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AUKus ALLmighty model photo: UK MoD Awards SSN-AUKUS Submarine Design Contracts - Naval News
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https://www.defensenews.com/congress...sts-for-aukus/
Senators push Biden to release submarine costs for AUKUS
WASHINGTON ― A bipartisan group of senators is appealing to the White House to release Pentagon cost estimates related to the submarine-industrial base as the Biden administration and Congress move to implement AUKUS, the trilateral submarine-sharing pact with Britain and Australia.
The cost estimates are critical to a debate that has delayed key congressional authorizations needed to advance AUKUS. The study is expected to detail the level of investments needed for the industrial base to sustain submarine production requirements for both the U.S. and Australia.
A Senate letter obtained by Defense News asks Biden to release the cost estimates by the end of the month to inform AUKUS legislation. The Defense Department completed the study months ago, but the letter says the Pentagon does not intend to release its findings and cost estimates until it unveils the fiscal 2025 budget request early next year.
Sen. Roger Wicker of Mississippi — the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee — spearheaded the bipartisan letter. Wicker has held up Senate passage of two AUKUS authorizations, making them contingent on the Biden administration and Congress allocating additional funding for the submarine-industrial base as part of a defense supplemental request to bypass the $886 billion military spending cap in the debt ceiling agreement.
“The volume of submarine tonnage the industrial base must produce to meet the Navy’s own requirements and fully implement the AUKUS agreement will require historic and sustained investments in the submarine workforce and supplier network,” the senators wrote. “To achieve such capacity, Congress must have a comprehensive understanding of the current status of the submarine-industrial base as well as the future resource investments necessary to meet our nation’s requirements.”
Three Democrats — Sens. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Tim Kaine of Virginia — signed onto the letter alongside Republican Sens. Dan Sullivan of Alaska and Kevin Cramer of North Dakota. The White House and Defense Department did not respond to requests for comment by publication.….
Senators push Biden to release submarine costs for AUKUS
WASHINGTON ― A bipartisan group of senators is appealing to the White House to release Pentagon cost estimates related to the submarine-industrial base as the Biden administration and Congress move to implement AUKUS, the trilateral submarine-sharing pact with Britain and Australia.
The cost estimates are critical to a debate that has delayed key congressional authorizations needed to advance AUKUS. The study is expected to detail the level of investments needed for the industrial base to sustain submarine production requirements for both the U.S. and Australia.
A Senate letter obtained by Defense News asks Biden to release the cost estimates by the end of the month to inform AUKUS legislation. The Defense Department completed the study months ago, but the letter says the Pentagon does not intend to release its findings and cost estimates until it unveils the fiscal 2025 budget request early next year.
Sen. Roger Wicker of Mississippi — the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee — spearheaded the bipartisan letter. Wicker has held up Senate passage of two AUKUS authorizations, making them contingent on the Biden administration and Congress allocating additional funding for the submarine-industrial base as part of a defense supplemental request to bypass the $886 billion military spending cap in the debt ceiling agreement.
“The volume of submarine tonnage the industrial base must produce to meet the Navy’s own requirements and fully implement the AUKUS agreement will require historic and sustained investments in the submarine workforce and supplier network,” the senators wrote. “To achieve such capacity, Congress must have a comprehensive understanding of the current status of the submarine-industrial base as well as the future resource investments necessary to meet our nation’s requirements.”
Three Democrats — Sens. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and Tim Kaine of Virginia — signed onto the letter alongside Republican Sens. Dan Sullivan of Alaska and Kevin Cramer of North Dakota. The White House and Defense Department did not respond to requests for comment by publication.….
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“It is high time for Washington & Canberra to have a frank conversation about mutual posture expectations so that both sides can set the terms and limits of operational-level integration.” A good piece from @ashleytownshend on US-Aus relations.
https://carnegieendowment.org/2023/1...tion-pub-90817
How to Manage the Risks and Requirements of U.S.-Australia Force Posture Cooperation
https://carnegieendowment.org/2023/1...tion-pub-90817
How to Manage the Risks and Requirements of U.S.-Australia Force Posture Cooperation
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Osborne yard in Adelaide has expanded a lot and will grow further due to AUKUS. Osborne "south" site is advanced shipbuilding yard built as part of HUNTER project. HOBARTs were assembled in the open in old yard (middle of pic) from blocks coming in from elsewhere, including Spain.
You'll get a really good view from the old Car park lookout - just south (left in ORAC's bottom pic) of the new AUKUS pier and on the track on the right hand side o the bottom pic below- the Chinese have probably already moved in
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https://news.usni.org/2023/10/26/auk...ntory-says-cbo
AUKUS Sub Sale Will Cause 10-Year Dip in U.S. Attack Boat Inventory, Says CBOThe U.S. nuclear attack submarine inventory will experience a nearly decade-long dip due to the AUKUS partnership, according to a new Congressional Budget Office analysis of U.S. naval shipbuilding.
To support selling three to five Virginia-class attack boats to the Royal Australian Navy, the attack boat inventory will decrease in the mid-2030s, as shipyards won’t be able to deliver Virginia-class boats to absorb the loss of the sale to Australia.
The dip, estimated to start in 2037, will keep U.S. attack boat inventory in the high 40s to low 50s for about a decade, meaning the Navy will remain short of its goal of 66 attack submarines in the fleet.
CBO analyzed three scenarios, with the U.S. selling different combinations of new and used types of Virginia-class boats, all under the Navy’s first shipbuilding plan. The first plan, several officials have told USNI News, is the most austere of the three proposals in the annual shipbuilding blueprint.…
AUKUS Sub Sale Will Cause 10-Year Dip in U.S. Attack Boat Inventory, Says CBOThe U.S. nuclear attack submarine inventory will experience a nearly decade-long dip due to the AUKUS partnership, according to a new Congressional Budget Office analysis of U.S. naval shipbuilding.
To support selling three to five Virginia-class attack boats to the Royal Australian Navy, the attack boat inventory will decrease in the mid-2030s, as shipyards won’t be able to deliver Virginia-class boats to absorb the loss of the sale to Australia.
The dip, estimated to start in 2037, will keep U.S. attack boat inventory in the high 40s to low 50s for about a decade, meaning the Navy will remain short of its goal of 66 attack submarines in the fleet.
CBO analyzed three scenarios, with the U.S. selling different combinations of new and used types of Virginia-class boats, all under the Navy’s first shipbuilding plan. The first plan, several officials have told USNI News, is the most austere of the three proposals in the annual shipbuilding blueprint.…
Theres some issues with the map and outlines hunter will take up the whole picture bottom section except for the tank farm (Osborne south), the big slipway will remain common use, but sheds at end will be hunter assembly. The small slipway north is ASC and will be doing collins upgrade / maintainence (Osborne north). Attack is program is cancelled and its aquired land usage is in limbo atm.
https://news.usni.org/2023/10/26/auk...ntory-says-cbo
AUKUS Sub Sale Will Cause 10-Year Dip in U.S. Attack Boat Inventory, Says CBOThe U.S. nuclear attack submarine inventory will experience a nearly decade-long dip due to the AUKUS partnership, according to a new Congressional Budget Office analysis of U.S. naval shipbuilding.
To support selling three to five Virginia-class attack boats to the Royal Australian Navy, the attack boat inventory will decrease in the mid-2030s, as shipyards won’t be able to deliver Virginia-class boats to absorb the loss of the sale to Australia.
The dip, estimated to start in 2037, will keep U.S. attack boat inventory in the high 40s to low 50s for about a decade, meaning the Navy will remain short of its goal of 66 attack submarines in the fleet.
CBO analyzed three scenarios, with the U.S. selling different combinations of new and used types of Virginia-class boats, all under the Navy’s first shipbuilding plan. The first plan, several officials have told USNI News, is the most austere of the three proposals in the annual shipbuilding blueprint.…
AUKUS Sub Sale Will Cause 10-Year Dip in U.S. Attack Boat Inventory, Says CBOThe U.S. nuclear attack submarine inventory will experience a nearly decade-long dip due to the AUKUS partnership, according to a new Congressional Budget Office analysis of U.S. naval shipbuilding.
To support selling three to five Virginia-class attack boats to the Royal Australian Navy, the attack boat inventory will decrease in the mid-2030s, as shipyards won’t be able to deliver Virginia-class boats to absorb the loss of the sale to Australia.
The dip, estimated to start in 2037, will keep U.S. attack boat inventory in the high 40s to low 50s for about a decade, meaning the Navy will remain short of its goal of 66 attack submarines in the fleet.
CBO analyzed three scenarios, with the U.S. selling different combinations of new and used types of Virginia-class boats, all under the Navy’s first shipbuilding plan. The first plan, several officials have told USNI News, is the most austere of the three proposals in the annual shipbuilding blueprint.…
I know that that 3b gets thrown around a lot.That 3b is divided among many things. I've seen money to UK included in it. As well as long lead items and deep maintenance on our virginias. A smaller amount goes to the actual US shipyard. I think it is the repair yard and not the build yard too.
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/...or-aukus-subs/
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/09/...or-aukus-subs/
"This is all about the primes, getting the US gov funding a 3rd yard. AUKUS is convenient to push the case. This is how they talk to congress."
given the issues and delays over the past few years a third yard is probably needed anyway - AUKUS or no AUKUS - especially as they are going to be building Columbia SSBN's as well
given the issues and delays over the past few years a third yard is probably needed anyway - AUKUS or no AUKUS - especially as they are going to be building Columbia SSBN's as well
A bit more chatting to congress.Even Rudd did his bit.
Rep. Courtney: Lawmakers cannot ‘fumble the ball’ on getting AUKUS provisions passed
The congressmen said legislation related to allowing the foreign military sales case to be opened passed unanimously out of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and another bill related to laws focused on international arms trafficking, called ITAR, had similar results in a Senate committee.
“What we cannot afford in the future, is the continuation of the most ridiculous manifestations of the ITAR regime,” Kevin Rudd told attendees
Asked about Rudd’s comments today, Courtney said he was “glad” to see the embassies weighing in “as intensely as they are because I think that’s really the critical message.”
Some pillar two satellite stuff.
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/joint-capabilities/13040-australia-finalises-satellite-rocket-launch-deal-with-us
Australia finalises satellite, rocket launch deal with US
The two countries have been negotiating the “Technology Safeguards Agreement” since October 2021 and confirmation it’s been completed comes after an in-principal agreement was reached in May.
“In Australia, American companies will have access to more high-quality launch sites so that they can increase the frequency of their operations “By opening new doors for the private sector, we’ll grow investment between our countries and help create good-paying jobs in both countries.
“And we’ll also help provide more opportunities for American and Australian firms to continue innovating, and innovating together.
Rep. Courtney: Lawmakers cannot ‘fumble the ball’ on getting AUKUS provisions passed
The congressmen said legislation related to allowing the foreign military sales case to be opened passed unanimously out of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and another bill related to laws focused on international arms trafficking, called ITAR, had similar results in a Senate committee.
“What we cannot afford in the future, is the continuation of the most ridiculous manifestations of the ITAR regime,” Kevin Rudd told attendees
Asked about Rudd’s comments today, Courtney said he was “glad” to see the embassies weighing in “as intensely as they are because I think that’s really the critical message.”
Some pillar two satellite stuff.
https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/joint-capabilities/13040-australia-finalises-satellite-rocket-launch-deal-with-us
Australia finalises satellite, rocket launch deal with US
The two countries have been negotiating the “Technology Safeguards Agreement” since October 2021 and confirmation it’s been completed comes after an in-principal agreement was reached in May.
“In Australia, American companies will have access to more high-quality launch sites so that they can increase the frequency of their operations “By opening new doors for the private sector, we’ll grow investment between our countries and help create good-paying jobs in both countries.
“And we’ll also help provide more opportunities for American and Australian firms to continue innovating, and innovating together.
Last edited by golder; 28th Oct 2023 at 09:24.
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https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...ared-sub-work/
Navy takes early steps with Australian, UK vendors on shared sub work
Navy takes early steps with Australian, UK vendors on shared sub work
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https://www.defensenews.com/naval/20...a-under-aukus/
Here’s when the US Navy plans to sell subs to Australia under AUKUS
ARLINGTON, Va. — The U.S. Navy intends to sell Australia used Virginia-class attack submarines in 2032 and 2035, plus a new boat in 2038, leaders said.
This timeline provides a more detailed breakdown of the submarine-sharing arrangement between the United States, Australia and the United Kingdom announced in March.
Those three countries, which are signatories to the trilateral security agreement AUKUS, are working to familiarize Australian sailors as well as the shipbuilding and ship repair workforce with nuclear submarines.
As training efforts in the U.S. and Australia ramp up, the partners should be ready to declare Australia “sovereign ready” by the early 2030s, Capt. Lincoln Reifsteck, the AUKUS integration and acquisition program manager, said last week at the Naval Submarine League’s annual symposium.
Assuming that designation is met on time, Australia will start building its inventory of nuclear-powered submarines almost immediately.
In 2032 and 2035, the U.S. will sell in-service Block IV submarines, Reifsteck said, which are currently under construction.
The first Block IV boat was commissioned in 2020, and the final will likely commission around 2026, meaning Australia would receive submarines with between six and 15 years’ worth of use. Virginia-class subs are designed to have 33 years of service life.
The Navy will also sell a new Block VII boat to Australia in 2038. After 10 years of buying submarines with an extra Virginia Payload Module built into the middle to add more missile tubes, the Navy will return to the original Virginia-class length with Block VII, set to begin construction in fiscal 2029.
In parallel, the U.K. and Australia will build a new SSN-AUKUS submarine that both fleets will operate. Australia is to receive Britain’s first SSN-AUKUS in the late 2030s and its first domestically built sub in the early 2040s, according to a slide Reifsteck showed at the symposium. This timeline would allow Australia’s submarine fleet to continue to expand following the sales of the Virginia boats.
While speaking with reporters, Royal Australian Navy Commodore Bradley Francis, who serves as the country’s AUKUS program lead, said the government has selected a company to build the submarine construction yard but had not yet selected a shipbuilder who will work there to build the SSN-AUKUS. That selection will come in the next year, he added.
The allies do have a contingency plan in case the SSN-AUKUS design, construction and test plans fall behind schedule, Reifsteck noted: The U.S. Navy could sell a fourth or fifth Virginia-class submarine to Australia as part of an agreement approved by President Joe Biden and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.
The captain told Defense News after his presentation that “three is definitely the desire; that is the plan,” but the contingency to include additional submarines is important because it asks the U.S. Navy to ensure it has enough margin in its own plans to sell the extra boats if required.
Asked what events might invoke the alliance to pursue the additional sales, Reifsteck said it could be a scheduling issue or any unforeseen factors, citing a pandemic or crisis that “causes dramatic changes” to people, infrastructure, industry and regulations.
The goal, he added, is to reach a point where the AUKUS partners can conduct integrated patrols in the Pacific to ensure regional stability.
Reifsteck also noted negotiations are ongoing between the U.S. and Australia over the latter’s support for the former’s submarine-industrial base. Though some officials have suggested Australia might spend $3 billion on that American sector, Reifsteck said the exact amount and the timing are still in discussion.
“I do expect a substantial, proportional investment,” he said.
Here’s when the US Navy plans to sell subs to Australia under AUKUS
ARLINGTON, Va. — The U.S. Navy intends to sell Australia used Virginia-class attack submarines in 2032 and 2035, plus a new boat in 2038, leaders said.
This timeline provides a more detailed breakdown of the submarine-sharing arrangement between the United States, Australia and the United Kingdom announced in March.
Those three countries, which are signatories to the trilateral security agreement AUKUS, are working to familiarize Australian sailors as well as the shipbuilding and ship repair workforce with nuclear submarines.
As training efforts in the U.S. and Australia ramp up, the partners should be ready to declare Australia “sovereign ready” by the early 2030s, Capt. Lincoln Reifsteck, the AUKUS integration and acquisition program manager, said last week at the Naval Submarine League’s annual symposium.
Assuming that designation is met on time, Australia will start building its inventory of nuclear-powered submarines almost immediately.
In 2032 and 2035, the U.S. will sell in-service Block IV submarines, Reifsteck said, which are currently under construction.
The first Block IV boat was commissioned in 2020, and the final will likely commission around 2026, meaning Australia would receive submarines with between six and 15 years’ worth of use. Virginia-class subs are designed to have 33 years of service life.
The Navy will also sell a new Block VII boat to Australia in 2038. After 10 years of buying submarines with an extra Virginia Payload Module built into the middle to add more missile tubes, the Navy will return to the original Virginia-class length with Block VII, set to begin construction in fiscal 2029.
In parallel, the U.K. and Australia will build a new SSN-AUKUS submarine that both fleets will operate. Australia is to receive Britain’s first SSN-AUKUS in the late 2030s and its first domestically built sub in the early 2040s, according to a slide Reifsteck showed at the symposium. This timeline would allow Australia’s submarine fleet to continue to expand following the sales of the Virginia boats.
While speaking with reporters, Royal Australian Navy Commodore Bradley Francis, who serves as the country’s AUKUS program lead, said the government has selected a company to build the submarine construction yard but had not yet selected a shipbuilder who will work there to build the SSN-AUKUS. That selection will come in the next year, he added.
The allies do have a contingency plan in case the SSN-AUKUS design, construction and test plans fall behind schedule, Reifsteck noted: The U.S. Navy could sell a fourth or fifth Virginia-class submarine to Australia as part of an agreement approved by President Joe Biden and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.
The captain told Defense News after his presentation that “three is definitely the desire; that is the plan,” but the contingency to include additional submarines is important because it asks the U.S. Navy to ensure it has enough margin in its own plans to sell the extra boats if required.
Asked what events might invoke the alliance to pursue the additional sales, Reifsteck said it could be a scheduling issue or any unforeseen factors, citing a pandemic or crisis that “causes dramatic changes” to people, infrastructure, industry and regulations.
The goal, he added, is to reach a point where the AUKUS partners can conduct integrated patrols in the Pacific to ensure regional stability.
Reifsteck also noted negotiations are ongoing between the U.S. and Australia over the latter’s support for the former’s submarine-industrial base. Though some officials have suggested Australia might spend $3 billion on that American sector, Reifsteck said the exact amount and the timing are still in discussion.
“I do expect a substantial, proportional investment,” he said.
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