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Why can't we just for once say no?
We can agree to a NFZ by all means, but why do we have to provide the ac and crews when there are so many closer assets that could operate from home? (Interesting to see how Malta's position will progress)
Just what happens once the NFZ is in force?
Troops supporting Gadaffi then begin to overthrow the opposition with tanks and ground troops. What do we do then?
We have just said that no UN troops will set foot on Libyan soil haven't we! Will we sit back and let it happen or get yet another UN resolution that sees UK troops ready to go to Aghanistan diverted?
Please stop this madness!
We can agree to a NFZ by all means, but why do we have to provide the ac and crews when there are so many closer assets that could operate from home? (Interesting to see how Malta's position will progress)
Just what happens once the NFZ is in force?
Troops supporting Gadaffi then begin to overthrow the opposition with tanks and ground troops. What do we do then?
We have just said that no UN troops will set foot on Libyan soil haven't we! Will we sit back and let it happen or get yet another UN resolution that sees UK troops ready to go to Aghanistan diverted?
Please stop this madness!
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So if I say it, I lose cred, if TBM-Legend says the same thing,
it's all OK and you'll let it go through to the keeper without comment.
Double standards.
Everybody I know laughed when our 4 planes or so went to Diego Garcia and thought it was a real joke.
You must hear the stories out of the sand pit that to an extent the Aust is risk averse even on ground ops (by the ROE we adhere to) and what can and can't be done.
And in relation to KRudd, it's a bit like a CO or OC telling lots of war stories in the bar and geeing up for any op that comes along but when the op does come along, doesn't go on it !!!
If we aren't going to put something in "because it's not our area" then what are we doing pushing for it in the first place ?
BTW, how far is Canada from Libya ? They seem to be all in very quickly
without a lot of grand standing.
Anyway, at least for once the UN made a reasonably quick decision
and good luck to all those that participate.
So if I say it, I lose cred, if TBM-Legend says the same thing,
it's all OK and you'll let it go through to the keeper without comment.
Double standards.
Everybody I know laughed when our 4 planes or so went to Diego Garcia and thought it was a real joke.
You must hear the stories out of the sand pit that to an extent the Aust is risk averse even on ground ops (by the ROE we adhere to) and what can and can't be done.
And in relation to KRudd, it's a bit like a CO or OC telling lots of war stories in the bar and geeing up for any op that comes along but when the op does come along, doesn't go on it !!!
If we aren't going to put something in "because it's not our area" then what are we doing pushing for it in the first place ?
BTW, how far is Canada from Libya ? They seem to be all in very quickly
without a lot of grand standing.
Anyway, at least for once the UN made a reasonably quick decision
and good luck to all those that participate.
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If all true, I just hope that Mr Cameron is doing this for all the right reasons and does not have a "half" hidden agenda along the lines of:
I told you we would still have a worldwide military capability despite all the recent defence (especially RAF fast jet) cuts.
Totally agreed.
I told you we would still have a worldwide military capability despite all the recent defence (especially RAF fast jet) cuts.
Thoughts and prayers to all those being deployed for this and other operations.
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From what I've seen on the news, this Libyan 'Rebel Alliance' seems to consist of a load of Nissan pickups with machine guns strapped to the back.
What's going to happen when a Tonka takes a low pass and these untrained rebels decide to have a pop?
What's going to happen when a Tonka takes a low pass and these untrained rebels decide to have a pop?
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If all true, I just hope that Mr Cameron is doing this for all the right reasons and does not have a "half" hidden agenda along the lines of:
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Firstly I'd like to wish them all a good campaign & a safe return to the UK. My thoughts are also with their families back home.
Secondly I fully support the PM's actions & applaud the way in which he has campaigned to get the Arab League & the UN to support a no fly zone. Such a pity that Parliament was nearly empty when he made such an important statement committing our armed forces to yet another conflict.
Secondly I fully support the PM's actions & applaud the way in which he has campaigned to get the Arab League & the UN to support a no fly zone. Such a pity that Parliament was nearly empty when he made such an important statement committing our armed forces to yet another conflict.
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Troops supporting Gadaffi then begin to overthrow the opposition with tanks and ground troops. What do we do then?
Safe home all.
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SS, the reason we can't say NO is because our gifted (and vain) political lords and masters get too carried away when standing on their soapboxes at the UN, G7, G8, G20 (or whatever) summits or wherever they happen to have an audience.
The fact that there is no corelation to the size of their mouths and the size of this country's armed forces is irrelevant! The only thing certain is the the Treasury won't be willing to finance the little extra task which will only put further strain on an already over-stretched defence budget.
I bet they will also expect the RAF to provide some jets for the royal wedding over London!
They'll never change (or learn from past mistakes) so we'd better get used to it!!
MB
The fact that there is no corelation to the size of their mouths and the size of this country's armed forces is irrelevant! The only thing certain is the the Treasury won't be willing to finance the little extra task which will only put further strain on an already over-stretched defence budget.
I bet they will also expect the RAF to provide some jets for the royal wedding over London!
They'll never change (or learn from past mistakes) so we'd better get used to it!!
MB
As a non-military pilot, forgive me for asking some stupid questions.
Given that Gaddafi's forces are expected to be advancing on Benghazi any time now, are there any aircraft quickly to hand that are capable of knocking out - say - a couple of dozen loosely-formated tanks?
Are any of the fast jets - such as Tornado GR4, Typhoon or Rafale - actually suited to the task? Presumably A10 and Apache would be useful, if available. Would Harrier have been any good?
Given that Gaddafi's forces are expected to be advancing on Benghazi any time now, are there any aircraft quickly to hand that are capable of knocking out - say - a couple of dozen loosely-formated tanks?
Are any of the fast jets - such as Tornado GR4, Typhoon or Rafale - actually suited to the task? Presumably A10 and Apache would be useful, if available. Would Harrier have been any good?