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Guys.
Please remember, if you click on WK's profile, towards the bottom of that page, is a blue strip.
Within that blue strip, it invites you to "Add Walter Kennedy to your ignore list"
I suspect WK's motivation and sanity. I no longer have to read anything he says.
He is an irrelevance.
Please remember, if you click on WK's profile, towards the bottom of that page, is a blue strip.
Within that blue strip, it invites you to "Add Walter Kennedy to your ignore list"
I suspect WK's motivation and sanity. I no longer have to read anything he says.
He is an irrelevance.
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An Teallach
A fine post.
Walter Kennedy
Either you're incredibly thick-skinned or you're one of the Air Marshals in disguise, getting a bizarre kick out of belching out a now-all-too-familiar smokescreen. I agree with Cazatou that we should allow free speech, but don't you think you've had yours? Not one poster that I can find has so far agreed with anything that you have said, and many have rubbished your hypotheses, yet you still trot out the same old garbage.
Please remove yourself from this thread. If you suffer from withdrawal symptoms, you may like to try:
http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/talk/n...theories_1.htm[/URL]
You will then, for example, be able to discuss, with similarly-minded individuals, why Di and Dodi died as the result of a fiendish plot hatched by the world's florists (yes, it's true; it's on the web-site).
A fine post.
Walter Kennedy
Either you're incredibly thick-skinned or you're one of the Air Marshals in disguise, getting a bizarre kick out of belching out a now-all-too-familiar smokescreen. I agree with Cazatou that we should allow free speech, but don't you think you've had yours? Not one poster that I can find has so far agreed with anything that you have said, and many have rubbished your hypotheses, yet you still trot out the same old garbage.
Please remove yourself from this thread. If you suffer from withdrawal symptoms, you may like to try:
http://www.londonnet.co.uk/ln/talk/n...theories_1.htm[/URL]
You will then, for example, be able to discuss, with similarly-minded individuals, why Di and Dodi died as the result of a fiendish plot hatched by the world's florists (yes, it's true; it's on the web-site).
Humbled
I'm a humbled guy with no axe to grind except that I've followed this thread with interest from the beginning (more power to JN)because I'm convinced an injustice has been done.
Rest in peace chaps, justice will prevail eventually.
You flew a professional mission (as always) and events beyond your control caused the loss in my humble opinion.
God speed ZD576 crew and pax,
a rare breed with the courage & conviction to defend the very rights of freedom.
Rest in peace chaps, justice will prevail eventually.
You flew a professional mission (as always) and events beyond your control caused the loss in my humble opinion.
God speed ZD576 crew and pax,
a rare breed with the courage & conviction to defend the very rights of freedom.
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From Daily Telegraph Sat11th June.
Captain John Cook
(Filed: 11/06/2005)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../11/db1102.xml
Captain John Cook, who has died aged 71, served as a night fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force before joining British Overseas Airways Corporation and ultimately becoming a leading Concorde pilot.
He had already gained a great deal of experience as a training captain with British Airways when he transferred to the Concorde fleet in its early days in 1977.
In 1984 he became the Concorde Training Manager, remaining in that important post until he retired in 1979. He was also a Concorde test pilot with specific responsibility for renewing the certificate of airworthiness for the British Airways fleet, an appointment which gave him much pleasure and let him establish a close friendship with Brian Trubshaw, the chief test pilot.
Cook flew several spectacular displays at the Farnborough Air Show, on one occasion upsetting at least one other display pilot with his precision in difficult conditions.
After each of his displays, he relished the knowledge that some of his fellow-pilots, on whom his views were as sound as they were entertaining, pored over the air-data records, desperately seeking evidence of transgressions, always without success. Of his 16,000 flying hours, 4,000 were on the Concorde.
John Douglas Cook, whose father had a gentleman's tailoring business, was born on April 14 1934 at Chorley, Lancashire. He was evacuated to Blackpool from London during the Second World War and attended Arnold House School in Blackpool. After a period as an apprentice tailor, he fulfilled his desire to fly when he joined the RAF on a short service commission in 1952.
Cook trained as a pilot in Rhodesia before joining No 46 Squadron, flying the Meteor night fighter before converting to the delta wing Javelin all-weather fighter. At the end of his RAF engagement in 1957 he joined BOAC. He flew the Comet and then the VC 10, receiving his command in 1971. He was a training captain on VC 10s and later the Boeing 747 before transferring to the Concorde.
Formidably clear-thinking, but always calm, unassuming and likeable, he could easily be underestimated. These qualities stood him in great stead when he gave his services to the British Airline Pilots' Association for many years, specialising in defusing confrontations.
This particular skill also enabled him to make a significant contribution to flight safety. British Airways had plans to introduce cockpit voice recorders, a means of monitoring the actions of their crews, many of whom saw it as a "spy-in-the-cab". This proved unpopular with pilots, who had a great deal of distrust in the arrangements. Cook sought their patience and offered to negotiate with the airline's flight technical team.
The outcome was the introduction of the recorders, but accompanied by a protocol which prevented their use for the harassment of pilots. The recorders have proved invaluable in accident investigation, and thus in accident prevention, and they have been in service with British airlines for many years.
Cook's early years of retirement were blighted by family tragedy. A year after his wife died of cancer in 1993, his elder son, Flight Lieutenant Rick Cook, was killed as the co-pilot of a Chinook helicopter that crashed into the Mull of Kintyre carrying senior counter-terrorist and intelligence officers.
Following a Board of Inquiry, the two pilots of the Chinook were found to be negligent. For the rest of his life, Cook fought tenaciously to clear his son's name and that of his fellow pilot. It gave him and his family the greatest sorrow not to have succeeded by the time of his death on May 10.
Cook was very sociable and popular. He was a kind man, a cricketer, member of his church and pillar of his local hostelry. He was also captain of North Hants golf club, where Greg Norman used to practise. Cook and Norman became friends, and in 1986, as the golfer was about to board Concorde to return to the United States having won the Open at Turnberry, he arranged for Cook to be photographed holding the trophy.
John Cook is survived by his companion Sue Gilks, whose unstinting care during his final illness was a great solace, and by a son who is also a pilot with civil airlines.
Captain John Cook
(Filed: 11/06/2005)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../11/db1102.xml
Captain John Cook, who has died aged 71, served as a night fighter pilot in the Royal Air Force before joining British Overseas Airways Corporation and ultimately becoming a leading Concorde pilot.
He had already gained a great deal of experience as a training captain with British Airways when he transferred to the Concorde fleet in its early days in 1977.
In 1984 he became the Concorde Training Manager, remaining in that important post until he retired in 1979. He was also a Concorde test pilot with specific responsibility for renewing the certificate of airworthiness for the British Airways fleet, an appointment which gave him much pleasure and let him establish a close friendship with Brian Trubshaw, the chief test pilot.
Cook flew several spectacular displays at the Farnborough Air Show, on one occasion upsetting at least one other display pilot with his precision in difficult conditions.
After each of his displays, he relished the knowledge that some of his fellow-pilots, on whom his views were as sound as they were entertaining, pored over the air-data records, desperately seeking evidence of transgressions, always without success. Of his 16,000 flying hours, 4,000 were on the Concorde.
John Douglas Cook, whose father had a gentleman's tailoring business, was born on April 14 1934 at Chorley, Lancashire. He was evacuated to Blackpool from London during the Second World War and attended Arnold House School in Blackpool. After a period as an apprentice tailor, he fulfilled his desire to fly when he joined the RAF on a short service commission in 1952.
Cook trained as a pilot in Rhodesia before joining No 46 Squadron, flying the Meteor night fighter before converting to the delta wing Javelin all-weather fighter. At the end of his RAF engagement in 1957 he joined BOAC. He flew the Comet and then the VC 10, receiving his command in 1971. He was a training captain on VC 10s and later the Boeing 747 before transferring to the Concorde.
Formidably clear-thinking, but always calm, unassuming and likeable, he could easily be underestimated. These qualities stood him in great stead when he gave his services to the British Airline Pilots' Association for many years, specialising in defusing confrontations.
This particular skill also enabled him to make a significant contribution to flight safety. British Airways had plans to introduce cockpit voice recorders, a means of monitoring the actions of their crews, many of whom saw it as a "spy-in-the-cab". This proved unpopular with pilots, who had a great deal of distrust in the arrangements. Cook sought their patience and offered to negotiate with the airline's flight technical team.
The outcome was the introduction of the recorders, but accompanied by a protocol which prevented their use for the harassment of pilots. The recorders have proved invaluable in accident investigation, and thus in accident prevention, and they have been in service with British airlines for many years.
Cook's early years of retirement were blighted by family tragedy. A year after his wife died of cancer in 1993, his elder son, Flight Lieutenant Rick Cook, was killed as the co-pilot of a Chinook helicopter that crashed into the Mull of Kintyre carrying senior counter-terrorist and intelligence officers.
Following a Board of Inquiry, the two pilots of the Chinook were found to be negligent. For the rest of his life, Cook fought tenaciously to clear his son's name and that of his fellow pilot. It gave him and his family the greatest sorrow not to have succeeded by the time of his death on May 10.
Cook was very sociable and popular. He was a kind man, a cricketer, member of his church and pillar of his local hostelry. He was also captain of North Hants golf club, where Greg Norman used to practise. Cook and Norman became friends, and in 1986, as the golfer was about to board Concorde to return to the United States having won the Open at Turnberry, he arranged for Cook to be photographed holding the trophy.
John Cook is survived by his companion Sue Gilks, whose unstinting care during his final illness was a great solace, and by a son who is also a pilot with civil airlines.
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Thank you for the link HectorusRex
John was a true gentleman. It is an honour and privilege to be able to call him a friend.
Very much missed.
John was a true gentleman. It is an honour and privilege to be able to call him a friend.
Very much missed.
vec... thingy
You are obviously some sort of troll or at best a frustrated writer who despises aircrew... that's fair enough.
But can't you see the connection between overturning the verdict of negligence and clearing the pilots' reputations?
Completion of the first will go some way towards achieving the second.
So enlighten us, how many Chinook HC2 hours do you have.........?
But can't you see the connection between overturning the verdict of negligence and clearing the pilots' reputations?
Completion of the first will go some way towards achieving the second.
So enlighten us, how many Chinook HC2 hours do you have.........?
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Forgive us but.....
This thread was started 3 years and 4 months ago. (there were other, identical threads predating this. Hence "Still Hitting Back 3" ) Doubtless you will find contributions from many of us on all those threads!
Your user name was first registered 3 months ago.
You may have your view on the "aim of the thread and the campaign"
Others, who have been involved a little longer, may have another!
Or should we remember you by some other name?
Forgive us but.....
This thread was started 3 years and 4 months ago. (there were other, identical threads predating this. Hence "Still Hitting Back 3" ) Doubtless you will find contributions from many of us on all those threads!
Your user name was first registered 3 months ago.
You may have your view on the "aim of the thread and the campaign"
Others, who have been involved a little longer, may have another!
Or should we remember you by some other name?
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Why is this thread often run by harrassment?
Is it not open to all who have an opinion, whether thay have been registered for one day or one year.
It is not owned by any one save Brian Dixon who posted the first message, so what right does anyone have to harrass another just because they don't tow the party line?
Is it not open to all who have an opinion, whether thay have been registered for one day or one year.
It is not owned by any one save Brian Dixon who posted the first message, so what right does anyone have to harrass another just because they don't tow the party line?
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Twinact,
many thanks for the acknowledgement but I don't feel that I should be the owner of the thread. (I know what you were trying to say/mean, and for that I thank you) - everything actually belongs to Danny.
Like you, I'm happy for all to post here regardless of 'side' of the debate. After all, on the whole, we have a healthy debate on the merits (or lack of, in my humble opinion) of the Reviewing Officers' opinions.
It's a very emotive subject and I think that it's no suprise when, occasionally, the short fuse gets used. All I try to do then is to keep the injustice in the public domain, keep contributors focused and afford the matter the dignity it deserves. I would never dream of acting in the manner of a moderator as I don't think that is my place.
I get far more pleasure from irritating the hell out of the MoD!!!
Finally, I would say that anyone who posts speculation/opinion/best guess (and I'm not suggesting anyone in particular!) should expect to be challenged in accordance with the rules in place at the time - Absolutely no doubt whatsoever.
My best, as always, to you all.
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
many thanks for the acknowledgement but I don't feel that I should be the owner of the thread. (I know what you were trying to say/mean, and for that I thank you) - everything actually belongs to Danny.
Like you, I'm happy for all to post here regardless of 'side' of the debate. After all, on the whole, we have a healthy debate on the merits (or lack of, in my humble opinion) of the Reviewing Officers' opinions.
It's a very emotive subject and I think that it's no suprise when, occasionally, the short fuse gets used. All I try to do then is to keep the injustice in the public domain, keep contributors focused and afford the matter the dignity it deserves. I would never dream of acting in the manner of a moderator as I don't think that is my place.
I get far more pleasure from irritating the hell out of the MoD!!!
Finally, I would say that anyone who posts speculation/opinion/best guess (and I'm not suggesting anyone in particular!) should expect to be challenged in accordance with the rules in place at the time - Absolutely no doubt whatsoever.
My best, as always, to you all.
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
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Brian,
Sorry, thank you, as ever, for a courteous reply. I thought about editing my previous post but got harrassed before for possible suspicious motives.
Damn just edited this post!
Sorry, thank you, as ever, for a courteous reply. I thought about editing my previous post but got harrassed before for possible suspicious motives.
Damn just edited this post!
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As you know, I have withdrawn from public disussion/argument, but have twice tried to send you PMs in reply to yours. But something seems to be amiss. Have also tried three times to tell PrunePop that I am having this difficulty; am I alone?
Regards as always. John Purdey
Ark Royal
As you know, I have withdrawn from public disussion/argument, but have twice tried to send you PMs in reply to yours. But something seems to be amiss. Have also tried three times to tell PrunePop that I am having this difficulty; am I alone?
Regards as always. John Purdey
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Hi Mr Purdey.
Hope this find you well.
I don't know why you are having difficulty in sending me a PM(although I suppose, I'm not the irritating sod for nothing!).
I've sent you a PM with an e-mail address on, if that is useful to you. Also, I've cleared a few older PMs in case that frees the account up.
Look forward to hearing from you soon.
My best, as always,
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
Hope this find you well.
I don't know why you are having difficulty in sending me a PM(although I suppose, I'm not the irritating sod for nothing!).
I've sent you a PM with an e-mail address on, if that is useful to you. Also, I've cleared a few older PMs in case that frees the account up.
Look forward to hearing from you soon.
My best, as always,
Brian
"Justice has no expiry date" - John Cook
