Don't fly over my house...

[glad rag]

And how, pray tell, does this have any bearing on routine ops at Valley?

Is it because day iz black?





now I've gone and done it

[brokenlink]

Biggin Hill - Summer 1940

There was also a councillor from a ward close to Biggin who, during the battle, telephoned the station commander and complained that his AOR had recieved "more than its fair share of jettisoned Luftwaffe bombs, so would the Station Commander kindly make arrangements to intercept the Germans elsewhere"

Priceless.

Where we now live we are close to the former RAF Mepal and its nice to see the Spits from Duxford practicing their aeros over the top during the summer.

Low flying - more of it please.

[Shannon volmet]

Perhaps, the next time he rings ops to complain, the person who takes the call should ask, "Are you sure it's one of ours?"

[500N]

"Perhaps, the next time he rings ops to complain, the person who takes the call should "

Tell him if he keeps ringing, we'll give the exact location to the Germans
and ask them t be a bit more accurate !



In regards to Jettisoning bombs, my grand parents told me a story once of a house in the country, miles from anyone else that was hit by a German bomb they thought was jettisoned - or maybe the Germans just decided to make some use of it instead of hitting a ploughed field. The owners were very pissed off.

[Q-RTF-X]

The man's an idiot paranoid knobhead, plain and simple. Mainly simple.

What an utter tosser.

Unfortunately, he would seem to be more a cunning, calculating, back-stabbing, self-serving s**t whose survival skills are finely honed. He needs watching very carefully; it might be a mistake to underrate him..


PS. I could accept that among many things he's an ass***e

[Running_In]

Why is everyone so horrible to any one non mil who has a genuine concern over the way we do things? As a group we really are our own worst enemy's. Do you guys ever stop to think who pays for it all?

[500N]

Running In

I wouldn't say it is just mil vs non mil, I look at it as a pathological hatred
of the NIMBY's.

And that is especially so of those that move somewhere - like near
an airport or an airfield - and then start complaining.

We have them here in Aus as well.

That's my HO.
.

[A2QFI]

We all pay for it, including those who do perform the actions that upset the Nimbys and the other snivelling gits. We are all tax payers!

[Running_In]

I mean the guy is wsm, not the douche on Anglesea. I think being concerned about 9 single engine fast jets overhead a BUA @ 300' is on the right side of the reasonable line but he got smoked. The mob attitude that labels anyone who has a concern a nimby is lazy and a bit sad. The fact we pay for it as well isn't relevant seeing as I'm talking about the right to scrutiny of outsiders.

[Exascot]

We all pay for it, including those who do perform the actions that upset the Nimbys and the other snivelling gits. We are all tax payers!

A2QFI, you beat me to it by minutes. But of course in the military you don't pay tax and get free food and accommodation

An aside about jettisoned bombs; Mrs Exascot's grandfather was a submariner in WWI and the poor chap got killed off the coast of Scotland in WWII on a frigate by a jettisoned bomb. Not sure if it was theirs or ours. Now that really was wrong place wrong time.

[A2QFI]

"wsm" what is that? Douche on Anglesea? (it is Anglesey actually). If you aren't military than you aren't anything to do with how WE do things. Enemy's? Enemy's what? Try Enemies GCSE English a bit of a struggle?

[RS15]

Maybe Mr Anglesey also hasn't considered collecting 10 tonnes of Westland's finest yellow hardware onto his house after collecting his weather balloon. And no, in standard N Wales weather might not see it. Last time I took a SK to a local Valley school, all the kids, teachers and parents loved it - and the FJs as well!! Try lifting a few hundred children out of the back of a SK - take rear steps next time😳

[DX Wombat]

GCSE English a bit of a struggle?

A2QFI - now you know why the grading system needs to be reviewed. Those particular mistakes would have downgraded the writer to a simple A grade instead of A*.
I have a serious complaint or three regarding low flying. Firstly none of your low flying routes is located anywhere near my house. Secondly - I'm not in the aircraft doing the low flying and lastly, when I am at Shobdon do you think the Hercules pilots could be persuaded to use the QFE for the level at the bottom of the Dead Sea instead of the top?

[A2QFI]

I am unable to address your comments or complaints. I am no longer a serving member of the Armed Forces. There are well established channels for dealing with comments, questions and complaints about low flying and this forum isn't for any of them, except perhaps the comments.

Try this channel to the MOD

Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Air Safety and Aviation | Low Flying | How do I complain about military low flying activity?

[DX Wombat]

I might just be tempted to use that url sometime.

[mike-wsm]

A2QF1

Thank you for kindly posting that link. Alas they disclaim responsibility for RAFAT transgressions. Not on active operational duty. Yet the CAA is not in a position to enforce civil air display restrictions on military aircraft.

This thread is titled "Don't fly over my house..." so it would appear open to anyone whose house is overflown, whether on Anglesey or elsewhere.

It is not just my life and my house at vanishingly small risk, it is our whole population and our whole town, and indeed all towns over which RAFAT display. So far they have had their accidents at sea and in fields. But if they go on as they are doing, then sooner or later one of them will have a bird strike, equipment malfunction, or medical emergency 300ft above the rooftops of some unfortunate town.

Dozens of innocent civilians killed. Houses and entire shopping centre demolished. Years of official enquiry. RAF personnel questioned. Cultural values questioned. Psychiatric remedies recommended.

[A2QFI]

If it is a vanishingly small risk I can't see your problem.

[Exascot]

Mike WSM:

And as a non-mil it's time I bid you guys a fond farewell and headed back to the deep, dark, dank dungeons of JB.

He obviously found his way out

[Tourist]

mike

All life has risks.

The risks in the western world are far lower than those in much of the rest due in no small part to the risks taken on by the military over the years in defending you.

There is currently a war going on that has been going on for longer than WW1 or WW2, and carries a very high risk to those servicemen involved.

If the small risks that you must run due to the military practising above you for that war upset you then may I suggest you pour yourself a large glass of man the F@$k up.

[mike-wsm]

Tourist

Please read my posts more carefully. This was RAFAT. At 300ft MSD. In a BUA. As they do several times a week.

Nothing to do with combat training.

Exocet

Yea, well, if you summon dragons...