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mamamia 23rd May 2013 18:06

Captain A320
 
Hi Is Saudi Reqruiting captains a320 and how to apply is it direct Reqruiting or through agency

rdr 24th May 2013 08:21

all agencies are pushing similar contracts as this is a direct hire with SV and a one time fee

[email protected]

mamamia 16th June 2013 11:32

Re
 
which airplane is saudi airline reqriuting

Leboeuf 20th June 2013 11:05

A320 type rated

igig 20th June 2013 15:22

Saudia
 
Are you sure? I thought last A320 assessments were in May. Most agencies now only listing B777.

yellow cab 22nd June 2013 07:05

Hi all

Can you shed some infos pls on the T777 interview
Like which database SV uses for the tech questions and how's the SIM assessment ?!
The pattern , time window and venue OR any other infos ..

Thanx a lot guys and all the best

sandagain 13th September 2013 16:08

Saudia
 
Hi Folks,
Any information to share about Saudia Airlines, living in Jedda, working enviroment, etc.?
Any one with some kind of living experience in SA, Is this a place to go with family????
TXS,

Romasik 14th September 2013 06:22

http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/354625-saudia.html

and few more on "Saudia" search request:)

sandagain 15th September 2013 13:28

Txs Romasik
A lot of old comments, few actual ones, mostly regarding Saudia.
I am looking for updated opinions about live in Jeddah, family wise.
Any one living with family there?
Sandagain

sandagain 15th September 2013 17:35

ExAMM757Captain
Looks like you are living there. I am trying to get information about SV and QR and also about Doha and Jeddah. If you really are there and know about ME I will really appreciate your opinion regarding these two options that I have right now.
No other option at the moment and yes I need some money, mortgage is killing me.
Txs,
Sandagain

Romasik 15th September 2013 21:34

I live in KSA with family. My son was born here, now 12. We are happy here. Well, of course happeness is a very relative notion. First, it depends what place you compare with this place. Then, what is your personal situation. You won't leave Lufthanza for Saudia. But you will come at short notice if you don't have any perspective for job at all. All the rest is in between.
I came when I was desperate and the first three years I would start reading Flight International from the last page (jobs). I couldn't beleive I would stay forever. Now it's 14 years and I don't want to start all over again.
Majority of long staying expats here have been through the same development. And after 10 years almost everybody stays until retirement. You have better benefits and growing final exit money.
Of course aircraft type is important. A320 is terrible, although they are making good money. 777 and 747 are the best. 330 is getting better with new aircraft and destinations. It depends...
There is fear that with new duty and rest regulations they will have to eat into 5 consecutive days off. This will make huge difference if happens.
Regarding lifestyle, it's all up to you. If you want, you'll have everything. Family wise - also depends on family. Mine is fine.

sandagain 16th September 2013 03:54

Qatar vs Saudia
 
Txs exAMM757Captain
I am waiting for your PM
As soon as I get it I will reply you.
Cheers
Sandagain

sandagain 16th September 2013 19:08

Txs Ronasik for this helpful information. I am gathering all opinions and will take the best decision once I go to Jeddah for sim and medical evaluation. Since you've already settled down in KSA I wish you all the best.
Cheers
Sandagain

fr8dawg 18th September 2013 11:07

saudi initial screening
 
hello there!

sending this generic request about saudi's psych-eval, aka weeding out the weak, and medical eval.

anybody with some specific info please do share,

thanks

jumbocpt 19th September 2013 02:23

hi Mutt
 
I couldnt agree more! I came for just two years to save money and return to the "land of round doorknobs" but the cycles in the economy were not favorable and even though I interviewed with US carriers, that pipeline didnt open up favorably so I found myself in Saudia until retirement.
Good luck and have fun.

[email protected]

Leboeuf 26th September 2013 22:13

Any chances to have a fleet transition from the A320 one day ?

777AV8R 27th September 2013 04:50

I left....
 
I immediately resigned after my family was kidnapped. I was conducting a flight check to LHR. When I got back, I found my wife cowering in our villa. I tendered my resignation immediately and left.

Nuf said...its a horrid place.

Leboeuf 27th September 2013 06:09

What happened ?

Romasik 27th September 2013 08:27

Lebouef:

It's highly improbable, at least in foreseeable future. Saudia would rather hire from outside than promote expats within its ranks. The only case you may be upgraded is equipment phase out.
Things may change with local pilots upgrade policy change or management change. But for now it's like this.

Regarding kidnapping, it's something weird. I have never heard about it. First, there are no details at all. Second, it may happen in any country. Don't take it at face value.

mutt 27th September 2013 09:38

777AV8R will wake up in the morning and delete that post.

Romasik, the highest expat F/O's hold seniority numbers around 1050, they are about 60 numbers from the numbers getting upgraded now, so it will be interesting to see if they are offered A330 F/O to E170 Captain positions next year.

As for an expat A320 new hire captain, he will come in at seniority #1600+, so theres a lot of people ahead of him looking for the bigger aircraft.

Mutt

777AV8R 27th September 2013 10:08

Delete...
 
Mutt:
Not likely. And furthermore; you used to ride with me to LHR. The kidnapping was the reason I left.

mutt 27th September 2013 10:39


you used to ride with me to LHR
True, so we know each other. But in all my years here i have never heard of any family getting kidnapped, daughters going away with the boyfriends etc, but no kidnappings.

Mutt

sandagain 27th September 2013 16:27

Inside view
 
Hi Mutt:

Could you please give us your point of view regarding ME aviation.
Gods and Bads, lifestyle, commuting option, Differences between Gulf carriers.
Pros and Cons, EK, EY; SA, QR.
Do you have friends on those ones.?
:ok:
TXS

metro301 28th September 2013 16:55

So the family was kidnapped, but your wife was still in the villa cowering?? Who was actually taken? I have been here for almost 8 years and never heard of such a thing.

I find it hard to believe that an event of such magnitude would not make it through the rumor systems of SVA city and the embassies.

Romasik 28th September 2013 21:18

Mutt:

I was talking about captains transition from narrowbody to wide. Over the last 15 years it only happened to expats with equipment phase out. And sometimes it was reverse movement - from A300 to Embraer.
Regardings FOs upgrade it's another story. They failed 5 out of 7 senior 747 FOs on captain upgrade. FOs play in different league :(

777-X 9th November 2013 09:08

Joining Saudia
 
Can anyone say what the joining procedure is for new hires - when can your family come to Saudi, and how long does it take before you can get an exit permit?

Thanks

777-X

mutt 9th November 2013 11:45

Roughly..... sign contract with HR and get sent to medical for Igama medical etc, your Igama will be ready in a few days, then you can apply for family visa, make sure that you ADD all family members during HR paperwork.
Visas are done in a few days and will be available in whatever embassy you stipulated, so theoretically family can join you within the first month. BUT do you want them to do that??? The answer is NO. Finish your training first then bring them, school year starts Sep so no need to bring them until then, not to mention that you may be bonded so school fees will be a nightmare.

There are some days off during ground school, you might be able to get home, but because your predecessors took advantage of this, many training managers are loath to allow people leave.

Enjoy

777-X 10th November 2013 08:05

Thanks for that Mutt.

What about converting from a JAA/EASA licence to the FAA licence, can you shed any light on that?

mutt 10th November 2013 18:48

Why FAA?? You will be required to do the GACA exams for the issue of a Saudi license, they stopped issuing validations based on the FAA.

777-X 11th November 2013 16:47

OK, how does that go?

Romasik 11th November 2013 19:25

You need an ICAO license to start with. In Jeddah you will do a written test, which is actually FAA written test (GACA regulations is a copy of FAR) and medical. You will be given some time and provided with facilities for test preparation. After the type training you do GACA oral and SIM check ride, after which you get GACA license.

777-X 12th November 2013 07:02

OK, thanks Romasik.

yako 17th November 2013 20:30

Hello Mutt

I heard Saudia planned to phase out the Embraer next june.
Is this confirmed or just rumours ?

yellow cab 23rd November 2013 10:22

B777
 
Hi mates
Any updates on 777 captain recent hiring or / screening
Thx

scubabri 5th December 2013 22:16

I understand that there is hiring into the B742 and MD11

I was furloughed at Evergreen Airlines after completing IOE in the -200. I have an SIC type and only 47 hours in the aircraft.

My times are 4300 total, 2000 ME, 2000 Turbine, 3500 pic.

Only the 47 hours in the 747 were with a 121 carrier, the vast majority of my time is 135 and then some 91.

Do I have a chance?

mutt 6th December 2013 03:56


B742 and MD11
I would be very surprised if they are hiring for the B742 as they only have one left. They were hiring Left Seat B744.


D 2,500 hours of which
1,000 hours Jet time on
Group C Aircraft or heavier. (160,000 kgs +)
2,500 hours of which
2,000 hours Jet time on Group (50,000-159,999kgs)
B Aircraft, OR
1,500 hours Jet time on Group
C Aircraft, OR
1,000 hours Jet time on Group
D Aircraft.
The MD11 it is considered Group D, so it would depend on how your hours break down.

Mutt

scubabri 6th December 2013 15:29

1000 hours in lears... so I guess not.

koenig 218 9th December 2013 18:19

re-SAUDIA
 
Any guys been called for interviews in Athens yet for Captains or FO's?Would be happy to find out what we have to learn for the interview?If someone can help would be appreciated!

Alsp 11th December 2013 03:15

Gleim, Asa

mickey11 16th December 2013 19:13

Is anybody invited for the upcoming selection in Athens, FO's NTR (B777) with Boeing 737 experience?


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