Don't fly over my house...
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Everyone here keeps telling me it's perfectly alright for RAFAT to go on flying for two miles at 300ft eyeball MSD over built-up areas, except kharmael who tells me it is something that should never be done.
And people challenge me to ask me to say what could possibly go wrong.
I say it simply is wrong. You flyboys should do your dangerous flying in dangerous flying areas, where there is minimal risk to the innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for.
We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives.
Aircraft crash. Civil aircraft are designed to crash as little as possible. Military aircraft are designed with much less regard for vehicle safety, with reliance for crew survival placed in having ejector seats.
Military aircraft should not be flying fast and low over towns. I cannot point at the next unknown flaw that will cause a RAFAT crash when performing at civil publicity display but nobody can say with certainty that it is not going to happen.
Please, please, please, Reds, obey European Law, don't abuse that waiver. Fly safely out over the sea where you can eject if/when anything goes wrong.
And people challenge me to ask me to say what could possibly go wrong.
I say it simply is wrong. You flyboys should do your dangerous flying in dangerous flying areas, where there is minimal risk to the innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for.
We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives.
Aircraft crash. Civil aircraft are designed to crash as little as possible. Military aircraft are designed with much less regard for vehicle safety, with reliance for crew survival placed in having ejector seats.
Military aircraft should not be flying fast and low over towns. I cannot point at the next unknown flaw that will cause a RAFAT crash when performing at civil publicity display but nobody can say with certainty that it is not going to happen.
Please, please, please, Reds, obey European Law, don't abuse that waiver. Fly safely out over the sea where you can eject if/when anything goes wrong.
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Please bomb my house as often as possible(NE45 5BP) and stop being spoil sports by going over the Hexham valley with your thrust reduced. If i'm going to be woken up, i want it to be worth it
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...no
But I do know a bit about aircraft safety, have done fmea work, have flown as a humble cadet in designated low flying areas, have designed bits of safety-critical systems, often watch and marvel at aerobatic displays only to read with sadness that the pilots died subsequently whilst performing an equally safe aerobatic display...
But I do know a bit about aircraft safety, have done fmea work, have flown as a humble cadet in designated low flying areas, have designed bits of safety-critical systems, often watch and marvel at aerobatic displays only to read with sadness that the pilots died subsequently whilst performing an equally safe aerobatic display...
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mike.
Where to begin.
"innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for."
1. Our wages are not and have never been tax free. In fact we are the one part of British life that cannot get tax free even when we are posted overseas to warzones for more than 6 months of the year.
"We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives."
2. We have to go through a recruitment proccess far more painful than anything you have ever had to go through to get our job. We earn our money more than you will ever know civvy tw@t. We pay NI and tax. We do our shopping, we pay our bills, we own our own houses, and if we chose to live in a mess, be aware that of the large number of ex military accomodation that have been turned into prison, all have had to be upgraded to meet minimum standards for convicts.
Quite frankly I despise you nimby pumpers. If you don't want a military then vote tree hugger or whatever. If enough people agree with you then we will be gone.
If you do think we should have a military then man the f@ck up and shoulder that tiny tiny bit of extra risk that military aircraft cause you. The members of the military shoulder an enormous amount more to protect your right to whinge like a girl.
Screw you.
Where to begin.
"innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for."
1. Our wages are not and have never been tax free. In fact we are the one part of British life that cannot get tax free even when we are posted overseas to warzones for more than 6 months of the year.
"We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives."
2. We have to go through a recruitment proccess far more painful than anything you have ever had to go through to get our job. We earn our money more than you will ever know civvy tw@t. We pay NI and tax. We do our shopping, we pay our bills, we own our own houses, and if we chose to live in a mess, be aware that of the large number of ex military accomodation that have been turned into prison, all have had to be upgraded to meet minimum standards for convicts.
Quite frankly I despise you nimby pumpers. If you don't want a military then vote tree hugger or whatever. If enough people agree with you then we will be gone.
If you do think we should have a military then man the f@ck up and shoulder that tiny tiny bit of extra risk that military aircraft cause you. The members of the military shoulder an enormous amount more to protect your right to whinge like a girl.
Screw you.
mike-wsm has manged it, his epic last post has made him a parody of himself. Nurse! Fetch the pills.
I'm off to spend my tax-free wages at the garden centre so I can make my free house look prettier. I'll get the butler to lay out a nice spread for when I get back.
I'm off to spend my tax-free wages at the garden centre so I can make my free house look prettier. I'll get the butler to lay out a nice spread for when I get back.
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Mike said:
Everyone here keeps telling me it's perfectly alright for RAFAT to go on flying for two miles at 300ft eyeball MSD over built-up areas, except kharmael who tells me it is something that should never be done.
And people challenge me to ask me to say what could possibly go wrong.
I say it simply is wrong. You flyboys should do your dangerous flying in dangerous flying areas, where there is minimal risk to the innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for.
We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives.
Aircraft crash. Civil aircraft are designed to crash as little as possible. Military aircraft are designed with much less regard for vehicle safety, with reliance for crew survival placed in having ejector seats.
Military aircraft should not be flying fast and low over towns. I cannot point at the next unknown flaw that will cause a RAFAT crash when performing at civil publicity display but nobody can say with certainty that it is not going to happen.
Please, please, please, Reds, obey European Law, don't abuse that waiver. Fly safely out over the sea where you can eject if/when anything goes wrong.
Wow.
Everyone here keeps telling me it's perfectly alright for RAFAT to go on flying for two miles at 300ft eyeball MSD over built-up areas, except kharmael who tells me it is something that should never be done.
And people challenge me to ask me to say what could possibly go wrong.
I say it simply is wrong. You flyboys should do your dangerous flying in dangerous flying areas, where there is minimal risk to the innocent civilians who have to pay your tax-free wages and accommodation and food and whatever else we have to pay for.
We have to find jobs, earn our money, pay, tax and ni, save up to buy our homes, pay all our own bills, do our own shopping and pay for everything ourselves. You get it all laid on so you don't undertand how by putting putting our town at risk you upset us and could destroy our whole lives.
Aircraft crash. Civil aircraft are designed to crash as little as possible. Military aircraft are designed with much less regard for vehicle safety, with reliance for crew survival placed in having ejector seats.
Military aircraft should not be flying fast and low over towns. I cannot point at the next unknown flaw that will cause a RAFAT crash when performing at civil publicity display but nobody can say with certainty that it is not going to happen.
Please, please, please, Reds, obey European Law, don't abuse that waiver. Fly safely out over the sea where you can eject if/when anything goes wrong.
Wow.
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Hi Guys, sorry I got the income tax situation wrong, picked it up on this forum quite recently from someone who seemed to know. Please accept my apologies. Thanks!
Tourist - I'm all in favour of having military forces and indeed have participated as a volunteer on occasion. What I object to is one specific item - rafat's defiance of European Law and abuse, in my considered opinion, of that one particular waiver. I don't object to your language, indeed would love to retaliate in kind, but please remember this is a public forum where you are on display as much as you would be when on parade, or perhaps when sunning yourself by the rooftop pool of a French chateau. 
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But of course in the military you don't pay tax and get free food and accommodation
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Sorry guys probably my fault I quote myself post 71:
For goodness sake Mike are you naive or just not on this planet?
BTW, have you got a chip on your shoulder? :
Did you by any chance apply to join the Royal Air Force as a pilot and get rejected?
But of course in the military you don't pay tax and get free food and accommodation 
BTW, have you got a chip on your shoulder? :
....have flown as a humble cadet
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Hi Exocet - Nope, went off to Smiths, the maker whose name was obscured by blood. Sorry, thought that was the gloating smiley, now let's try it, ah, "colon p", dunno what the p stands for. I've been on this planet quite a while but I'll never understand these humans.
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Mike
Would you refer to the paragraph about European flying regulations that you say the Reds are defying?
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP403.PDF
I'm genuinely intrigued -
Would you refer to the paragraph about European flying regulations that you say the Reds are defying?
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP403.PDF
I'm genuinely intrigued -
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Mike-wsm, I came on here and defended you a few pages ago because I thought you were being reasonable and got some shoddy treatment. I was wrong, that post you put up earlier was the most bitter & childish piece of drivel I've seen in a long time. I'm not going to ask what on earth taxes and job hunting have to do with low flying because we both know the answer - nothing. It was just you spouting bile.
So to any one who I offended when I tried to defend him - sorry, it looks like I was wrong and I was wasting my time.
So to any one who I offended when I tried to defend him - sorry, it looks like I was wrong and I was wasting my time.
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I think "mike-wsm" has ensured that nothing he writes here in future will ever be taken seriously again.
That totally uninformed and vitriolic post above must qualify for number one position in the NIMBY Bigotry Awards of 2012.
That totally uninformed and vitriolic post above must qualify for number one position in the NIMBY Bigotry Awards of 2012.
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.....eyesight, dear boy, eyesight -2.50 diopters in my left eye
