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Buff Bombing concentrates everyone's mind within sonic/seismic distance of the event! Load'em up with JDAM's and one x one works....as you Teabags say....Bob's your Uncle!
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What a week!!!! Cheers Henry 
/ Cheltenham Festival next week the Runners from Knockeen on: March 12, 2011, 10:58:26 am Tuesday 15thOur first runner of the week will be Sizing Australia in the Glenfarclas Cross Country Chase on the Tuesday. He's in great form at home and we've been delighted with his preparation so far. He ran a fine race when third over the cross country course back in November and a similar run should hopefully see him go there with every chance.
Wednesday 16th
Sizing Europe will run in the Queen Mother Champion Chase on the Wednesday. Andrew Lynch came down to school him yesterday and
we were delighted with his jumping. He always seems to come into himself in the Spring and this drying ground will most definitely be to
his advantage. Last year's Arkle was just over a second shy of the Champion Chase so you'd like to think that a reproduction of that effort
would put him in there as a serious contender.
Thursday 17th
Loosen My Load is spot on ahead of his intended run in the Jewson. He also schooled yesterday under Andrew and touch wood his jumping to date has been foot perfect. We've always felt that he'd appreciate a step up in trip and this race looks to be ideal for him after some fine efforts over inadequate trips this term. We can't wait to get him back on some nice ground as we feel he's a much better horse on better ground.
The intention at this stage is to opt for the Pertemps Final with Queiros Bleu. This has been the plan for him since he finished second in a novice hurdle at the course back in October. We were delighted with his prep run at Naas a few weeks back and he's another one of ours who'll enjoy the predicted good ground. He won a novice hurdle on good ground at Killarney over 2m6f''s and we're hopeful the step up in trip will suit. He's in really good form at home and again I've been very happy with his preparation to date.
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Somehow I don’t think that situation will ever be portrayed to us through our politicians or media. Mr G and his troops are the bad boys; and that’s the way it will be shown to us…..regardless of what is really happening on the ground.
Propaganda can work both ways, whether we want to admit it or not.
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Err, they will have breached the cease-fire hence Gaddafi's forces could justifiably defend themselves.
What happens in the event of the rebels going on the attack?
Propaganda can work both ways, whether we want to admit it or not.
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Danes are sending a squadron of F-16s for the show and a Herc-J for the logs.
Denmark to send squadron on Libya op - Politiken.dk
Denmark to send squadron on Libya op - Politiken.dk
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Have the terrorists (or "freedom fighters", if you prefer) agreed to a cease-fire?
If the government abides by a cease-fire which the terrorists/freedom-fighters choose to ignore, then which side should we bomb in the civil war?
How long do we ignore the use of tanks and APCs by the Khalifa and Saud crime families against the people of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia?
If the government abides by a cease-fire which the terrorists/freedom-fighters choose to ignore, then which side should we bomb in the civil war?
How long do we ignore the use of tanks and APCs by the Khalifa and Saud crime families against the people of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia?
Nauseating double standards at play again as Libya oil reserves are so closer to Europe.
Egypt already arming the Rebels and no doubt lots of "Retired" Senior Officers offered training opportunities to train these rebels up in equipment supplied by Saudi's ala Croatia getting German used equip in the 1990's with US trainers.
Did anybody remember the history of Afghanistan from 1975 to 9/11/2001...........I see history repeating itself.
Egypt already arming the Rebels and no doubt lots of "Retired" Senior Officers offered training opportunities to train these rebels up in equipment supplied by Saudi's ala Croatia getting German used equip in the 1990's with US trainers.
Did anybody remember the history of Afghanistan from 1975 to 9/11/2001...........I see history repeating itself.
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My thoughts exactly - DEJA VU somewhat.
Did someone feed orack babama a coffee, he seemed to wake up rather to quickly
What range for our jets - Zimbabwe-oh silly they have no oil
Did someone feed orack babama a coffee, he seemed to wake up rather to quickly
What range for our jets - Zimbabwe-oh silly they have no oil
Assuming the no-fly zone actually goes ahead, it will be good for the Typhoon force finally to shake off the abuse thrown its way in recent years by those with a less-than-full understanding of air power. And yet another deployment for Tornado GR gives it the perfect chance to justify its survival in SDSR - I can see important roles for Stormshadow, ALARM, RAPTOR and Dual Mode Brimstone, all unique to the TGRF. 'Normal' Brimstone could make an appearance as well, as highlighted earlier. All in all, a broad range of options, with far less political risk than sending in the troops...
To answer an earlier question, assuming 7nm / min transit, these are the times from the closest European operating locations to the main Libyan cities (very rough distances measured on Google Maps):
Sigonella - Tripoli 280nm = 40 mins
Luqa - Tripoli 195nm = 27 mins
Sigonella or Luqa - Benghazi 330nm = 47 mins
Souda Bay - Benghazi 280nm = 40 mins
Given that Tornado used to take part in Op TELIC from Qatar, over 1 hour's flying time from Basra, you can see that land basing is perfectly feasible in this case. Operating in concert with Nimrod R1, it brings a decent SEAD capability to the table, as well as the overwatch and low-collateral precision attack currently being practised on Op HERRICK.
I hope some of the land-centric crowd (Max Hastings etc) get forced to eat their words regarding the utility of fast air. I would particularly enjoy seeing Dannatt, Richards et al commenting on the "wonderful RAF"!
Finally, how's PR11 going now?!?
To answer an earlier question, assuming 7nm / min transit, these are the times from the closest European operating locations to the main Libyan cities (very rough distances measured on Google Maps):
Sigonella - Tripoli 280nm = 40 mins
Luqa - Tripoli 195nm = 27 mins
Sigonella or Luqa - Benghazi 330nm = 47 mins
Souda Bay - Benghazi 280nm = 40 mins
Given that Tornado used to take part in Op TELIC from Qatar, over 1 hour's flying time from Basra, you can see that land basing is perfectly feasible in this case. Operating in concert with Nimrod R1, it brings a decent SEAD capability to the table, as well as the overwatch and low-collateral precision attack currently being practised on Op HERRICK.
I hope some of the land-centric crowd (Max Hastings etc) get forced to eat their words regarding the utility of fast air. I would particularly enjoy seeing Dannatt, Richards et al commenting on the "wonderful RAF"!
Finally, how's PR11 going now?!?
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That means it's also 27 minutes from Tripoli to Malta! What if the Colonel does as he is told and retains control over most of the Country. Do we then force regime change.
If we go in to degrade his AD capability when he might be at least perceived by some at the UN to have complied with their Resolution we may open up a whole new can of worms!
That means it's also 27 minutes from Tripoli to Malta! What if the Colonel does as he is told and retains control over most of the Country. Do we then force regime change.
If we go in to degrade his AD capability when he might be at least perceived by some at the UN to have complied with their Resolution we may open up a whole new can of worms!
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Not to get too heavy, but I walked from the puter, turned on BBC, Comic Relief Red Nose, images of poor kids starving and dying in Africa, whilst our 'leaders' spend another few billion on planning war with Libya
'Get off your knees human race'
We deserve better, much, much, better to lead us
'Get off your knees human race'
We deserve better, much, much, better to lead us
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Slight but significant snag in the suggested use of Sigonella - the only aviation fuel available is F44, despite what the ERS says. Now guess which was the ONLY fast jet that used to be available in the UK stable, that could use F44, and indeed any aviation fuel - yep,the Harrier. I know i know, it's gone but it would have been useful eh?
Mmm - and while we are at it - the VC10 is no longer allowed to use Jet A - and guess which is the most used aviation fuel at civvy bases is -
Sooooo - planned use of NAS Sigonella for Typhoon or GR4 - delete.
Mmm - and while we are at it - the VC10 is no longer allowed to use Jet A - and guess which is the most used aviation fuel at civvy bases is -
Sooooo - planned use of NAS Sigonella for Typhoon or GR4 - delete.
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Jet fuel is a type of aviation fuel designed for use in aircraft powered by gas-turbine engines. It is clear to straw-colored in appearance. The most commonly used fuels for commercial aviation are Jet A and Jet A-1 which are produced to a standardized international specification. The only other jet fuel commonly used in civilian turbine-engine powered aviation is Jet B which is used for its enhanced cold-weather performance.
