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Old 29th Jun 2023, 03:02
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It seeme the Virginia class has a SEAL delivery chamber but i dont think Oz has dedicated fighting f,rogmen? So i guess you give more underwater traning to the SAS...
2 Commando clearance divers.
Not quite the same thing, but...
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ800
It seeme the Virginia class has a SEAL delivery chamber but i dont think Oz has dedicated fighting f,rogmen? So i guess you give more underwater traning to the SAS...
Theres rumors of a a new spec ops force been announced its going to be based on the concept of Z Force from WW2. They did have frogman . Also some of the navy clearance divers are spec ops trained and qualified in case they are needed to assist

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...a274913b8652e6

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As an aside, I haven't heard this before. This guy is saying the US offered us nuke subs in 1980. We declined. time 0.35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcy3Ez53K3U

Hes totally not credible, if you find any forums where actual squids hang out they **** on him hardcore. I believe the best thing I heard about him was "Take anything he says about US sonars in the 2000's with a grain of salt, take everything else he says with a ton of salt"
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"where actual squids hang out "

perhaps "actual squids" are not party to strategic discusions at Cabinet level?
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Old 29th Jun 2023, 08:19
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
"where actual squids hang out "

perhaps "actual squids" are not party to strategic discusions at Cabinet level?

betting he wasn't either
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 05:06
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AUKUS has passed another hurdle. Senate Foreign Relations Comittee has Okayed a 20 year exemption to the a nuclear transfer act

https://www.afr.com/world/north-amer...0230716-p5doiw
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Gee, they agreed on something. Good news, for a change.
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Old 26th Jul 2023, 22:16
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https://www.defensenews.com/congress...ontrol-debate/

House advances AUKUS authorizations amid sub, export control debate
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...aukus-00108455

‘Door is open’ for New Zealand to join AUKUS, Blinken says

The “door is open” for New Zealand and other countries to join the security pact between the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Thursday.

“On AUKUS as we continue to develop it … the door is very much open for New Zealand and other partners to engage as they see appropriate going forward,” Blinken told reporters in New Zealand. “We’ve long worked together on the most important national security issues, and so as we further develop AUKUS, as I said, the door is open to engagement.”…

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Old 28th Jul 2023, 01:17
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Hmmm so NAUKUS AUKNUS or somethiing else?
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 01:48
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...aukus-00108455

‘Door is open’ for New Zealand to join AUKUS, Blinken says

The “door is open” for New Zealand and other countries to join the security pact between the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Thursday.

“On AUKUS as we continue to develop it … the door is very much open for New Zealand and other partners to engage as they see appropriate going forward,” Blinken told reporters in New Zealand. “We’ve long worked together on the most important national security issues, and so as we further develop AUKUS, as I said, the door is open to engagement.”…


"The door is very much open for NZ and other partners to engage as they see appropriate," said Blinken.

Soon after NZ Foreign Minister reported as saying:

But that door was later slammed shut by Mahuta.

"I'll be really clear, we're not contemplating joining AUKUS," she said.

Not only would AUKUS clash with our nuclear-free laws, but also the country's nuclear-free Pacific policy. It's a club we'd have to sell our soul to join."


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But, wouldn’t China want an insider?
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 04:31
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Originally Posted by Buster Hyman
But, wouldn’t China want an insider?
Ah, Machiavelli lives.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 04:40
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Wink

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But, wouldn’t China want an insider?
Not Wong! Already addressed from Australian side, LOL.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 08:46
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Originally Posted by SRFred
Not Wong! Already addressed from Australian side, LOL.
Yeah gladus Lui, actually member of the CCP got voted out at last election. I forgot to tell her party and asio that she was a member of the CCP party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladys_Liu
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 14:40
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Sir Humphrey:

The US and Australia are deepening their defence relationship. What does this mean for the UK, and will Canberra replace London as the real 'Special Relationship'.

Pinstripedline thoughts on UK commitment to the Indo-Pacific region.

https://tinyurl.com/mrxsubfh

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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 16:55
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Originally Posted by Bug
But that door was later slammed shut by Mahuta.

"I'll be really clear, we're not contemplating joining AUKUS," she said.

Not only would AUKUS clash with our nuclear-free laws, but also the country's nuclear-free Pacific policy. It's a club we'd have to sell our soul to join."
She's established the price, now it's down to haggling.
TBH: I don't see how it is in NZ's interest to be a part of that.
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Old 3rd Aug 2023, 17:48
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"The current force laydown in the region, built around 2 x RIVER class OPVs, a Gurkha battalion and some occasional RAF deployments is enough to show the flag and support low level defence interests. But to be taken seriously as a credible partner, the UK will need to raise its game."

The British armed forces can hardly deploy a meaningful force in Europe - the idea we'll ever do so in the Far East is an opium dream.
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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 01:37
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Tomahawks confirmed - only for the Hobarts at this stage, maybe not the Collins.

At least now we have something to put in the VLS tubes when the Virginias roll in...

Australia will become one of only three nations to possess a Tomahawk long-range strike capability when it purchases more than 200 of the cruise missiles from the United States for the Royal Australian Navy’s Hobart-class destroyers.
As we previously reported, Australia was looking at outfitting its in-service Collins-class submarines with Tomahawk land attack cruise missiles as part of their forthcoming Life of Type Extension (LOTE). However the fate of this plan is uncertain now, following the announcement that the Royal Australian Navy is set to field Virginia-class submarines from the early 2030ies.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...e-procurement/

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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 07:24
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Now that makes sense!
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Old 22nd Aug 2023, 10:39
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
Now that makes sense!
I would still think the submarine launched tomahawks would be aquired. They can just use them on the a virginia/SSN Aukus as required
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