Get used to the 2 bucket theory as an expat, and keep your ear close to the ground. It happens in all airlines.

Well soon enough SVA will have close to 100plus expat FO's. Hard to axe them all at the same time. still company has the upper hand as it may choose not to renew the contract after 3 years .but honestly now i cant imagine lots of expats on the T7 that they will choose to stay after 3 years instead of looking for a place with a faster command upgrade on a wide body aircraft instead of the A 320

hi all,

Is there any chance of commuting or part time job?

Cheers,
a

NO

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Story is that they have imposed a no-extension rule for first officers, so they will finish at 58.2 Gregorian years and not 65 like the Captains.

Thats right Mutt. Just bumped into a victim of this rule. BTW this rule is applicable to both locals and foreigners.

anybody heard if i can change my type from the A330 to B777 ? im a F/O

You have more luck if you try to change your sex. NOT A SINGLE CHANCE. FORGET IT!

KKKKKKKKK...

Got news from some locals that there is some fuss about a possible SV ban over EU's space because of FTLs violations or something.
Any truth to that?

Not likely.

guys...any info on why so many people have been send back/failed or voluntarily decided to leave saudia?
recently i heard 3 serbians and more than 10 malaysians failed...whats the area of failure and why?
about accommodation..is it true that to get a proper house..the waiting period is almost 1 year?

@indianace. 1st reason is attitude ,even if you don't cope 100% with a very demanding training the proper attitude may save your ... :). It works both ways. Even if you cope 110% with the training the wrong attitude can get you a one way ticket back home. Keep in mind that at that time SV doesn't need desperately pilots especially on the T7. An average line for April is around 70 hours (pay credit at around 78-80) for the FO's and 73-74 for captains. Command upgrades were postponed until June
6-10 773 are on the way until the end of the year.on December the first four 772 will be faced out (not necessarily based on day of arrival).
Housing: literally SV city has no more available houses. The waiting list is something like 140 people,maybe more. All of them stay in 3 different hotels.company is looking for available houses in a compound north of the airport

thanks for the indo aloha...

Hmmm...Madinah?

any news from the gents staring on 27th of march.
m still waiting

c560xl
i'm Here, arriving jeddah on the 27th of march, as a FO A330
they sent me the ticket and hotel accommodation , pm me

Anyone will join next 3rd April?

"Got news from some locals that there is some fuss about a possible SV ban over EU's space because of FTLs violations or something. "

Unavailable, I heard that also this week.
I'm told it's to do with the continual push-back/delay in instigating a new FMS (FAA Part 117).

Happy landings:ok:

EASA is full of !!!!. EASA should be more worried about tackling down P2F schemes in Europe..... but i have heard that rumor too.

Are they applying the bond to people who are already rated in the specific aircraft?

@mutt no, ive friends who are already type rated on the A330 and they did not apply bond to them

9 B777 training failures in literally two days, whats going on? Especially as most appear to be in recurrent?

Failure during recurrent? I thought recurrent is no jeopardy...

so did they :):)

Misunderstanding of the worst kind 😱😨😰...

So how many guys opted for RUH base and whats the deal with it ?

Mutt you seem to be the happiest one about the failures.
From what I hear it's all ego tussle and repercussions of previous incidents.

Recurrent Non Jeopardy? How Naive!
 

Come on guys don't piss about! Any airline pilot who's been in the business long enough knows that you are only as good as your last sim check.

It's very naive to have the attitude that a recurrent is a formality or anything like non jeopardy.

SV RUH Base-Dream on for a While Longer.
 

Flyboy SG,

No RUH base as yet.

It was only considered as a planning exercise.

Besides all is under review at the moment by outside consultants as well as all strongly under review as part of the recently introduced "5 Year Transformation Program".

I wouldn't hold my breath for a RUH base anytime soon if I were you-unless you want to work for NAS AIR that is.

Have a look out as you are on finals to 33L in the last couple of miles, they are in the process of building the housing compound.

With over 100,000 seats used each year between the two cities to deadhead crew, the concept certainly makes sense.

Just been awarded Ruh base!

Saudis A330
 

Been awarded Ruh base, heard rumors before that they will give 10 days consecutively during the month! True?

Yeah, I'm Wondering the same.

How is the atmosphere in Saudia and the training? Not sure if I should join !

Been on the line since September. Flying is ok, most of the old timers don't bother you and let you fly pretty much the way you want, don't expect to do many landings though, specially on the long haul flights.

Training is the worst. You can spend up to one year on training and there is no assurance that you would make it until the very last minute.

Biggest issue now for the new guys is housing, not enough houses or even apartments. Be given an hotel outside the compound God knows how long.

Flying hours right now is rather low, too many pilots, not enough routes and new planes coming this way. Not to mention the implementation of GACA 117 next month.... will be interesting.

Looks like there a new baby LCC! FlyAdeal as part of Saudia. Planning to have a fleet of a320neo.
Base should be in Dammam but i'm not sure!

Will be interesting to see if the 50 aircraft are going to SVA or split, will also be interesting to see where they find pilots especially as they won't be able to offer the same package as SVA.

Considering that the guy in charge of the 2020 transformation came from Al-Maha, SAMA, Cebu Pacific, it stands to reason that they are going down the LCC road.

A Dammam base isn't that bad and they will get their pilots from the european LCC. For sure the investors of Saudigulf are more then pleased with this announcement.

I second Atila 101. That's the exact scenario now. Don't expect to Get released before Before a year. Housing is a big issue. Training on the bus is a bit less slower !