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redbaron60 16th December 2015 15:52

Saudia
 
Hi guys,
Would like to have an information. If successful at the screening test and offered a job what kind of benefits you'll get with the " package"? Any medical insurance? Will it be valid for spouse and sons as we'll? Coverage only in Saudi Arabia or also worldwide?
Thanks for any reply

ayman 16th December 2015 22:04

F/O Application
 
Hi Fellows,
i ve filled the electronuc form thru pilotcareercenter.com on Nov ,14th.

Dec,10 i received an email including an applicatiin form to fill n return.

Could this be sign for future screening call?

Thanks all

redbaron60 18th December 2015 12:32

Can anybody, please, answer my question!!!???

mutt 19th December 2015 15:09

Are you talking left seat or right seat? Assignment will be based on their needs at the time, for example if they hire anymore FO's, they will go to the A330.

Medical in Kingdom only.

redbaron60 19th December 2015 18:18

I' ll be checked as cpt.

alloha 19th December 2015 20:02

medical
 
Mutt medical do take place in EGYPT Air's clinic in Cairo as well. At least that was the case until July

mutt 20th December 2015 04:56


I' ll be checked as cpt.
Inshallah....

What position did you APPLY for?

redbaron60 20th December 2015 12:17

I am type rated on B737 NG and I applied for DEC and ticked off B747/777 and a320. But very, very little interested on the latter...

alloha 20th December 2015 15:41

wide body
 
@redbaron without experience on a wide body forget ,without any exemption, being hired on the WB fleet. Many crews from the 320 with ticket for the 787 now will have to wait as the airplanes will not arrive before March

VAMY 23rd December 2015 11:29

Adel, PM me and I'll try to give you the latest SP on the B777 package.

mutt 29th December 2015 07:56

Saudi Arabian Airlines launches 'Albayraq' VIP serviceTravel & Tourism - Zawya

New corporate scheduled operation between Jeddah and Riyadh using leased ACMI A319's

Kapitanleutnant 29th December 2015 11:16

Honest question here...

Have heard SV on the verge of huge order of jets. How will they pay for these just given the debt and current price of oil in the world. Should this be a concern?

Thx

Kap

polax52 29th December 2015 11:27

If the Oil price remains low for an extended period then it may have an impact on Saudia but Saudia is considered to be an important part of the development and diversification away from oil. It is therefore a long way down the list of government cut backs.

mutt 29th December 2015 13:17


How will they pay for these just given the debt and current price of oil in the world
Get the banks to finance them like every other airline :)

Airbus3181 29th December 2015 18:29

"New joiners who are type rated in SV types will not have to do the type rating again"


I'm currently flying the A340 and I suppose to join SV soon.

Could you tell me if Saudia could propose a CCQ 340/330 or if I have to do all A330 Training? What about the bond?

Thank you for your support,

mutt 30th December 2015 04:54

CCQ? Based on the fact that their own 340 qualified pilots are not allowed fly the 330, I would assume that you would have to do the whole course and have the associated bond.

They are talking about CCQ for the 320/330 for IP's, but its slow in coming.

despegue 1st January 2016 21:21

If you want to fly as DEC on widebody, based in Jeddah, another possibility is Air Atlanta Icelandic.

They currently have 17 aircraft flying for SV I think, all B744 ( cargo and pax.) except for one A332.

They might have a friendlier atmosphere and training too...

Saudia_Expat 2nd January 2016 11:59

We, the company, doesn't really care what type of aircraft your currently flying, only that your experience fits into certain groups. A330 is a group "D" aircraft at Saudia, along with the 747, 777, and 787. A340 would be considered group "D" experience, so it qualifies you. Regardless of the aircraft you're on now, the one you get trained on here may or may not be the same. A full course is required regardless, but without any bonds.

Saudia_Expat 2nd January 2016 12:04


Are you talking left seat or right seat? Assignment will be based on their needs at the time, for example if they hire anymore FO's, they will go to the A330.

Medical in Kingdom only.
There are two medicals required for new hires. The first is the pre-hire medical which can be done in several places (US, UK, KSA). The initial GACA medical must be done at Saudia Medical in Jeddah. GACA renewals can be done with anyone of a number private examiners.

Saudia_Expat 2nd January 2016 12:05


If you want to fly as DEC on widebody, based in Jeddah, another possibility is Air Atlanta Icelandic.

They currently have 17 aircraft flying for SV I think, all B744 ( cargo and pax.) except for one A332.

They might have a friendlier atmosphere and training too...
These will likely be short-lived positions, as rumours within are that Saudia wants to rid itself of the leased operators.

Saudia_Expat 2nd January 2016 12:08


Is the atmosphere in the right seat B777 really that bad?
No, generally is pretty good. Lots of hours and $$$'s. Better than a lot of places.

King on a Wing 2nd January 2016 13:26

Excellent Posts !!
 
@ Saudi Expat.

Very informative and generously excellent posts sir.
Keep up the good work and please keep this accurate information coming.
Cheers

mutt 2nd January 2016 14:48


These will likely be short-lived positions
After 20 years of operating for SVA, i thought that Air Atlanta was a subsidiary:)

They have at least 30 leased aircraft so it will take a few years to get rid of them if the desire exists!

alloha 2nd January 2016 16:20

Air Atlanta
 
In fact Air Atlanta costs Saudia less than its ownv fleet. Salaries of the crews are way much lower because are based on productivity and Air Atlanta's crews rarely fly more than 450h a year. On top of that make sure that those agreements between Air Atlanta and Saudia make some people happy.and i am not talking for Air Atlanta financial department :cool:

ac100 2nd January 2016 20:50

Commuting and Remuneration
 
Gentlemen,

Just wondering if you could confirm or dispel some rumours floating around. I have an assessment lined up in February for a widebody left seat position. it would be an attractive move if the following rumour were confirmed:

* Commuting rosters with a total of 11 days off in a row a month being provided.

Also, could someone actually confirm the remuneration in-hand every month with a regular block of flying. I have the sheet that is provided with the application but getting different numbers from different sources. The actual amount every month would be very helpful.

I would appreciate any information that you can provide on the company, remuneration and ability to commute would be very beneficial. Thank you in advanace for your replies.

Cheers,
AC100.

alloha 3rd January 2016 05:24

Ac100
 
@ac100

1) commuting roster with eleven days off? NOT A CHANCE! 5 days off per month is the max .

2) Honestly dont worry about your salary .Saudia is among the top payers in the industry. Easily u gonna make double from a skipper in EK

CAT3A 3rd January 2016 05:33

Alloa,

Thanks again for all the info......anybody can reveal the average monthly flight hours left seat B777.

Am sure it will be less than the 90+ of EK

alloha 3rd January 2016 06:42

Average hours
 
An average line has 72-75h per month plus 3-4 days of reserve. During the Offseason you may never get a flighy during reserve. During high season you ll get a line of 80h and you will fly during your reserve days so you can reach 90-95 even 100 hours. But 100h in saudia are heavily paid.

polax52 3rd January 2016 07:33

AC100- If you were to take 11 days in a row off in a month using medical or vacation then your net salary would be the basic which is 36,000 SAR, around $9,500.


Alloha- I think you're joking about Saudia skippers being paid better than EK, you're obviously not familiar with their full benefits and profit sharing package. EK skippers can make comfortably 90,000 SAR if you break down all the components of their contract. Unlike Saudia, that is not particularly fleet dependant. At Saudia, A330, 747 and now probably 787 guys are netting around 70% of what you can net on the 777. Going forward recruitment will be for the A330, I think that you have to be very lucky to come from the outside now and go onto the 777.

alloha 3rd January 2016 15:24

Profit sharing package is an extra 12% of EK contribution. Starting salary is a bit more than SV salary and they get overtime when they go above92H .there is no way to pocket more then 55K AED .they get a house we get a house. Not to mention the cost of living in DXB. I am well aware of their figures i have close friends and lots of them are looking for something else. Some EK skippers joined SV in the last year and the reason was salary.

ac100 3rd January 2016 16:57

Thank you
 
Gentlemen,

Thank you for all your input and information provided, it has been very useful. I would only be interested in the B777 and if all hiring is now on the A330 it would not be worthwhile attending at this stage.

Once again, thank you for all the information thus far.

Cheers,
AC100.

msian1147 6th January 2016 10:49

Does anybody know when will be the next B777 FO intake?

alloha 6th January 2016 12:45

777 FO Intake
 
not possible in the next 12-18 months. Only 2 frames to be delivered in 2016

argentina21 6th January 2016 16:36

How about A330 FO hiring?

Chocks Away 7th January 2016 15:04

Eleven 773's coming this year Alloha, all but one arriving from July onwards.
Positions on those all taken courtesy of MAS (their 777 fleet doing a David Copperfield from Feb!) and SV internal movements, so 777s vacancies not there now until much latter & all newbies onto Airbus as was previously mentioned above.
Ten 333 coming from August and four 32neos from Nov.
Two new sims inbound to the Academy courtesy of CAE (see Dubai Airshow releases), a 773 & 787...when the room is available :bored:
:ok: Happy Landings

fireball_23 8th January 2016 07:17

Some people are speaking about a meeting ( yesterday or the day before ) regarding the commuting. I haven't heard or received any emails. Is it a fantasy ? ( again haha )

mutt 8th January 2016 07:55


Eleven 773's coming this year Alloha
Where are they coming from? AK30 is the last one shown on the Boeing site.

alloha 9th January 2016 08:16

RUH base
 
@fireball 23. Yeap the meeting took place in RUH but hold your horses. 20-10 is not an option at the moment and there is nit a chance for setting this base before next year at least. No accommodation so far. Basically it was an exchange of opinions etc etc. Big disappointment for lots of expats. Not even a 22-8 is an option.normal lines as per JED based FDC

@mutt i got the same question with you but i show the email with the delivery dates and the registration numbers. All of them to be delivered within the next 14 months.

fireball_23 10th January 2016 08:09

Thank you for the informations Alloha ! :ok:

argentina21 18th January 2016 02:23

E-170s extended?
 
I heard from a reliable source that the E-170s are being extended. Does anyone know for how long?


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