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Still waiting for my LSA details to be sorted - since May. Submitted an SR or whatever they are called, never heard anything back from them. So much for we will get back to you the next working day.
Interestingly enough, I hit the PVR button today, just out of curiosity rather than a burning desire to PVR, despite everything else that is happening. It came up with "Career Manager not found ". Just about says it all really
Interestingly enough, I hit the PVR button today, just out of curiosity rather than a burning desire to PVR, despite everything else that is happening. It came up with "Career Manager not found ". Just about says it all really
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Cannot understand the new pay chits at all. For some reason my quarters and garage charges filled the page for varying lengths of time in Jun from 4 days (shortest) to 10 days (longest) Whats all that about?
On the other hand, when it has a mind to, it seems to pay allowance claims bloody quick.
On the other hand, when it has a mind to, it seems to pay allowance claims bloody quick.
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flying pay and jsp 754
Having waited nearly 3 months to find out why I have not moved onto the higher rate NCA flying pay band, imagine my surprise when I eventually receive a call from the JPAC informing me that JSP754 came into effect on 1st April and the rules have now changed. I am no longer entitled to the higher rate flying pay for another 3 years.
Anybody out there in the same situation? Yet another example of penny pinching. Is the change in pay a legal one? any ideas?
Anybody out there in the same situation? Yet another example of penny pinching. Is the change in pay a legal one? any ideas?
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Originally Posted by fin1012
For some reason my quarters and garage charges filled the page for varying lengths of time in Jun from 4 days (shortest) to 10 days (longest) Whats all that about? .
.Mine is the same and does coincide with time away.
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Originally Posted by cheesedoff
Having waited nearly 3 months to find out why I have not moved onto the higher rate NCA flying pay band, imagine my surprise when I eventually receive a call from the JPAC informing me that JSP754 came into effect on 1st April and the rules have now changed. I am no longer entitled to the higher rate flying pay for another 3 years.
Anybody out there in the same situation? Yet another example of penny pinching. Is the change in pay a legal one? any ideas?
Anybody out there in the same situation? Yet another example of penny pinching. Is the change in pay a legal one? any ideas?
If you qualified after 1 Apr, then they have just found another way of shafting you. But sideways.
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ExJAFAD,
Thanks for the info on how quarters rent appears on the payslip. It does correlate (June was a v busy month!). However, given that I pay quarters 31/31 regardless of whether I am home or not, it does seem a bit of an odd way of doing it. Perhaps they have in mind a future where we don't get charged if we are away .......
FIN
Thanks for the info on how quarters rent appears on the payslip. It does correlate (June was a v busy month!). However, given that I pay quarters 31/31 regardless of whether I am home or not, it does seem a bit of an odd way of doing it. Perhaps they have in mind a future where we don't get charged if we are away .......
FIN
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JPA are we nearly there yet??!!
Just spoken to my PSF (Sorry Unit HR Staff) regarding my back pay that is due to me from my move to the higher pay band after completing 10 weeks training at RAF Cosford, found out that although I completed the course on the 17 Feb 06 allowing for the award of my new Q annotation and move to higher pay band, Cosford did not sign off my f292 until the 8 of May 06 and then it has of course hit JPA and the Cluster that has arised from this. I ask an open question to you all, is there any way I can address a formal complaint as to why it is now Jul and I am not being paid my correct daily rate of pay. I have been told by my HR staff that 3000 plus "inputs" to JPA are being processed at this moment, by 2 staff from my unit that have had to be attached from Northern Ireland to Innsworth to help out!!. All I want at the end of the day is to receive what I am entitled to as has been said on this thread they are quick enough to take it off you!! start giving it back. I have two civilian staff under my command and if I donot supply a tea bar or "smoke area" I get shafted by Civi Admin....(My apologies to civilian staff on this thread") but it is very frustrating now as I believe that Most service personnel and their spouses are being "patient" with this whole F up now!!, any guidance for what I can do now is greatly appreciated..
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The Armed Forces Personnel Administration Agency has received some 14 pieces of ministerial correspondence on behalf of constituents
Then I guess it is time you all wrote to your local member and increase this stat.
Does anyone have a simple template to copy for all to use and submit?
The Armed Forces Personnel Administration Agency has received some 14 pieces of ministerial correspondence on behalf of constituents
Then I guess it is time you all wrote to your local member and increase this stat.
Does anyone have a simple template to copy for all to use and submit?
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I have to say that we in the senior service are dreading the 26 October (bit of a strange date to start buggering about with yer pay).
But at the end of the day it seems to me as though we are wasting a lot of money here. At the moment a Killick writer does my pay. She is very good at it, trained and experienced. She gets paid IRO £60-80 a day to make sure my pay gets into the bank ontime and in the correct rig. From October, I will have to do it. Im not trained, I'm inexperienced and get paid well over £150 a day. Where is the cost saving in that?
But at the end of the day it seems to me as though we are wasting a lot of money here. At the moment a Killick writer does my pay. She is very good at it, trained and experienced. She gets paid IRO £60-80 a day to make sure my pay gets into the bank ontime and in the correct rig. From October, I will have to do it. Im not trained, I'm inexperienced and get paid well over £150 a day. Where is the cost saving in that?
The cost saving is that the Killick does more than your pay, so if you do your own work, she is not required, therefore most of her £80 per day will be saved. 
As you do not do much work for your £150 then making you do a bit of her job has double payback.
As you do not do much work for your £150 then making you do a bit of her job has double payback.
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Originally Posted by L J R
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The Armed Forces Personnel Administration Agency has received some 14 pieces of ministerial correspondence on behalf of constituents
Then I guess it is time you all wrote to your local member and increase this stat.
Does anyone have a simple template to copy for all to use and submit?
The Armed Forces Personnel Administration Agency has received some 14 pieces of ministerial correspondence on behalf of constituents
Then I guess it is time you all wrote to your local member and increase this stat.
Does anyone have a simple template to copy for all to use and submit?
Process goes as follows. You write to him/her, his / her PA writes 2 line note forwarding your letter to Defence Minister, Ministers outer office intercept letter pass to MoD Parliamentary Branch, who will forward to AFPAA. AFPAA drafts response, pass back to Parliamentary Branch, they send to Minister who signs letter & sends to MP who passes to you. You might as well write to AFPAA direct. Better still complain to RAF chain of command / RAF News or local media. Remember CE AFPAA is answerable to the Service chiefs / public pressure.
(No I don't work in AFPAA Secretariat or with JPA but I did use to perform similar work in another Government Department).
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Other things of lesser importance:
Check your competencies - I have 42(!), including CR pilot and flying supervisor despite the fact I have never flown a military aeroplane. Should I query my flying pay?
Medical details either don't exist or are wrong. I only hope that, when I get shot in the desert, the medics don't give me A+ blood when my blood group is actually O-.
How much leave have you got? Done to death on the previous pages.
If you are a shift worker, how do you claim your food charges back in your "3 off"?
As a line manager, I have no indication whether an individual has actually put in his 'leave pass' without actually going to look for the info. Consequently, we have set up a parallel system for ensuring that individuals have taken authorised absence. (PS. The JPAC solution was to disable all self-authorisations. Doesn't that take us back to SAMA?)
When does my CCS/Medical/Innoculation/Fitness Test currency run out? I suspect there are a number of COs who no longer know the 'Warfighting status' of their unit.
If you are an NCO and have been given re-engagement leave on promotion, there is no record as to whether you have taken these 20 days in the last five years. my advice, plead innocent and get yourself another 20 days leave.
Bored now. Got to go to work and check my "Workflow Notifications".
Check your competencies - I have 42(!), including CR pilot and flying supervisor despite the fact I have never flown a military aeroplane. Should I query my flying pay?
Medical details either don't exist or are wrong. I only hope that, when I get shot in the desert, the medics don't give me A+ blood when my blood group is actually O-.
How much leave have you got? Done to death on the previous pages.
If you are a shift worker, how do you claim your food charges back in your "3 off"?
As a line manager, I have no indication whether an individual has actually put in his 'leave pass' without actually going to look for the info. Consequently, we have set up a parallel system for ensuring that individuals have taken authorised absence. (PS. The JPAC solution was to disable all self-authorisations. Doesn't that take us back to SAMA?)
When does my CCS/Medical/Innoculation/Fitness Test currency run out? I suspect there are a number of COs who no longer know the 'Warfighting status' of their unit.
If you are an NCO and have been given re-engagement leave on promotion, there is no record as to whether you have taken these 20 days in the last five years. my advice, plead innocent and get yourself another 20 days leave.
Bored now. Got to go to work and check my "Workflow Notifications".
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Originally Posted by vecvechookattack
Sounds good. So JPA is saving the MOD a wadge of spondoolies every month. Good. What shall we spend it on?
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Originally Posted by ZH875
The cost saving is that the Killick does more than your pay, so if you do your own work, she is not required, therefore most of her £80 per day will be saved.
As you do not do much work for your £150 then making you do a bit of her job has double payback.
As you do not do much work for your £150 then making you do a bit of her job has double payback.
Plus some of them, when asked nicely, will make the tea!
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Miscalculations!
Having just returned from the US I proceeded to do my JPA claim. I entered a CHBS hotel bill of 175 dollars and the programme then recalculated my claim in GBP using the displayed exchange rate of 0.577413 which equates to the offical rate of 1.75 dollars to the pound. The displayed converted amount which I was to recieve was 91.77. Basic maths told me that this was incorrect as sould have been exactly 100! The displayed exchange rate was correct but the calculator used a different number to process my claim - doing me out of 8.23. I reported this problem up through the helpline but have heard nothing back from them. I subsequently manually worked out each claim amount in GBP as the programmes calculator did not calculate the exchange rates correctly. It appeared to work ok on the daily subsistance page but not on CHBS bookings abroad page. I would recommend double checking each amount you are claiming in a foreign currency with the offical MOD exchange rate, and checking it against JPA. If this problem has been present since the start a lot of people could have lost a lot of money!
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The Rogue,
I think you have been paid the maximum overnight rate allowed which is $160. That works out to be the amount they paid you. I thought if it was booked through CHBS then they would pay you what it cost, not what the limit is. You need to take it up with your travel cell/etc to check. Hope this helps.
I think you have been paid the maximum overnight rate allowed which is $160. That works out to be the amount they paid you. I thought if it was booked through CHBS then they would pay you what it cost, not what the limit is. You need to take it up with your travel cell/etc to check. Hope this helps.
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We have checked and you are right, if the booking is made through CHBS they are supposed to pay you the whole amount, which is not what the programme is doing at the moment. PSF agreed that the interim solution is to use the published rate, convert to GBP and put the claim in sterling.
We have checked and you are right, if the booking is made through CHBS they are supposed to pay you the whole amount, which is not what the programme is doing at the moment. PSF agreed that the interim solution is to use the published rate, convert to GBP and put the claim in sterling.