You leave on a EXIT visa rather than a EXIT/RE-ENTRY visa, so the immigration with stamp EXIT in your passport. If you want to prove that you left then it would be a good idea to print a copy of your visa from evisa.sa

I hope that you find the sand is less brown in the east.

Base of Riyadh is the talk after training.

flightfaa- Does that apply to any particular aircraft or is it all fleets?

The A330 as Im aware, not to sure about the rest.

Big base wanted for A320 and smaller B777 one.
Not sure if new recruit contracts are to be there but I know some contract renewals are.
It changes daily anyway ;)

Happy Landings:ok:

Chocks- I think you're right about the contract renewals.


It may change daily but the compound in Riyadh exists therefore it's going to happen.


Forget the block of 10 though, that will never happen.

Do you guys talking about forced relocation to Riyadh at contract renewal?

I don't think that any Jeddah based line Captain will be forced. I do think that new hires and people who don't yet have their star or people changing fleet will just be told that the base is now Riyadh. It will be told diplomatically to them by their fleet supervisor, like he his no choice it comes from above him. It will happen though, they want the Riyadh base now as soon as possible, the accommodation is in place.

SaudiaA330 captains
 

Captains that are currently flying the line an the 330, I know that you get 5 days block of days off but can you easily make it around 10 days off block with swaps ?

Expats taxed in Saudi Arabia?
 

http://www.arabnews.com/node/933946/saudi-arabia

JEDDAH: The Shoura Council’s finance committee is backing a proposed tax on the remittances of expats, starting from 6 percent in the first year and gradually reducing to 2 percent permanently from the fifth year onward.
The tax proposal was drafted by Hossam Al-Anqari, head of the General Auditing Bureau and former member of the Shoura, who said this would be a way to force expats to invest or spend their money in the Kingdom.
The tax would be on all money transfers by expats, with the collection being done through financial institutions in the country, and deposited in a special government account, according to a media report on Thursday.
There would also be limits on the amount that an expat can send abroad at any given time. There would also be limit on what expats can transfer abroad if they leave the country. The amounts that would be allowed abroad would be calculated in terms of the income of expats.
There would also be several measures introduced to prevent tax evasion and penalize those who fail to comply, and resolve disputes. The fines would be equal to the tax levied for the first offense and doubled for every repeat violation. Citizens found submitting fake statements of salaries, or transferring money on behalf of workers would also be fined.
The finance committee stated that measures must be taken to tax expats so that the country can gain more income. The committee’s statement comes as annual remittances reportedly rose from SR56 billion in 2005 to over SR135 billion in 2014.

Buswind: If you look back through this thread you will see that your question has been asked on multiple occasions. The answer is that Saudia is NOT a commuting contract. If you come here believing that it could be and have family that you need to get back home to see then you will be very disappointed. The training is a long process and during that time you'll have very little opportunity to go home and then you think there is light at the end of the tunnel then there isn't. You finish training and they schedule you to fly the next day and your into the routine of getting 5 block days free of duty. You can be scheduled to midnight on the day before and scheduled from 0100 on the day after. On a busy fleet like the A330 that will happen. Swaps may be possible but don't count on it, they will only give you one extra day anyway if they do happen.


To be positive, if you and your family chose to come and live in Saudi Arabia then this is not a bad Job.

Perhaps a bit off the current discussion subject, just for info what kind of routes the A330 does, what destinations and what would be the routings for the A330-300 regional ? Thank you.

soft Altitude:


The Answer is:
Domestic
North Africa
India
Pakistan
Istanbul
Munich
Manchester

Polax,
Would that sentiment translate across all fleets? Even the 320?
Tks.

Polax Manchester is served. By the 787 (used to be 777). Munich will be served by the 320. Maybe Geneva for the summer time will go on the 330. The onlyinternational lay overs for the 330 are Tunid and all the destinations to India with the exception of BOM and DEL (777 destinations)

igig- I think it's pretty accurate to say that if you're not trying to commute this job, then it isn't too bad.


The problem I have is with people who take the job, knowing full well that it is not a commutable job and then make everybody else miserable with endless complaining.

Riyadh base is open from this month.

And the Sahara hotel is closing for renovations, roll on the Holiday Inn :):)

word on the block is the 330 R might not come after all,.
taken with a grain of salt but any one wanna chime if it true....

thx

I'll tell you more: even existing 330s are heading to one of the African companies next year. 330 pilots will be transferred to 747 classic, which Saudia is bringing back from the desert and to E170, which is not retiring any more. By seniority. Interesting times ahead:}

Ive got my popcorn ready for the show

So the COO is gone, replaced by an extremely interesting (semi) outsider, this should be fun :)

What about overall fleet size? With all of the changes is the fleet size going to increase or decrease?

Also, what about the future orders. Are they still coming?

And they want to compete with dah Big 3.

That's a joke, isn't it ?

It depends. If someone seriously beleives that new 330s are not coming, I'm damn seriouse:}

Its a joke ExDubai,

Welcome to the Rumor Network!

Romasik, u were just about to break my heart :D i've just started my training on the A330 after flying the B738 for 6 years :D kept begging those idiots to put me on the B777 but no one ever listened :D , now if they r gonna sell the A330's and no A330 R's are coming, so im literally ****** up :D and the same applies on the RUH base, if it happens, i'll pack my backpack and go back to my Beloved B738 :D

well, guys i really need your opinions, as i mentioned in my last post, i have been flying the B738 at Egyptair for almost 6 years, now i've just started my training in SV on the A330, i kept begging them to put me on the B777 and no one ever listened, as you may know the A330 Destinations are really bad ( unlike what i used to on the B738 ) as well as they dont make good money compared to the B777 . i really hate the transfer from the B738 to the A330, i do hate the country and can't deal with people here as well . im thinking to return to Egyptair my home airline, and i want you to tell me what do you think i shall do ? the salary in SV is the double of what i get at Egyptair . would you please give me an advice ?

At the end of the day it's your decision. From my point of view quality of life matters, if I'm not happy I would leave.

Why are they idiots for not putting you on the B777? Did you ever stop to consider that they didn't need additional expat crews on that fleet?

that' not what i've been told in the interview, even the initial contract they sent me on my email it said FO B777/A330 , when i arrived here i discovered that its the A330, kept begging for the B777 and all i got was a clear no WHILE i had colleagues from Egyptair who were with me on the same interview day, same arrival day, and they got the B777, and for your knowledge, im the only expat on the A330 who has got no Airbus experience, all FO's from Egyptair who flown the B738 are here on the B777 ( almost 50 sth ) Except me !

Come on! It was so obviously unrealistic that I never thought someone would take it at face value:)
You will not have good destinations on 330, but other than that it's going to be a good equipment: good money and no jet lags. If you make it through training. Good luck!
To make you feel better about company decision to put you on 330, I'll tell you that almost all of the initial 330 batch came from company 747. Despite of 10-20 years seniority. Company requirment. Period.
You still have complains with your zero ceniority and foreign 737 experience?

A330
 

From a very wise man:

Either u like it or u leave it.

Stop crying
 

First of all you are acting like a crying 5 year old " o little John got an ice cream I got a candy I want an ice cream as well " Then you are lying because by any means the Egyptian FOs on the 777 are 50. 50 in total are the expat FOs in 777 coming from UK Italy Spain Egypt Pakistan France India Tunis Malaysians etc etc. furthermore about your begging , this is their company they will do whatever they want. If you don't like it pack your bags,it's only 1.30 minutes flight to CAI. Can you imagine how many Saudis with greater experience than you are stuck in the 320? Or how many of them came down from the 747? Man I do admire your arrogance and your attitude.And as you admitted the contract you signed had a 777/330,which means any of them. The contract I signed had only 777 and they have told me from day one in the assessment that's gonna be 777. So basically you got two options. A) stop crying improve your attitude and keep studying or B) pack your things and go back to your beloved 738 in Egyptair with the rumor spreading around that you failed your training in Saudia. Enjoy

Spot on Alloha. Well said!

well, Alloha, i confess i may have sounded kinda emotional and unprofessional and that was because my mind was totally messed up, i know its their company and they do what they wish and i have nothing but to accept it or leave, thats why i was asking your opinions guys shall i leave or not, i asked for nothing else ! and once i arrived, asked for the 777 and been told a big NO , i didnt even mention it again since then ! so its not like iam a crying 5 years old for a candy or ice cream . anyway thank you for your opinion mate, oh and yes, my first FTD session was 2 days ago so i didn't get the chance to fail any exam and/or check YET :D
anyway i resigned yesterday because just like what guiones said, " Either u like it or u leave it. "

First of all i never said you gonna fail. I said that some rumors may be spread out will say "he failed". Good thing for you going back home. Its your choise. Keep in mind though that is not very professional having a company paying you for your training and you resigning on second day of FTD. There are other Egyptians who might will to join Saudia and imagine what damage you do to them. Anyway i couldnt care less. Fly safe

Alloha, sir i did not say that you said im gonna fail i understood what u were talking about :) , and about resigning on second day of FTD, i couldn't make that decision earlier, coz it would have been too early to judge, i honestly took the decision as soon as i could . i didn't mean anything by resigning at that stage . and they shouldn't judge on Egyptians because of a single act .
thanks for the care sir :) it has been nice talking and listening to your opinion .

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That's a bad hasty decision you took. A330 is a good fleet and they have started getting good layovers now. It's a wide body at the end of the day and it is a good job. After release you would get almost double of your basic. Which is too good . Besides in 330 your training would be faster. Not everyone gets to come this far. You could have completed one contact and went back home. There nothing wrong with the people are attitude here. You know their language that's an added advantage. You haven't see the worst,that's all I would say. I'm on 777 but I would still have taken the 330 if I had no option other than that.

Any ways good luck.