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Old 18th Mar 2011, 12:56
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Are any of the fast jets - such as Tornado GR4, Typhoon or Rafale - actually suited to the task
What do you think the GR4 has actually been doing, either in Iraq or Afg, continuously since 1992????

Would Harrier have been any good
It would have been as good, albeit with different weapons systems, as the GR4. The big difference is we currently have 7 squadrons of GR4s, plus an OCU, and no squadrons of Harriers.
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Bl**dy Libyan surrender monkeys.
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"Move Along" nothing to see here
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 13:04
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500. I agree with you and everyone else here the pollies don't have the gumption to see it through, they just enjoy the limelight.
Unlike anyone else here you said it was because he ADF didn't want to risk any hardware, when in truth there is already plenty of ADF hardware in harms way and has been since 1999.
You don't seem to like to mention the Hornet contribution in Iraq. One day you will see the gun camera footage and the reports.
Now, back to Libya. Lets hope the cease fire is a real one. But if that is the effect of the NFZ it doesn't get rid of the main man does it?
I would like to hear if anyone has heard any of the pollies say what they expect to achieve in the long term? and how?

TBM - I'll put my response here so as not to disturb the thread but where do I say I believe it will hold? If you want to have a go, do your best but that 'go' was, well not even worth a put down.

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OZBIGGLES what are you smoking suggesting that a Ghadafi induced cease-fire is even real let alone will hold.

Why did we send Hornets to Diego Garcia when the war was thousands of miles away????

Krudd is all talk and it is embarrassing to say the least. The Canucks and others carry a stick as well as hard talk.. good on them.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 13:17
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Quote from Wrathmonk:
What do you think the GR4 has actually been doing, either in Iraq or Afg, continuously since 1992????

Well, I did warn you it was a stupid question! But what happens if the tanks are widely spaced-out?
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 13:28
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Chris Scott,

That is what the likes of Brimstone is designed for. Currently deployed on Tornado GR4.

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TJ

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Old 18th Mar 2011, 13:33
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My, that was a short war, wasn't it? The sly old fox has played Dave and Sarko like a fiddle.
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[QUOTE] [/News now reporting that Libya have declared an immediate ceasefire, in accordance with the resolution.

Stop planning!QUOTE]

Just a thought. What happens in the event of the rebels going on the attack? Do the aircraft operating under the UN mandate go in to support them?
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 13:43
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Mr G may have surrendered but I guarantee the rebels won't. They will be on a mission to provoke them.

Do you think Mr G will stand back and let the rebels retake ground?

I Think NOT!
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Thanks for all that, TEEEJ.

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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:00
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We stop the deployment? - I don't think so. An immediate ceasefire doesn't stop the Libyans moving troops into built up areas to hamper any interdiction efforts.
No, we should carry on.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:01
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Such a pity that Parliament was nearly empty when he made such an important statement committing our armed forces to yet another conflict.
Fin, mon vieux, what else did you expect? It's a Friday, and the Pollies are even better than the Dark Blue for organising their long weekends.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:03
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What happens in the event of the rebels going on the attack?
Err, they will have breached the cease-fire hence Gaddafi's forces could justifiably defend themselves.

As for us supporting them, incredibly I believe the resolution isn't specific on that. It talks about stopping aggression and protecting civilians.

Let face it chaps, we've been well and truly kippered.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:11
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Brimstone effective?

Perhaps.....but how many can the RAF deliver in a single go? How many Tanks does Ghaf's forces have in the field? What is the shuttle time from Malta, Sigonella, Corsica?
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:20
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2-ship x 2 and as you Septics say, "you do the math"

Two-dozen smouldering hunks of steel would tend to concentrate the minds of those on the ground.

Besides which, carpet bombing a la Buff isn't terribly sporting old boy...
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:21
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Maybe an Op like this is exactly what is needed to highlight the shortfalls in the SDSR. It would be a brave man to admit that he has made a mistake!
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:24
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Let face it chaps, we've been well and truly kippered.
Oh Buggah!

It was all going so well, too.

It was going as well as our occupation of Mespotamia from RAF Basrah.

It was going as well as our occupation of Basra until we had to withdraw to the former "RAF Basrah".

It was going as well as our occupation of the "British Sector" of Afghanistan in Helmand.

It was going as well as our air power's stunning success(es) in Northern Ireland for 30 years.

It was all going so well in our campaign to oust Gadaffi. Right up until some unsporting sod pointed out the the Empire has no clothes.

Could somebody please remind me: what is the exit plan for this one?

How do we get out of this ****?
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:25
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Google is your friend. I certainly would suggest that any responses to such questions here reference material that is available in a search engine.
Peoples lives depend on it.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 14:51
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How do we get out of this ****?

.....

Google is your friend.
That is Willy Vague's strategy.

What should a proper government have as an exit stategy when it goes into an unendable war with its eyes open?

Willy Vague hasn't got a strategy. Has anybody else got one?
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