Some interesting rumors about this, I don't think that it will be staying in the mainline.

Gaca Atpl
 

Hey,

As a joining F/O on 777 with a ICAO atpl, what is the latest scenario with the licensing in Sauida currently. Will i be flying on a Cpl or they will give me direct conversion to the Gaca Atpl without any exams?

Regards

Regarding the B748: it is a special case because the Royal Flight will introduce 2 B748 intercontinental's. Saudia normally operate a fleet of similar aircraft outside of the Royal fleet for the purposes of keeping crews current, maintenance current, spare parts etc available. Let's see what happens, it does seem to be an aircraft which has presented the company with very major technical problems though.

Aloha and polax52 sent you both PM, Mutt thanks for your response.

Upcoming interview schedule?
 

Does anyone know what the schedule is for upcoming interviews/assessments? How many times per month?

Thanks.

What are the travel perks for family/relatives/friends? Is there any skyteam perks ?

For long term employees the travel concessions are excellent, but for family members you get 1 confirmed ticket home to domicile plus 1 standby ticket to nearest SVA station.

Crew also get 1 ticket per month.

Thats it, nothing for parents, nothing for friends.

Mutt, also the SED tickets for family which I use often.

Guiones

Yeah nothing for family. For parents ID50 tickets and nothing else.
Just confirmed with HR.

If this is correct, then you are getting lower benefits than the rest of the employees.

Hi everybody.
what about travel benefits for spouse and kids?
do they travel on business or economy?
thanks.

On SV, as mutt mentioned - only for you and eligible dependends (spouse and kids in KSA) one yearly free confirmed domicile (to the nearest SV station on SV and the remaining segment on other airlines), and one free standby to any SV station. Free means you pay airport taxes.
On the other hand, for you and your eligible relatives (spouse, kids under 24, parents) after six months of service you have unlimited ZED travels on other airlines (not on SV though) worldwide via myidtravel according to agreements.

From which Air France has disappeared from as of today!!! What happened to SKYTEAM?

I've noticed too. Wondering if this is single AF issue or SV-AF issue...

I also found that AF domestic/European flights marketed as EY codeshare, and not SV codeshare anymore.

Hi, North Beduin ,
If I understood it correctly, my family would have one free SBy ticket on SV network per year and after that can we purchase further sby tickets on SV or that's it?

You can buy confirmed ID50 and standby ID75 on SV depending on your seniority.
But this discount (50% or 75%) is calculated from high fares which makes the price you pay very unattractive when comparing with ZED on other airlines.

Lorbak,

You, Spouse, Kids,

= 1 free positive space ticket home per year in First (capt), In business (FO).
+ 1 space available economy on SVA
+ Zed fare (space available) Unlimited
+ ID50 (positive) and ID75 (space available) on SVA, Unlimited

You only,

= 1 ticket per month positive space. Economy, but upgradable.


Any remaining family, parents, parents inlaw, siblings, friends, pets, etc

= ZERO

Thanks much now is much more clear

Still available through a CPO. Looks like a technical issue:ooh:

Yep, they say that it will return soon :)

Is saudia hiring capts and FO for 787?

Historically they will only do transition training for new aircraft, so that rules out new-hires. This will most likely be crewed from E170/320 crew as there are only 8 of them.

Plus there is the "new toy" element :)

777 cockpit CRM
 

Any information on how is the cockpit atmosphere in SV? How are the 777 skippers to fly with? Are they to hard on the FO or accommodating?

Apparently no EMB/320 crew for the 787 sorry Mutt as a few of us have heard GACA have stated that wide body experienced crew are req'd for this "new type" (from internal 747 / 777 / 330 fleets). Who knows how it will roll though. Definitely alot more than 8 coming now too.
It's a pity they don't recognise the Boeing "STAR" transition from 777 or other Boeing glass types, as many of us already have 777/787 on an ATPL. Shortened transition courses much like the 320 / 330 elsewhere.

Happy Landings:ok:

Chocks, your statement is not true. Already some of Embraer Captains have done their 787 training, and most of E170 IPs and F/Os are starting their 787 training from next month. Saudia is expanding its fleet and routes, and Saudia has no issue of marketing. Its the right time to join Saudia. One thing for sure Saudi's are good professionals and discipline Pilots.

Pm
 

I have answered in many PMs. Most of them in detailed. But some guys keep sending so stupid questions that really makes me wonder whether they are professional pilots or just private license holders and wannabes professional pilots. Guys there is no aviation paradise.or at least nothing will be like your home flag carrier if it happens to have one. Saudia and not only Saudi but other airlines in the ME are far away from a walk in the park. You have to work hard for your salary. And in some few or even more cases you will have to deal with wrong attitude improper behaviour etc. If you think that you are the Cinderella of the skies do yourself a favour. Stay where you are. For your own shake. I do apologise for the aggressive attitude but sometimes patience has its limits

Think that I got the same PM's... also asked the person if they were a pilot as they didn't understand the concept of LOFT. People like that who are extremely sensitive are advised to stay away from Saudia.

Copied that RAK :ok:
Well there you go... so much talk and rumours in the air but that's what's happening... I won't even start with the new destinations we're hearing of :}

Happy Landings:ok:

Guys, I applied a couple of months ago to Saudia, sending the application form they sent me plus all the required copies of license and medical back to them and I have not heard anything back from them so far.
Is it usually like this? Should I relax and accept the fact they are just slow to reply or is it because they are not calling any more for interviews?
Any tips? Maybe a name who to directly contact in order to ask my status?
Thanks!
happy landings:ok:

It's upto an individual to make the best of any airline. There will be negative side as well as positives.

If you're qualified then I'm sure you'll get a reply.

The problem happening both on pprune and for the HR department is that they and we are inundated with speculative applications from people who are not qualified. The HR department has no power on who to select, the qualifications for direct entry foreign Pilots are laid down in law by GACA.

Need Advice on Interview Ticket Purchase
 

Hey Gang I'm not sure I understand what SV wants in regards to Ticket price approval.I'm scheduled for an assesment on Sept14th. I want to purchase my Ticket Sept5th. online.Given the fact that the price may vary I added a cushion to my proposal.I don't wanna wait to long to purchase the ticket as the fare will increase yet I want to ensure getting the money returned I allocated for the ticket purchase. Anybody got a fool proof way or info you can share??? Thx V.

Ask them to pay for the ticket, you might be able to convince them!

You should send them the link with the flight details / price. They will tell you how much they cover. Good look with you assessment :)

Max they would cover up to 800 usd

From where? fares are obviously different from Mumbai versus from the USA, so they can't be sticking to a single figure.

Gentlemen... and maybe ladies.. I heard through the sand dunes that Saudia is going to offer a commuting contract with 20 on 10 off with 30 days vacation for crews accepting domiciles in RUH and DMM. I'm currently at Flynas on a 20/10 contract... Lot of guys here talking about this in the past few days. Really interested as it would help my commute from the US! Any news on your end?

20/10
 

red sox , indeed SV has released a survey about the 20/10. And only for RUH. Very slim chances according to senior captains. It will take lot of time and effort.and if i m not mistaken it has happened in the past as well. There are people who left Saudia for NAS and the 20/10. So basically is a bate for the 320 crews. Although more than 55% of SV flights in the 320 depart from RUH (and almost 50% of the 777) .Also it will allow SV for better utilisation of the 777 crews as many of them deadhead on the previous day of the LR or the ULR flight from RUH so they have to do (sometimes)if the return flight happens to land in RUH. The cost of the hotel is not an issue for SV
Also most locals would love to move to RUH so if the priority will be based on seniority nothing will hapen for the expats.
So keep your horses. It will be ideal for me as well but miracles do not happen and even if the would ,it will take many years

Alloha, thanks for the info. I figured most expats there would love that situation. Also I understand probably lots of locals would like to be based in RUH. But wouldn't they just open a base there with the same contract.. what is the point of offering 20/10?