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I don’t see the tactical or strategic value of attacking oilfields, production and exporting facilities.
It will not help the citizens, if successful in replacing the present regime, to recover if the infrastructure is in ruins.
It will not help the citizens, if successful in replacing the present regime, to recover if the infrastructure is in ruins.
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19:41BreakingDonald Trump has suggested the war against Iran could be over soon, telling the BBC’s US media partner CBS News: “I think the war is very complete, pretty much."
After a day of conflicting signals about when the war against Iran might end, President Trump struck a belligerent tone Monday evening, warning of even more aggressive action if Iranian leaders tried to cut off the world’s energy supply.
“We will hit them so hard that it will not be possible for them or anybody else helping them to ever recover that section of the world,” Mr. Trump said, meeting with reporters.
“We will hit them so hard that it will not be possible for them or anybody else helping them to ever recover that section of the world,” Mr. Trump said, meeting with reporters.
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It is a good point. Possibly the strongest evidence we have that it was a US missile came from Trump at the press conference today. When it was put to him that it was a US tomahawk that struck the school, he didn't push back on what weapon it was. His response was that other countries, including Iran!!, operated tomahawks.
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I don't have to answer for the RAF's failures, so why are you tossing that jab at me, LB? There is a whole thread on that in this sub forum, suggest you try and sell your soap there.
Was channel surfing earlier today after dinner.
Various talking heads said various things about the new leadership in Iran.
Looks like it's a case of "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" and maybe all Mr Trump did, besides blowing up a lot of stuff, was speed up the succession somewhat since the previous boss was beginning to lose his edge/health. Maybe Junior ought to send DJT a thank you note.
Had a look at this bit on Sky
...the gent focuses on "this is a multi front war," he mentions the ops versus Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Various gulf states shooting at drones.
Like the folks on CNN, he wondered aloud at the US Strategic objective.
What M Rubio says seems to differ from what P Hegseth says seems to differ from what D Trump says...so it's anybody's guess.
Come back tomorrow, maybe there will be a new one.
Was channel surfing earlier today after dinner.
Various talking heads said various things about the new leadership in Iran.
Spoiler
Looks like it's a case of "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" and maybe all Mr Trump did, besides blowing up a lot of stuff, was speed up the succession somewhat since the previous boss was beginning to lose his edge/health. Maybe Junior ought to send DJT a thank you note.
Had a look at this bit on Sky
Like the folks on CNN, he wondered aloud at the US Strategic objective.
What M Rubio says seems to differ from what P Hegseth says seems to differ from what D Trump says...so it's anybody's guess.
Come back tomorrow, maybe there will be a new one.
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Well, this clears everything up. From Trump's most recent 'Truth Social' post. I'm guessin' he's gettin' an itchy nuclear trigger finger. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
"If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far.
"Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!
"This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated."
"Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!
"This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated."
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Wine, are you sure that this isn't an SNL sketch, and someone is having us on?
It has already stopped the flow, Mr President, thanks in part to insurers deciding to pull out and most companies following suit.
Mr President, the easily destroyable targets are low hanging fruit. The hard to destroy ones are kind of important...if you recall back to June of 2025. As to "never rebuilding again"...uh, we dropped two nukes on Japan in 1945. They rebuilt...(albeit with a little help from their friends). Don't sell the people of Iran short. What ever breaks or gets bombed, they'll rebuild.
See 1980 - 1988 for an example of their resilience.
Mr President, the last time great appreciation came to the US from China, the messenger was Madame Chiang (aka Soong Mei-ling).
Expecting great appreciation is a sure set up for disappointment. Might want to consider a bit of expectations management.
The jokes almost write themselves.
"If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far.
"Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!
See 1980 - 1988 for an example of their resilience.
"This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated."
Expecting great appreciation is a sure set up for disappointment. Might want to consider a bit of expectations management.
The jokes almost write themselves.
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Looks like it's a case of "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" and maybe all Mr Trump did, besides blowing up a lot of stuff, was speed up the succession somewhat since the previous boss was beginning to lose his edge/health. Maybe Junior ought to send DJT a thank you note.
He is reportedly unconscious after an assassination attempt.
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An assassination attempt by whom? Someone on the inside? 
OK, from this I gather that it was an Israeli airstrike that missed, or didn't quite get close enough. Might want to give this one the old 48 hours and see what's what treatment.
OK, in 1973 there was the Yom Kippur War, and now there's the Ramadan War in 2026. I guess in 2079 we'll have the Easter War...
OK, from this I gather that it was an Israeli airstrike that missed, or didn't quite get close enough. Might want to give this one the old 48 hours and see what's what treatment.
By Georgia Rowe (lbc.co.uk)
Iran's new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, has been wounded in an Israeli airstrike, according to reports. Iranian state television described Mojtaba Khamenei as “janbaz”, or wounded by the enemy, in the “Ramadan war” - the Iranian media's term for the conflict.
It is unclear if they are referring to the air strike that killed his father, previous supreme leader Ali Khamenei, on February 28. It comes as it was confirmed on Sunday that the 56-year-old would replace his father as the country's new Supreme Leader. The nature of his injury remains unclear.
Iran's new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, has been wounded in an Israeli airstrike, according to reports. Iranian state television described Mojtaba Khamenei as “janbaz”, or wounded by the enemy, in the “Ramadan war” - the Iranian media's term for the conflict.
It is unclear if they are referring to the air strike that killed his father, previous supreme leader Ali Khamenei, on February 28. It comes as it was confirmed on Sunday that the 56-year-old would replace his father as the country's new Supreme Leader. The nature of his injury remains unclear.
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Putin apparently called Trump before the announcement of the end of the War, Trump is talking of taking and controlling the Straights of Hormuz himself.
Another case of fools announcing a war is over, without the other side agreeing to it. I fear for the US, and those that supported them, this isn’t over, and now the threat goes underground and will come at them where they will least expect it.
When a country sets various goals, Trumps chosen country leader in place and regime change, dismantling of a countries nuclear capabilities, the ability to stop Iran being able to project their power in the region etc, and none have been achieved, so who is the one surrendering? It certainly isn’t Iran.
Also targeting Schools,, desalination plants, and oil infrastructure isn’t targeting the regime, but the population, so you simply create more resistance in the population, not freeing the people.
I said at the start this was a farce lead by fools and sadly it appears to be accurate, the result is a World that is in a more dangerous state with no advantages.
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Another case of fools announcing a war is over, without the other side agreeing to it. I fear for the US, and those that supported them, this isn’t over, and now the threat goes underground and will come at them where they will least expect it.
When a country sets various goals, Trumps chosen country leader in place and regime change, dismantling of a countries nuclear capabilities, the ability to stop Iran being able to project their power in the region etc, and none have been achieved, so who is the one surrendering? It certainly isn’t Iran.
Also targeting Schools,, desalination plants, and oil infrastructure isn’t targeting the regime, but the population, so you simply create more resistance in the population, not freeing the people.
I said at the start this was a farce lead by fools and sadly it appears to be accurate, the result is a World that is in a more dangerous state with no advantages.
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The school I think we would all agree was never deliberately targeted, but possibly AI chose it because old maps showed the building located within the base perimeter.
A horrible tragedy, for which the whole world feels intense sadness, possibly caused by lack of sufficient oversight.
A horrible tragedy, for which the whole world feels intense sadness, possibly caused by lack of sufficient oversight.
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AI is an excuse. It didn't plan the mission. Those using AI simply didn't care if it was correct or not and there are countless examples of AI being completely wrong; so many examples that it should not be trusted for any intelligence effort.
This is why the one company declined to allow their AI to be used for such planning and is now being black-balled by the administration; the administration wants to have someone or something else to blame avoidable disasters for.
This is why the one company declined to allow their AI to be used for such planning and is now being black-balled by the administration; the administration wants to have someone or something else to blame avoidable disasters for.
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Video
Longer video showing the drone it chased and engaged
Footage shows a UAE Air Force F-16E swooping low over Al Mamzar Beach to take down an incoming Iranian attack drone.
You are at the beach in the UAE and see a Shahed-136 flying overhead, and later a UAEAF F-16 firing a Sidewinder to shoot down the drone. That’s how crazy the war in the Gulf region is nowadays.
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Do you have any evidence for that? If so, I would very much like to know.
In other words, if DoD policy allows autonomous weapons release, it will be allowed…..
https://openai.com/index/our-agreeme...rtment-of-war/
“……The AI System will not be used to independently direct autonomous weapons in any case where law, regulation, or Department policy requires human control,…
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/0...d-surveillance
Weasel Words: OpenAI’s Pentagon Deal Won’t Stop AI‑Powered Surveillance
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Seem to be hitting the ports again. They seem to keep finding ships to sink, for all the claims that they’ve all been sunk already….
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Video
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IRGC Navy vessel exploding off the coast of Kangan in southern Iran
Reports of a major explosion near the Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas this morning.
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Iranian PR video. Doesn’t mean they were all used, they may well have just stitched together old clips.
Images of the moment of missile and drone launches in the Navy operation of the IRGC against the Al-Adairi, Kuwait US base.
IRGC Navy attack on Camp Buehring in Kuwait appears to have included Paveh cruise missiles, Hadid jet-powered strike UAVs, guided Fajr-5 rockets, and an unknown strike UAV (resembling a pull-configuration Shahed-101 variant, although it could be a different system altogether).
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Someone at Barnwood with a sense of humour….
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Last night, UK military aircraft operated over the UAE alongside our Emirati hosts. Group Captain Sandy Sandilands, UK Defence Attaché to the UAE, explains more.
You're telling me the British Defence Attache to a Desert country is a guy called "Captain Sandy Sandilands"
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Looks like Trump wants an off-ramp and a way out of the war - but Iran isn’t interested.
He’s mounted a tiger and has no way to get off……
He’s mounted a tiger and has no way to get off……
The Al Jazeera bureau chief in Tehran, Noureddine El-Dghir, reports from reliable sources that US President’s envoy, Steve Witkoff, has attempted to reach Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, aiming to test Tehran’s willingness for a ceasefire.
However, according to the sources, there is currently no Iranian interest in engaging, with another source confirming that Iran’s National Security Council has no discussion at this time regarding halting the war.
However, according to the sources, there is currently no Iranian interest in engaging, with another source confirming that Iran’s National Security Council has no discussion at this time regarding halting the war.
