Don't fly over my house...
My understanding is that the RAF does not conduct low level ops and that we (they as I'm ex) haven't done so since GW1, so why do we practise it?
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Witney
Age: 43
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What do you mean by bounced?
I do pity A2QFI. It really says something when you're more concerned about spelling over the points someone is making. He / She comes across as a pompous person.
I stand by what I said, we should be constructive when people like mike-wsm have concerns. Bullying them Ito submission isn't winning. I saw RAFAT over Newcastle on TV at the weekend I'm sure that they have a safety plan but the average guy in the street doesn't. It took a long time before someone took the time to explain to mike-wsm why he didn't have to be so concerned.
I do pity A2QFI. It really says something when you're more concerned about spelling over the points someone is making. He / She comes across as a pompous person.
I stand by what I said, we should be constructive when people like mike-wsm have concerns. Bullying them Ito submission isn't winning. I saw RAFAT over Newcastle on TV at the weekend I'm sure that they have a safety plan but the average guy in the street doesn't. It took a long time before someone took the time to explain to mike-wsm why he didn't have to be so concerned.
Last edited by Running_In; 18th Sep 2012 at 06:57.
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Witney
Age: 43
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Fair enough if you think Im pompous but I posted out of frustration. I'm a service pilot and when I read mike-wsm's post I thought it was pretty reasonable and all it need was a reasonable 'this is why it's safe' reply but instead there was an aggressive backlash.
So what I'm wondering is why are pilots so sensitive to outsiders?
So what I'm wondering is why are pilots so sensitive to outsiders?
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: oxford
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's not the noise that worries me, it's the cavalier attitude. One has only to read the official accident reports to learn just what attitude some allegedly professional service pilots have toward safety procedures. If they overfly, be scared, very, very scared.
RI
Mike is probably a lovely chap, but when he wants to play on the military forum, he should start off by playing nicely.
Last edited by lj101; 18th Sep 2012 at 08:12.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bouncing around the Holding pattern
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been reading this thread with a little interest, more so in the treatment of "outsiders" than the main topic, which seems to be some prat making a prat of himself again.
I have to agree with LJ on this one, if you're going to post in a military forum, and don't want to be treated like a troll or a pompous arse don't open with a statement as above, insinuating that mil pilots are all cowboys who deliberately endanger the folks we are sworn to protect for self gratification or negligence....... Mike WSM, please take note of this.....
I have to agree with LJ on this one, if you're going to post in a military forum, and don't want to be treated like a troll or a pompous arse don't open with a statement as above, insinuating that mil pilots are all cowboys who deliberately endanger the folks we are sworn to protect for self gratification or negligence....... Mike WSM, please take note of this.....
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Going deeper underground
Age: 55
Posts: 332
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And don't expect a straight answer to a troll-like post when you could have:
- Googled 'Red Arrows public relations'
- got this link RAF Red Arrows - Contact us
- asked the team how they are regulated
- been reassured by the professionals
- and maybe got an invitation to have a visit.
Registered User **
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Botswana & Greece
Age: 68
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I wish that the Greek Fighter Guys here would roll over the top ridge of our island (3,000 ft) instead of 'bunting' it would be far more exciting for us when we are up there. As we know I can't photograph them because I understand that the prison food here is cr@p 
They could of course be Turks not Greek
They could of course be Turks not Greek
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: East Midlands
Age: 84
Posts: 1,511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am not pompous, I just think that spelling and grammar add something to a post, but then I took my exams in the late 50s when such things mattered and were taken into account before granting a "Pass". Please enlighten me/us about this Anglesea douche - I am still waiting and interested.
Last edited by A2QFI; 18th Sep 2012 at 11:34.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,020
Received 2,899 Likes
on
1,241 Posts
I use an iphone too but I find it is my fingers that are cr*p not my spelling LOL
Pigs Tits Syndrome..... 21%. of the UK population appears to have fingers shaped this way.
Last edited by NutLoose; 19th Sep 2012 at 08:33.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Farnham, Surrey
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wasn't there an F-4 out of Leuchars where the pilot suffered a heart attack, lost conciousness and the nav had to eject after trying everything he could to revive him. Mainly bashing him on the shoulder with a circuit-breaker popper, or some such.
This was over the North Sea, late 80s, early 90s?
This was over the North Sea, late 80s, early 90s?
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: oxford
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A heartening report in my local rag, the West Briton, last week. Can't locate the online version for a link, so I'll summarise.
A local horserider complained to St Keverne Parish Council (down The Lizard) that her horse had been spooked by a Merlin in the neighbourhood of Old Dean Quarry, which RNAS Culdrose uses as an approved site to practise confined area landings. Councillor Russell Hosken told the council "I feel this is a small inconvenience when we realise what the outcome of that training is", and Councillor Bill Frisken added "I wouldnt want to go too far on this one"
Nice to know that some in authority, admittedly at the lowest tier of government, realise that big noisy helicopters are there for a purpose, and not just to frighten the horses
A local horserider complained to St Keverne Parish Council (down The Lizard) that her horse had been spooked by a Merlin in the neighbourhood of Old Dean Quarry, which RNAS Culdrose uses as an approved site to practise confined area landings. Councillor Russell Hosken told the council "I feel this is a small inconvenience when we realise what the outcome of that training is", and Councillor Bill Frisken added "I wouldnt want to go too far on this one"
Nice to know that some in authority, admittedly at the lowest tier of government, realise that big noisy helicopters are there for a purpose, and not just to frighten the horses
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uk
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And will this incident and the comments of the Councillor be enough to encourage horse riders to give the area a wider birth - of course it won't.
Last edited by tailchase; 20th Sep 2012 at 06:44.
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: on the beach
Posts: 359
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is for the gentleman who said uncommanded in-flight ejection is not possible:
ASN Aircraft accident 22-OCT-1987 BAe Harrier II GR.5 ZD325
ASN Aircraft accident 22-OCT-1987 BAe Harrier II GR.5 ZD325
Join Date: May 2007
Location: -
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mike,
Without wishing to be difficult, that link mentions nothing of 'uncommanded' ejection but hints that a chap pulled the wrong handle whilst under the effects of hypoxia (easy enough to do but unlikely if taking part in a low level aerobatic display).
Sorry if I've misconstrued your point.
Regards,
Dash 2
Without wishing to be difficult, that link mentions nothing of 'uncommanded' ejection but hints that a chap pulled the wrong handle whilst under the effects of hypoxia (easy enough to do but unlikely if taking part in a low level aerobatic display).
Sorry if I've misconstrued your point.
Regards,
Dash 2