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If the place you move them to is also out of range and beyond observation, you have sent a message without significant risk to the fleet.
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A U.S. official told Axios that the deployment of B-2 bombers to Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean is "not disconnected" from President Trump's two-month deadline for Iran, signaling this is preparation of a military contingency plan should diplomatic efforts fail.
Source: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/ira...source=twitter
Iran responds to Trump's nuclear talks proposal as U.S. sends bombers to region
Iran delivered a formal written response to President Trump's letter proposing new nuclear talks and threatening consequences if a deal is not reached swiftly, Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Thursday.
Why it matters: Trump gave Iran a two-month deadline to sign a new nuclear deal or face potential military action in his letter, sent three weeks ago.
Driving the news: Iran delivered its response via the Gulf Sultanate of Oman, which duly notified the U.S., a source with knowledge of the issue confirmed to Axios.
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Source: https://www.axios.com/2025/03/27/ira...source=twitter
Iran responds to Trump's nuclear talks proposal as U.S. sends bombers to region
Iran delivered a formal written response to President Trump's letter proposing new nuclear talks and threatening consequences if a deal is not reached swiftly, Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Thursday.
Why it matters: Trump gave Iran a two-month deadline to sign a new nuclear deal or face potential military action in his letter, sent three weeks ago.
Driving the news: Iran delivered its response via the Gulf Sultanate of Oman, which duly notified the U.S., a source with knowledge of the issue confirmed to Axios.
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- The Omanis briefed the U.S. on the messages they received from the Iranians and will deliver the Iranian letter to the White House in the coming days, the source said.
- The source did not offer details on the nature of the Iranian response. The White House didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
- Araghchi said in a news conference that Iran maintains its position that it won't negotiate directly with the Trump administration so long as Trump's "maximum pressure" campaign is in place, but is willing to hold indirect talks.
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- In recent days, the U.S. military sent several B-2 stealth bombers to the Diego Garcia military base in the Indian Ocean in a deployment a U.S. official said was "not disconnected" from Trump's two-month deadline.
- The B-2 bombers can carry huge bunker buster bombs that would be a key element in any possible military action against Iran's underground nuclear facilities.
- A spokesperson for U.S. Strategic Command confirmed the deployment to Axios and said Stratcom "routinely conducts global operations in coordination with other combatant commands, services, and participating U.S. government agencies to deter, detect and, if necessary, defeat strategic attacks against the United States and its allies."
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- That letter was delivered by his envoy Steve Witkoff to United Arab Emirates Mohammed Bin Zayed (MBZ), with MBZ's envoy Anwar Gargash traveling to Tehran to deliver it to Araghchi.
- That same week, Trump said the U.S. is "down to the final moments" with Iran. "We can't let them have a nuclear weapon. Something is going to happen very soon. I would rather have a peace deal than the other option, but the other option will solve the problem," he said....
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Exactly so.
Also it is a shorter hop from that base to a potential target and more secure than the home base, so there is far less likelihood that that it will be announced on social media, or by discrete phone call, that they are on their way.
Also it is a shorter hop from that base to a potential target and more secure than the home base, so there is far less likelihood that that it will be announced on social media, or by discrete phone call, that they are on their way.
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Trump suddenly announces he has been told that Iranian drones are being saws giant Ukraine!! Then goes on to utter threats.....
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While not advocating for the Trump team, nor saying they are making the right moves, but the B-2 can significantly promote national interests in the way it is used, whether in combat or not. It appears in this case that its movements may have persuasive impact even before it drops any ordnance. I hope so.
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Well, the rogue neo-fascist nation is a rather recent and hopefully very temporary development.
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Painting scenarios.
As above, or... DT has been told in the strictest confidence that a reprisal attack on Iran will come from a certain direction, so the bombers could be there more as a symbolic back-up reminder.
(*Must seem like an awful waste of resources not to use them while there, though. Reminds me of how the mustered resources for use on Afghanistan were used in the subsequent attack on Saddam Hussein's Iraq.)
*PS Not for a minute advocating their actual use!
As above, or... DT has been told in the strictest confidence that a reprisal attack on Iran will come from a certain direction, so the bombers could be there more as a symbolic back-up reminder.
(*Must seem like an awful waste of resources not to use them while there, though. Reminds me of how the mustered resources for use on Afghanistan were used in the subsequent attack on Saddam Hussein's Iraq.)
*PS Not for a minute advocating their actual use!
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The problem that I see is that the US has been pestering Iran since the 1950s, including backing Saddam Hussein to go to war against them. The Iranians, however, are intelligent, motivated, have significant education, and a can-do attitude, which has gotten them contracts to supply weapons critical to a war fought by a former superpower.
While it sucks that Iran is selling to Russia and are also pestering several Middle East countries, I see continuing this way is like getting bogged in the mud and putting a brick on the gas pedal, digging in rather than working a way out. While one might say this applies to Iran, they live there, same as the Vietnamese the US also failed to overcome.
I presume the pestering will not stop no matter the futility of it all around.
While it sucks that Iran is selling to Russia and are also pestering several Middle East countries, I see continuing this way is like getting bogged in the mud and putting a brick on the gas pedal, digging in rather than working a way out. While one might say this applies to Iran, they live there, same as the Vietnamese the US also failed to overcome.
I presume the pestering will not stop no matter the futility of it all around.
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While not advocating for the Trump team, nor saying they are making the right moves, but the B-2 can significantly promote national interests in the way it is used, whether in combat or not. It appears in this case that its movements may have persuasive impact even before it drops any ordnance. I hope so.
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While not advocating for the Trump team, nor saying they are making the right moves, but the B-2 can significantly promote national interests in the way it is used, whether in combat or not. It appears in this case that its movements may have persuasive impact even before it drops any ordnance. I hope so.
It isn't like the US has a shortage of jet fuel at the moment.
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Iran will target Britain’s Chagos base if Trump attacks
Iran has warned that it will target British forces in the Chagos Islands if Donald Trump attacks the Middle Eastern nation.
After Mr Trump threatened military action against the regime if it did not make a deal with the US over its nuclear programme, a senior Iranian military official told The Telegraph that Tehran would strike the joint US-UK naval base on Diego Garcia in response to any US attack.
“There will be no distinction in targeting British or American forces if Iran is attacked from any base in the region or within the range of Iranian missiles,” he said on Saturday.
He added: “When the time comes, it won’t matter whether you’re an American, British, or Turkish soldier – you will be targeted if your base is used by Americans.”
Iranian state media said that Tehran would strike the Diego Garcia facility with ballistic missiles and suicide drones in retaliation for any US “hostile action against the Iranian nation”.
It warned: “Iran possesses adequate weapons for such an attack from its mainland, such as newer versions of the Khorramshahr missile that have an intermediate range, and the Shahed-136B kamikaze drone with a range of 4,000km [2,485 miles]”…..
A British government spokesman said: “We condemn these threats in the strongest terms. The UK Government continues to work with partners across the region to encourage de-escalation. The base on Diego Garcia is vital to UK and US security and plays a crucial role in maintaining regional and international security.”
Iranian state media listed the Diego Garcia base as a potential target alongside other US military locations across Asia and the Middle East, including a naval base in Bahrain close to a Royal Navy support facility…..
Iran will target Britain’s Chagos base if Trump attacks
Iran has warned that it will target British forces in the Chagos Islands if Donald Trump attacks the Middle Eastern nation.
After Mr Trump threatened military action against the regime if it did not make a deal with the US over its nuclear programme, a senior Iranian military official told The Telegraph that Tehran would strike the joint US-UK naval base on Diego Garcia in response to any US attack.
“There will be no distinction in targeting British or American forces if Iran is attacked from any base in the region or within the range of Iranian missiles,” he said on Saturday.
He added: “When the time comes, it won’t matter whether you’re an American, British, or Turkish soldier – you will be targeted if your base is used by Americans.”
Iranian state media said that Tehran would strike the Diego Garcia facility with ballistic missiles and suicide drones in retaliation for any US “hostile action against the Iranian nation”.
It warned: “Iran possesses adequate weapons for such an attack from its mainland, such as newer versions of the Khorramshahr missile that have an intermediate range, and the Shahed-136B kamikaze drone with a range of 4,000km [2,485 miles]”…..
A British government spokesman said: “We condemn these threats in the strongest terms. The UK Government continues to work with partners across the region to encourage de-escalation. The base on Diego Garcia is vital to UK and US security and plays a crucial role in maintaining regional and international security.”
Iranian state media listed the Diego Garcia base as a potential target alongside other US military locations across Asia and the Middle East, including a naval base in Bahrain close to a Royal Navy support facility…..
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
While not advocating for the Trump team, nor saying they are making the right moves, but the B-2 can significantly promote national interests in the way it is used, whether in combat or not. It appears in this case that its movements may have persuasive impact even before it drops any ordnance. I hope so.
While not advocating for the Trump team, nor saying they are making the right moves, but the B-2 can significantly promote national interests in the way it is used, whether in combat or not. It appears in this case that its movements may have persuasive impact even before it drops any ordnance. I hope so.
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Wasn't that Teddy Roosevelt? A President who was shot by a assassin, intervened to prevent any harm coming to the assassin, and then carried on with the speech which lasted 50 minutes, with an actual bullet lodged in his pectoral muscle. His main defense was a doubled 50 page speech (far more than Trump is known able to read) and a metal eyeglass case. Still, the bullet remained in President Roosevelt to the grave.
Trump, ducking from the sound of a rifle shot and the whish of the bullet, gave a fist pump as he was quickly removed from the stage and driven at high speed while counter-snipers annihilated the would-be assassin. It appears that his famous injury was not from the passing bullet, but the exposed hammer on the weapon in a waist holster worn by one of the protectors that caught his ear as he ducked, making a small nick that healed rapidly.
Such a gap between these two men, both elected President.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodo...1%E2%80%931909)
Reading further, he would now be labelled a radical, anti-business leftist commie socialist pig by the current GOP leadership.
But they do have some small commonalities:
and then they diverge
as Trump works to eliminate government protections for food and drugs and schools and children, not to mention Roosevelt's efforts to protect American natural resources that Trump now wishes to clear cut and ravage with mines.
He hit the nail on the head and I think the root of today's price increases and other economic troubles:
For certain long term trends are forced on companies when they deal with international trade, but for local trade and for short periods they can effectively collude to make anyone unfavorable to their desires look bad by making a hard swing on prices and blaming the current, unfavored administration for it. But now those malefactors of great wealth appear to have direct control of the three branches of government.
We needed a Teddy Roosevelt. We got a Donald Trump.
Trump, ducking from the sound of a rifle shot and the whish of the bullet, gave a fist pump as he was quickly removed from the stage and driven at high speed while counter-snipers annihilated the would-be assassin. It appears that his famous injury was not from the passing bullet, but the exposed hammer on the weapon in a waist holster worn by one of the protectors that caught his ear as he ducked, making a small nick that healed rapidly.
Such a gap between these two men, both elected President.
historian Doris Kearns Goodwin noting that
“Conservatives, who had utterly dominated the Republican Party for three decades, feared the impulsive young president would prove a ”bucking bronco,” upsetting the alliance between business and government that had delivered unparalled prosperity at the turn of the century. Reformers hoped Roosevelt’s vigorous leadership would refashion the Republican Party into the progressive force it had been under Abraham Lincoln, endeavoring to spread prosperity beyond the wealthy few to the common man.”
“Conservatives, who had utterly dominated the Republican Party for three decades, feared the impulsive young president would prove a ”bucking bronco,” upsetting the alliance between business and government that had delivered unparalled prosperity at the turn of the century. Reformers hoped Roosevelt’s vigorous leadership would refashion the Republican Party into the progressive force it had been under Abraham Lincoln, endeavoring to spread prosperity beyond the wealthy few to the common man.”
Shortly after taking office, Roosevelt invited Booker T. Washington to dinner at the White House, sparking a bitter reaction across the heavily segregated South. While Roosevelt initially planned more dinners with Washington, he later avoided further invitations in favor of business appointments to retain political support in the white South.
Reading further, he would now be labelled a radical, anti-business leftist commie socialist pig by the current GOP leadership.
But they do have some small commonalities:
Roosevelt's willingness to exercise power extended to attempted rule changes in American football, forcing retention of martial arts classes at the U.S. Naval Academy, revising disciplinary rules, altering the design of a disliked coin, and ordering simplified spellings for 300 words, though he rescinded the latter after ridicule from the press and a House protest.
Pure food and drugs
Roosevelt responded to public outrage over abuses in the food packing industry by pushing Congress to pass the Meat Inspection Act of 1906 and the Pure Food and Drug Act. Conservatives initially opposed the bill, but Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, published in 1906, galvanized support for reform. The Meat Inspection Act banned misleading labels and preservatives with harmful chemicals. The Pure Food and Drug Act banned impure or falsely labeled food and drugs from being made, sold, and shipped. Roosevelt served as honorary president of the American School Hygiene Association from 1907 to 1908 and convened the first White House Conference on the Care of Dependent Children in 1909.
Roosevelt responded to public outrage over abuses in the food packing industry by pushing Congress to pass the Meat Inspection Act of 1906 and the Pure Food and Drug Act. Conservatives initially opposed the bill, but Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, published in 1906, galvanized support for reform. The Meat Inspection Act banned misleading labels and preservatives with harmful chemicals. The Pure Food and Drug Act banned impure or falsely labeled food and drugs from being made, sold, and shipped. Roosevelt served as honorary president of the American School Hygiene Association from 1907 to 1908 and convened the first White House Conference on the Care of Dependent Children in 1909.
He hit the nail on the head and I think the root of today's price increases and other economic troubles:
However, in August, Roosevelt had exploded in anger at the super-rich for their economic malfeasance, calling them "malefactors of great wealth" in a major speech, "The Puritan Spirit and the Regulation of Corporations". Trying to restore confidence, he blamed the crisis primarily on Europe, but then, after saluting the unbending rectitude of the Puritans, he went on:
"It may well be that the determination of the government...to punish certain malefactors of great wealth, has been responsible for something of the trouble; at least to the extent of having caused these men to combine to bring about as much financial stress as possible, in order to discredit the policy of the government and thereby secure a reversal of that policy, so that they may enjoy unmolested the fruits of their own evil-doing."
Regarding the very wealthy, Roosevelt privately scorned, "their entire unfitness to govern the country, and ... the lasting damage they do by much of what they think are the legitimate big business operations of the day".
"It may well be that the determination of the government...to punish certain malefactors of great wealth, has been responsible for something of the trouble; at least to the extent of having caused these men to combine to bring about as much financial stress as possible, in order to discredit the policy of the government and thereby secure a reversal of that policy, so that they may enjoy unmolested the fruits of their own evil-doing."
Regarding the very wealthy, Roosevelt privately scorned, "their entire unfitness to govern the country, and ... the lasting damage they do by much of what they think are the legitimate big business operations of the day".
We needed a Teddy Roosevelt. We got a Donald Trump.
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Trump, ducking from the sound of a rifle shot and the whish of the bullet, gave a fist pump as he was quickly removed from the stage and driven at high speed while counter-snipers annihilated the would-be assassin. It appears that his famous injury was not from the passing bullet, but the exposed hammer on the weapon in a waist holster worn by one of the protectors that caught his ear as he ducked, making a small nick that healed rapidly.
Such a gap between these two men, both elected President.
Such a gap between these two men, both elected President.
What? You are making things up or repeating same.
Trump was shot. He did not duck.
I am not fan but this is just BS
The bullets were real and a man died ....
The shooter was shot while still shooting ...
Why bother reading anything else you post?
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