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Be cheaper than the F-18's/Grippen being offered to Brazil.....Lula was ready to pull the trigger until the Brazilians started crying about the "supposed" price of the French offer...add the pressures from the White House and no sales....
1st sale likely wont be a high profit making event for Dassault...If they saw it as a door to sales elsewhere and took a hit with the Brazilians, we would probably be seeing Rafale's down in Santa Cruz, RJ already.
1st sale likely wont be a high profit making event for Dassault...If they saw it as a door to sales elsewhere and took a hit with the Brazilians, we would probably be seeing Rafale's down in Santa Cruz, RJ already.
Aircraft had landed, and was engaged with an ASM, oh dear no air to air kill for the French AF
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Didn't a Bucc crew hit a taxying aircraft during GW1 too?
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Local news channel reporting that the French Joint Chiefs have issued a statement saying the aircraft was destroyed on the ground by an ASM. Apparently it had just landed.
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Rumours that it was an AASM - Armement Air-Sol Modulaire (Air-to-Ground Modular Weapon) used to take out the Soko Galeb.
AASM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
TJ
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TJ
Any reports on what is was up to during its flight? Hopefully it wasn't some stude just completing his solo.
Serious point - if an aircraft does take off, would RoE typically require it to be challenged before it is engaged to give it an opportunity to land? Or does the fact it has violated the UN resolution mean that it can be engaged with no requirement for a challenge to be issued?
Serious point - if an aircraft does take off, would RoE typically require it to be challenged before it is engaged to give it an opportunity to land? Or does the fact it has violated the UN resolution mean that it can be engaged with no requirement for a challenge to be issued?
Superb question, but one might ask how one hails a jet in that situation? Can the French pilot assume that the Libyan pilot speaks French? Probably not. Should he not be hailed in Arabic? Oh, wait, don't we have Arab League fighters up there sustaining the NFZ? Would that not be handy to have someone hail ... assuming the dialects for different nations among Arabic speakers didn't muddle the hail ...
On the other hand
He went up to fly, and then very soon went back down to ground, so at the time of the attack, he was not violating the "no fly zone" though one can argue "hot pursuit" and such ...
A message well sent by our Froggy Friends: you fly, you die.
On the other hand
He went up to fly, and then very soon went back down to ground, so at the time of the attack, he was not violating the "no fly zone" though one can argue "hot pursuit" and such ...
A message well sent by our Froggy Friends: you fly, you die.
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Back to the USAF for a moment. Interesting story on post incident treatment for Eagle pilots
Pilots Rescued in Libya Undergo Psychological and Medical Screening - ABC News
Pilots Rescued in Libya Undergo Psychological and Medical Screening - ABC News
They should have seen how chipper the old farmer who lost his leg was - he wasn't in need of any stress counselling. Mind you, he was probably looking forward to that huge (by his standards) compensation payout.
Lt. Cmdr. Jim Hoeft,a spokesman for the Libyan campaign, Joint Task Force Odyssey Dawn, called the F-15 flight crew's ordeal "a negative isolating experience," and said reintegration was intended to get them from "the incident back to their normal duty status." Hoeft said an important part of reintegration was creating a stress-free environment for the crew.
There was a time when, if one had a mishap that required an ejection, the institutional response was to pull out green felt for the board the aircrew would be sitting at soon after ...
Times have changed.
Glad the crew are around to eventually tell their squadron mates just what happened.
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For all the english friends,have a look of the french Navy Power :
Dailymotion - Libye : appareillage et montée en puissance du porte-avions Charles de Gaulle - une vidéo News & Politics
Dailymotion - Libye : appareillage et montée en puissance du porte-avions Charles de Gaulle - une vidéo News & Politics
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according to my information, Libyan G-2 (Actually it is G-3, imported version of Soko Galeb G-2 ,slightly different) "survived ' 3 air-to air attacks,before it was destroyed once when landed with air to ground missile.
If this rumour is confirmed than I have to say:
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to Libyan pilot and,more important:
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to "coalition" pilot
If this rumour is confirmed than I have to say:
:to Libyan pilot and,more important:
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to "coalition" pilot
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Merci bien!
Please be advised that our carrier is on the way
Warship HMS Invincible leaves Portsmouth for the final time - East Hampshire - The News
Merci bien!
Please be advised that our carrier is on the way
Warship HMS Invincible leaves Portsmouth for the final time - East Hampshire - The News
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Even by Telegraph standards, this is pathetic. In the unlikely event that there are any "proper" English teachers out there, this would be a great example text. On the other hand, a Careers advisor could use it to show how people can get a decent job without any of what we might call the required skills.
Flight Lieutenant Helen Seymour, 31, is usually based at RAF Coningsby but is currently stationed at the southern Italian airbase of Gioia del Colle.
She took to the skies yesterday for a seven-hour mission alongside two other Typhoons and two Tornados, returning safely to Italy in the afternoon.
Female pilots have flown in combat before, including in Harrier and Tornado GR4 aircraft over Afghanistan.
But Flt Lt Seymour, a former Tornado pilot, became the only RAF pilot to have flown the Typhoon in combat with after the allied western effort to enforce the UN-implemented no-fly zone over Libya gave the RAF its first opportunity to use Typhoons in a war zone.
Britain has sent about a dozen of the £70 million supersonic jets – which can fly at twice the speed of sound at 65,000ft – to bolster the international campaign.
She took to the skies yesterday for a seven-hour mission alongside two other Typhoons and two Tornados, returning safely to Italy in the afternoon.
Female pilots have flown in combat before, including in Harrier and Tornado GR4 aircraft over Afghanistan.
But Flt Lt Seymour, a former Tornado pilot, became the only RAF pilot to have flown the Typhoon in combat with after the allied western effort to enforce the UN-implemented no-fly zone over Libya gave the RAF its first opportunity to use Typhoons in a war zone.
Britain has sent about a dozen of the £70 million supersonic jets – which can fly at twice the speed of sound at 65,000ft – to bolster the international campaign.