of the criminal scheme were carried out by an employee of the DIU of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, posing as Ivan Ivanovich, who used for coordination both a virtual anonymous number purchased on the Internet and registered in the name of a citizen of Ukraine Sergey Vladimirovich Andreychenko (1988) from Kremenchug
▪️ 5 citizens of Russia, 3 citizens of Ukraine and Armenia who participated in the preparation of the crime were detained
▪️ the investigation continues, all organizers and accomplices, including foreigners, will be brought to justice in accordance with Russian law
▪️the organizer was the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, its head Kirill Budanov, employees and agents
▪️ the bomb was camouflaged in rolls with construction polyethylene film on 22 pallets with a total weight of 22.77 tons and in early August was sent from the port of Odessa to the Bulgarian Ruse under contract No. 02/08/2022 between Translogistic UA LLC (Kyiv) and Baltex Capital S.A. (Ruse)
▪️ Ukrainian citizens Mikhail Vladimirovich Tsyurkalo (born in 1975), Denis Olegovich Kovach (1979) and Roman Ivanovich Solomko (1971), Georgian citizens Sandro Inosaridze and a broker named Levan and Armenian citizen Artur Terchanyan (1985) were involved in the organization of cargo transportation from Bulgaria to the port of Poti (Georgia), and then to Armenia.
▪️ from September 29 to October 3 in Yerevan in the terminal "Transalliance" the cargo was cleared according to the rules of the EAEU, the documents were replaced, after which its sender was already LLC "GU AR JI GROUP" (Armenia, Alaverdi), and the recipient was LLC "Leader" (Moscow)
▪️ on October 4, the cargo crossed the Russian-Georgian border through The Upper Lars on a DAF truck registered in Georgia and on October 6 was delivered and unloaded at the wholesale base of Armavir in the Krasnodar Territory
▪️ On October 7, with the assistance of Solomko, a citizen of Ukraine Vladimir Vasilyevich Zlob (1987) and 5 other established citizens of Russia, the documents for the cargo were again changed, the sender was indicated as LLC "TEK-34" (Ulyanovsk), and the recipient was a non-existent company in the Crimea
▪️ on the same day, the pallets were loaded into the truck of Russian citizen Mahir Yusubov (1971), who left for Simferopol, and on October 8 at 06.03, while following the Crimean bridge, an explosion was carried out
▪️ control over the movement of cargo along the entire route and contacts with the participants of the criminal scheme were carried out by an employee of the DIU of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, posing as Ivan Ivanovich, who used for coordination both a virtual anonymous number purchased on the Internet and registered in the name of a citizen of Ukraine Sergey Vladimirovich Andreychenko (1988) from Kremenchug
▪️ 5 citizens of Russia, 3 citizens of Ukraine and Armenia who participated in the preparation of the crime were detained
▪️ the investigation continues, all organizers and accomplices, including foreigners, will be brought to justice in accordance with Russian law
. Only way they have of avoiding a trip to the Gulag, or out of a sixth floor window, if they either did it or failed to stop it.How do you know when a Russian politician or official is lying?
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It does make you wonder why on earth would you transport a bomb across so many borders and load it on so many different vehicles, one you are not assured it will not be detected at each border and two you are not assured it would all be shipped / packed together, or even on the same truck.
If that bridge is considered to be a main supply route between Russia and Occupied Crimea/ Ukraine, I would have expected to have seen a lot more logistics traffic supporting Russia's forces than there was at the time of the explosion.
It does make you wonder why on earth would you transport a bomb across so many borders and load it on so many different vehicles, one you are not assured it will not be detected at each border and two you are not assured it would all be shipped / packed together, or even on the same truck.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...208339456.html
I'm no expert in this field, but I think 23 tonnes of anfo would have done a lot more damage than that.
The Baltic Exchange in London, anfo bomb was 1 tonne in a Transit van, look at the damage that did. I've seen with my own eyes the crater from a mere 1,000lb RAF air dropped dumb bomb, all be it military grade explosives and I realy don't think the Kerch bridge was hit with anything close to 23 tonnes.
However, if it was the FSB, why use anfo if they were going to blame it on Ukraine? If it was Ukraine why use anfo? I'm sure they both have access to military grade explosives. My money is now on dissidents/insurgents, but from which side, is any ones guess.
If it was the FSB, I would be expecting a few of them to be exiting the Kremlin via the sixth floor
The Baltic Exchange in London, anfo bomb was 1 tonne in a Transit van, look at the damage that did. I've seen with my own eyes the crater from a mere 1,000lb RAF air dropped dumb bomb, all be it military grade explosives and I realy don't think the Kerch bridge was hit with anything close to 23 tonnes.
However, if it was the FSB, why use anfo if they were going to blame it on Ukraine? If it was Ukraine why use anfo? I'm sure they both have access to military grade explosives. My money is now on dissidents/insurgents, but from which side, is any ones guess.
If it was the FSB, I would be expecting a few of them to be exiting the Kremlin via the sixth floor
- 23 Tons, 230 Tons, 2.3 Tons, what's in a decimal point? (Oklahoma City A.P. Murray building was 3.2 T of ANFO... )
- 72 hours to have the whole paper trail for the event from the FSB. Across two countries that they have entry restrictions to, due to their aggression... Pink panther efficiency!
- The photos of the truck are a different truck to the photos of the X-rayed Truck, and not even close. About as good as FSB passports and service IDs have been. They are really slipping. Ooops.
- The X-Ray shows the rat cunningly hidden load!. on the trailer. The trailer is not the same trailer as in the photo immediately before the explosion. Ooops.
The differences in the truck trailer are an issue, as then the question is, when that occurred (apparently the theory of the FSB) how was the fact that the load was a bunch of bombs with bomb paraphernalia hidden from the truck owner, or trailer owner? How did it get fuzed? How did they time a detonation of an unsuspecting driver's trailer load to have it happen anywhere on the causeway or bridge area? This isn't German rail (pre latest sabotage... or Swiss precision, it's Russia... in a time of unease... If an external observer is running around with a phone, to hit "send", how do they loiter on the bridge approaches long enough to meet up with the truck after it has concluded it's random timeline through security? If it is a vehicle behind the truck, the same issue arises. Clock and remote triggering seem implausible, and it doesn't seem to fit that the uncle was a party to a truck bombing.
Some of the pier concrete spalling needs some close examination, it doesn't look like explosive damage, and it is in an odd place. Not certain that it is indicating where the detonation occurred at all, but doesn't look like preexisting damage.
The truck tyres don't seem to be suggesting 23 Tons of charge, nor does the X ray of the rat cunning trailer load... Overloaded tyres look more like this:
that according to the a FSB dossier
In the Nutloose post in The Kerch Bridge Thread one can see the bent guardrail supports along the edge nearest to the still-standing span essentially pointing away from what I expect was the center of the blast. They also point to about where the fallen span got creased.
Those supports would have been protected from that damage if the bomb was below the bridge deck.
Recall that Mathias Rust got to Moscow in a small plane - never underestimate the inability of a security force to imagine something happening. Look at what was lost when a few guys with box cutters got past airport security because the FAA failed to understand that a hijacker could be an educated pilot and not require the flight crew to remain alive. Security is better after the fact at looking at cameras and records later to unravel the problem.
Those supports would have been protected from that damage if the bomb was below the bridge deck.
Recall that Mathias Rust got to Moscow in a small plane - never underestimate the inability of a security force to imagine something happening. Look at what was lost when a few guys with box cutters got past airport security because the FAA failed to understand that a hijacker could be an educated pilot and not require the flight crew to remain alive. Security is better after the fact at looking at cameras and records later to unravel the problem.
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Tractor unit was owner/driver rig who tendered/accepted a bid/price (guarantee of getting the job?) to deliver from Armavir to Simferopol, likely he also owned the trailer used. No sign of the trailer having a tail lift so pallets presumerably loaded by fork lift at Armavir and the drivers of both truck and forklift (if used) could well have been blisfully unaware of contents other than was written on the paperwork. Cell phone GPS is simple enough when reaching set coords, assumig a signal and battery life.
Pure speculation on my part however and no doubt those who do know won't be saying.
Pure speculation on my part however and no doubt those who do know won't be saying.
Last edited by Redlands; 13th Oct 2022 at 02:43. Reason: Added 'accepted a bid'
