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desert_dog 25th Oct 2020 05:47

Is hard to believe the crews are not following the RETI procedure. I would call it :mad:. What I observed every single crew is trying to follow SOP at least for few seconds before docking if not other way possible. If the company has a problem with numbers firstly ask state-of-the-air IT department how databases are connected…. I do understand the number for management is kind of problem, but company should ask how they get the number at first place if number provided is realistic or just generated from in-house-made IT system. I have never seen ignoring single engine taxi in for no reason, never!

Plus I completely agree that email was arrogant and far beyond how to communicate with people in 5 star company. And shortly after… the management approved breast cancer show-off 787 flight in time when nobody cares about breast cancer, waste tons of fuel for no reason. Great motivation to continue with single engine taxi in order to safe few kilograms of fuel…

mmorel 25th Oct 2020 09:28

I always followed the SOP and used SE taxi after landing but yer My contract got terminated. I think they are just making excuse to terminate more flight crew contrast. Typical middle east attitude. The problem is they have money and there are always people who want to make more money and join Qatar Airways. The reality is money is everything.

Capn Rex Havoc 25th Oct 2020 09:32

~Great PR for Qatar

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...found/12811716

5star 25th Oct 2020 16:20

O.M.G. what a bunch of clowns......
you can’t make this up, can you....
well that sums it up nicely isn’ it? That alone did more damage than 1000 posts on prune....
:ugh:


Bigaircolibri 26th Oct 2020 07:16

Nothing about it in the local news, they keep it quiet, nothing happened.

Skyfl410 26th Oct 2020 09:57

Unfortunately, More of my friends have been made redundant. Two on A320 and one on A330. There were other 15 pilots with them...

Skyfl410 26th Oct 2020 10:02

Capn Rex Havoc

This is crazy! Happy not to be part of them anymore... they are really embarrassing.

Flyboysg 26th Oct 2020 12:45

Well they can't hide.. it's in the news everywhere 😂

Just a few...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-search-ordeal
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/w...arch-baby.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54682565
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ralia-13372932

Pauleg120 26th Oct 2020 13:58

More than embarrassing
 
Gross. Very qatar style. I hope those Aussie women take legal actions again them. Poor women

FlyingAce77 26th Oct 2020 15:16

It’s beyond Embarrassing..
HIA statement is just like ignoring that Strip Search happened without Consent” which actually was the case, What I’m curious about is, How did authorities made a decision to only delay SYD bound flight?
were other flights in the same slot were delayed as well?
non the less Twitter is a Buzz & QAtar PR is losing it.

airbourne 27th Oct 2020 07:40

Any word on when the 330 fleet is being retired? All pax aircraft grounded, but 4 freighters still flying. What is to become of the 330 drivers?

vobotex 27th Oct 2020 09:30


Originally Posted by Bigaircolibri (Post 10911865)
Nothing about it in the local news, they keep it quiet, nothing happened.

Maybe you should check before posting:just to name few...

Bigaircolibri 27th Oct 2020 10:41

Brother,
Maybe you should shake yourself before posting....
Check dates and times of your references, and check what date and time I posted my message...
So think twice before posting!

FlyingAce77 27th Oct 2020 13:03


Qatar Airways faces an effective grounding of its planes in Sydney as workers consider striking over the treatment earlier this month of some female Australian passengers in Doha
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a....co/Y9COAcUqfT

Skyfl410 27th Oct 2020 19:26

Like always they will get away with it..

FlyingAce77 28th Oct 2020 03:31


Payne said 18 Australian women on the October 2 flight to Sydney were affected, along with “other foreign nationals”. The AFP news agency reported one French woman on the flight was among them.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...ined-australia

BOEMBUS 28th Oct 2020 07:03

Aussies
 

Originally Posted by Skyfl410 (Post 10913001)
Like always they will get away with it..


Just like the Aussies do every day in regards to the indigenous people of that continent.

So, let's not cry over a search done by airport authorities.

Do you see people complain about how they are treated on arrival in the States or UK?

No. Because it's accepted as the norm.

Live and let live..

Xaxa 28th Oct 2020 07:20

I wonder if you would be saying the same thing if someone decided to have your wife and daughter stripped and gave them a quick preflight gynaecological examination.

Fonse1977 28th Oct 2020 07:34

Mmorel
You talk this way because you were fired, weren’t you!
Don’t take it back with other pilots, it is unfair...you are an embarrassment...you wished you had a job with QR!
Get a job (if you can), grow up and move forward my friend

Fired600 28th Oct 2020 07:43

Not sure the last time I heard of that in the States or U.K......... I think there would be more than a few complaints if there were pre boarding gynaecological examinations for females of child bearing age in the States or UK

edi_local 28th Oct 2020 08:26

Aside from the fact that there are numerous stories out there about abuse from UK Border Force or USCBP, they simply wouldn't carry out anything like this violation. The closest you would get would be inspections for drug smuggling, but it would not be done at random. There would have to be grounds for suspicion and other factors, such as the women already having drugs in her possession. Even in that situation she would have the right to privacy and legal protection from abuse too. Clearly No such things in Doha.

Surely it would have been better to check CCTV, ask crew and staff to be on the look out for distressed, unwell women who are struggling to walk, as one might expect after giving birth prematurely in an airport bathroom. It's completely unfathomable why the authorities decided to go straight to examining what now appears to be dozens of innocent women in the most intrusive way possible. At the end of the day the woman has now left Qatar and is very unlikely to be found, we don't know the circumstances which led to her leaving a baby in the bathroom bins, but if she thought it was her best option then the alternative must have been truly horrific.

What has happened in Doha is clearly a totally indefensible situation and one which now appears to be growing legs and rightly so. I hope each and every woman involved comes forward and the Qatari government (note I don't necessarily blame QR as I doubt they had much say in it) are made to compensate.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/world...hnk/index.html

Skyfl410 28th Oct 2020 09:02

BOEMBUS

Would like to see your reaction if the same thing happened to your wife or daughter. Normal countries like the UK and US don't allow this kind of medieval behaviour. You are out of your mind

GDAJB 28th Oct 2020 10:30

Awful! But what does this have to do with salary reductions and redundancies? Isn’t it worth its own thread?

Bigaircolibri 28th Oct 2020 10:35

It shows how the company is led, exactly the same way.
So imagine what QR can do against their staff, crew members, Captains.
What a disgrace...

FlyingAce77 28th Oct 2020 14:30

Remember the case of the Drunk CC found outside Her accommodation? How an internal email with her picture was sent by the VP? How she was humiliated? But this story is gaining momentum now, These were “State Authorities “ who took this action hence a “State Policy” to be considered.

airbourne 28th Oct 2020 20:22

There is a separate thread for that. Perhaps you could direct your thoughts there.

Back to the devastating state of play for all QR boys & girls.

I have heard about 100 A330 crew gone this week.

FlyingAce77 29th Oct 2020 02:14

Since couple of days CC are getting calls who are active flying in Doha to visit Tower 2, & are being made redundant...
not surprised A330 Crew is part of it since there are surplus Deck Crew & all Pax A330 are grounded apart from 4 A330 Freighters..
Sad days!

Count von Altibar 29th Oct 2020 14:24

Sounds ominous then for the A330 pilots, hopefully they'll switch them to A350 use this quiet time to do conversion courses.

Aviateur86 30th Oct 2020 13:24

qatar
 
I've heard that the VP flight ops was removed from his office and sent back to his basic line captain position, is that true ? I guess they used him to take care of that dirty whatsapp job then replaced him with someone else.

Bigaircolibri 30th Oct 2020 17:26

"Zavatta" is just an asshole, the CFOO muppet, with absolut no consideration to pilots and Captains, he made his path thru only by playing its dirty game. That guy remind me the famous ex VPFO

Fonse1977 30th Oct 2020 18:12

Heard he had a fight with the local boss J in flt ops because of the reti but managed to give the job to his best Ek friend....the maltese who might take over soon..and he will be back..back to the future...all Ek a$..le...May God help us all

FlyingAce77 31st Oct 2020 04:40

This is Standard QR Policy, Get the dirty work done & then Let go of the employee!

Aviateur86 1st Nov 2020 11:16

More redundancies this week, 320, 330 and 787 guys with roster changed to TBN, very sad indeed, in the 380 fleet they only kept the few slaimy xxxlickrs that were orbiting in the office every day, no surprise.
No news concerning the ex vp flt ops and the pilots he protected and facilitated so far, they managed to escape the redundancy process thanks to him, rumors are that he resigned (or was asked to resign qr style)

777kicker 1st Nov 2020 12:58

Clean up
 
Good to know the Sicilian hitman got the shaft. They made him do the dirty work, as usual, then dumped him. Waiting now to see all his protégées go down the drain with him.

Count von Altibar 1st Nov 2020 13:51

This whole thing sounds vile, it doesn't cost anything to be more humane when carrying out redundancies.

Yousef1989 1st Nov 2020 18:13

MMOREL

If you lost your job don’t take it back with colleagues who are a bit luckier than you..redundancies are not over and we are all stressed!
Don’t pretend and don’t embarass yourself! You wished you had a job in QR!
Get a job (if you can) and move forward!

Yousef1989 1st Nov 2020 18:24


Originally Posted by expat.pilot (Post 10905030)
Same Habibi has confirmed those blocked outside Qatar and just called to come back to Doha will be made redundant... Guys, get ready...

What about trainers redundancies?
Any update, the feedback from training management is that trainers will not be affected unless the fleet is not utilized at all

fatbus 2nd Nov 2020 14:30

Lol. The mafia ( not Italian) are shaking in their boots because of the new VPFO, house cleaning to follow .

Aviateur86 2nd Nov 2020 19:57

The management already knows everything, a more specific letter with details will be sent shortly to the big boss and possibly via the 'snitch channel' whistleblower internal email, just wait and see. I still work here and I can't afford to lose this job, someone else will do it. Great pilots have been sent home instead of others, that is completely unfair, I know them personally, what a shame.

FlyingAce77 3rd Nov 2020 04:53


Originally Posted by Yousef1989 (Post 10916755)
What about trainers redundancies?
Any update, the feedback from training management is that trainers will not be affected unless the fleet is not utilized at all

No one is immune” I have heard a review will happen every 2 months to see if to increase the frequency or reduce this will decide if more redundancies to follow.. But More tough times ahead that includes more salary reduction .. 😖


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