WW3 Battle of Britain
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MFFO Hawks
Coltishall, Newcastle, and Aberdeen because it was closer to operational area were used during Exercises during the 80's. Hunters used Honington during early 80's as spares on site with Bucc Sqns. Although having spent time at Wattisham WOC along with an Oppo at Conningsby then Hawks/Hunters were expected to be on RS5, cockpit on the ORP at both airfields and used both types from Leeming/Leuchars during major Ex's.
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Thanks to clicker I have a decent OOB for the RAF in 1985. I created a PDF and added some bookmarks.
Just to remind us of when we had a half decent amount of Squadrons:
Just to remind us of when we had a half decent amount of Squadrons:
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Aaaagh, 8 Sqn Maritime?
They didn't know one end of a kipper from another.
They didn't know one end of a kipper from another.
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Thought that might ruffle a few feathers 
I just thought that as they tend to fly over the sea, they are up there with the rest of the Kippers, stick them in Maritime.
Thinking about it - I suppose they were 11 Group ?
I just thought that as they tend to fly over the sea, they are up there with the rest of the Kippers, stick them in Maritime.
Thinking about it - I suppose they were 11 Group ?
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ExRAF, indeed they were.
Initially, when I joined them, they had lots of ex-V-force and a lot of abos. After the Nott cuts the V-force guys escaped and number of ex-maritime NCO aircrew joined. The old guard (the abos) were of course sierra hotel on PIs and fighter stuff and that was about all.
I have to say many went on to the F4 and some stayed and went to the E3.
Initially, when I joined them, they had lots of ex-V-force and a lot of abos. After the Nott cuts the V-force guys escaped and number of ex-maritime NCO aircrew joined. The old guard (the abos) were of course sierra hotel on PIs and fighter stuff and that was about all.
I have to say many went on to the F4 and some stayed and went to the E3.
No Tanker support? (55 + 57 Sqn Victors at Marham or VC-10's at Brize (That is if the 101 Sqn VC-10s K2/3 fleet had worked up by then).
Is this game going to be like Harpoon in that the only AAR option is buddy- buddy stores and the mission aircraft and tanker have to launch together? It would be nice to have the option of putting a tanker up on patrol, give a command to whatever fighters are up to 'carry out AAR on what tanker is available within fuel range' and once the refuel is done automaticly break the aircraft away from the tanker with a request for 'what would you like us to do next?'
Is this game going to be like Harpoon in that the only AAR option is buddy- buddy stores and the mission aircraft and tanker have to launch together? It would be nice to have the option of putting a tanker up on patrol, give a command to whatever fighters are up to 'carry out AAR on what tanker is available within fuel range' and once the refuel is done automaticly break the aircraft away from the tanker with a request for 'what would you like us to do next?'
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OCU's +
Add the Red Arrows to AD as their 10 AC were part of the 75 Hawks wired for Aim 9L, LTF are not shown and in 85 they had both single and twin seaters enough to make a sqn.
Jag OCU
Add also the 360 and 100 Canberra sqn's
Re OCU's if it was all Hands to pumps then ALL aircraft with exception of Nucs would have been used, as Jags could carry 2x 9L on underwing pylons and harriers had the ability post 82 for 2 x 9L.
Also you miss out the tanker sqns at Marham.and 101 with the VC10s at Brize Norton
Jag OCU
Add also the 360 and 100 Canberra sqn's
Re OCU's if it was all Hands to pumps then ALL aircraft with exception of Nucs would have been used, as Jags could carry 2x 9L on underwing pylons and harriers had the ability post 82 for 2 x 9L.
Also you miss out the tanker sqns at Marham.and 101 with the VC10s at Brize Norton
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I recall one memorable day when 4 pairs of Bear Foxtrots passed south through the Faeroes - Shetland Gap before returning via the Denmark Strait. All Q from Norway, north, south and Iceland were involved with tankers out of Marham and possibly Lossie. Still there was not enough fuel airborne and a T* on a pax flight from Cyprus had some giveaway and was employed to top up the tankers.
Sporty for the pax.
IIRC some 23 allied aircraft were involved in the operation.
Depends when the 216 Tankers reached IOC PN, Orbat is for 1985, C2's were in service, But the KC1's?. Thus the reason I questioned wherether the 101 Sqn 3 point VC-10 tankers were operational by then (seeing the Vulcan K2's were binned in early 84, I would suspect that they were).
In the early days of 360 we argued for a war role, but never had a formal one when I left I 69. According to the RAF Historical Society record on their seminar on the Canberra in RAF Service, it never did get one.
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I'm working my way through the list and adding them all to the game.
Granted they might all not be needed for a UK defense scenario but it might be fun to see how big we can get things. Strike planning into the Pact rear area's anyone ?
Plus if they are in there it's easier to remove them than add them
And in case you think this is complicated/big there are some people trying to get the game to simulate strategic nuclear war. The weapons systems are all in the game.
Personally not my cup of tea. There was an old board game called NATO back in the day that had this to say about a Strategic Nuclear exchange "To simulate the effects of a Strategic Nuclear War simply pour lighter fluid on game board and apply match"
Granted they might all not be needed for a UK defense scenario but it might be fun to see how big we can get things. Strike planning into the Pact rear area's anyone ?
Plus if they are in there it's easier to remove them than add them
And in case you think this is complicated/big there are some people trying to get the game to simulate strategic nuclear war. The weapons systems are all in the game.
Personally not my cup of tea. There was an old board game called NATO back in the day that had this to say about a Strategic Nuclear exchange "To simulate the effects of a Strategic Nuclear War simply pour lighter fluid on game board and apply match"
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216 as Tankers
My reference says this :
"ZD949, ZD950, ZD951, ZD953 are at Marshalls of Cambridge and are due to enter service later this year as Tristar K.1's. ZD948 and ZD952 are operating from Brize Norton as pure strategic transport aircraft and will go to Marshall's for conversion once the other aircraft are delivered.
Once all 6 aircraft have been converted to the K.1 standard, four aircraft will return back to Marshalls for further modification to include the installation of a freight door and then take up the designation KC.1
An additional 2 Tristar 500's have been purchased from PanAm and these aircraft will be allocated ZE704 - 705 "
"ZD949, ZD950, ZD951, ZD953 are at Marshalls of Cambridge and are due to enter service later this year as Tristar K.1's. ZD948 and ZD952 are operating from Brize Norton as pure strategic transport aircraft and will go to Marshall's for conversion once the other aircraft are delivered.
Once all 6 aircraft have been converted to the K.1 standard, four aircraft will return back to Marshalls for further modification to include the installation of a freight door and then take up the designation KC.1
An additional 2 Tristar 500's have been purchased from PanAm and these aircraft will be allocated ZE704 - 705 "